What if the 2024 ‘Whispers’ Are Right?

Queen of Chaos: Her record, and her own words, show us exactly what we can expect from a Hillary Clinton presidency, write Jeremy Kuzmarov and Steve Brown.

Hillary Clinton at a campaign rally in Phoenix, March 2016. (Gage Skidmore, Flickr, CC BY-SA 2.0)

By Jeremy Kuzmarov and Steve Brown
Special to Consortium News

On March 8, U.S. News & World Report ran a story titled “Hillary Clinton Says No to 2024 Presidential Bid.” But do not be misled by the “No.” The article was simply a shot across the public’s bow — a wake-up call intended to insert the idea into everyone’s mind of Hillary running.

Her “No” seems nothing more than the classic — and expected — response that politicians always make to the media when they are testing the waters.

Certainly it was not the kind of definitive cement wall “No” delivered by Civil War hero General William Tecumseh Sherman during the election campaign of 1884. When his name was floated as a possible candidate, he famously told the press, “I will not accept if nominated and will not serve if elected.”

Hillary’s “No” was nowhere near that emphatic, and became less and less so each time she repeated it to the media. For example, on June 19, Hillary told Business Insider (and Financial TimesParade and others) that a 2024 presidential campaign was “out of the question…[because it] would be ‘very disruptive’ to challenge [Biden].”

And there it was — her escape hatch.

The reason she was not going to run was—she wouldn’t run against Biden. Which was the same reason given by all the likely Democratic candidates for not running in 2024. As People Magazine sarcastically noted,

“Many Democratic hopefuls…such as Vice President Harris, Sec. Hillary Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders and Sen. Elizabeth Warren — have used Biden’s plans to run again as a reason for staying out of the 2024 election, creating leeway for them to change their mind if Biden decides to sit the next cycle out.”

And Biden may indeed sit the next cycle out.

Given his plummeting poll numbers, it is very possible that, sometime in 2023, Biden may suddenly discover that “I need to spend more time with my family.” Or he may resign “due to continuing health complications from Covid-19,” which he recently contracted not once but three times in a row.

Then, too, there is the negative pressure within his own party. Politico reports that progressives are already pressing Biden not to run in 2024. And according to CNBC, “Most Democrats want someone other than Biden to run for president in 2024.” And New York Magazine says, “A new poll shows two-thirds of Democrats want someone other than Joe Biden to be their 2024 presidential nominee.”

So if Biden does step aside — who better to run against Trump in 2024 (if he wins the nomination) than the candidate who beat him by 3 million votes in 2016?

Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton during presidential campaign of 2016. (Gage Skidmore/Wikimedia Commons)

Which is exactly why the Hillary propaganda campaign has started planting stories suggesting that a popular groundswell for Hillary was starting to build. A June 28 story from CNN reported that “The whispers of Hillary Clinton 2024 have started.”

Are the “whispers” real? It doesn’t matter. Saying they are is good enough. It doesn’t matter that the whispers may be only craftily constructed floaters leaked to compliant corporate media by well-placed political operatives and PR consultants. Their purpose is to take the public temperature and position the candidate for the next step, which is to escalate the mythical “groundswell of support.”

Accordingly, in July, stories began abandoning the coy suggestion that there were only “whispers” of interest in a Hillary candidacy. Instead, they trumpeted confident predictions that Hillary could definitely win in 2024.

For example, Newsweek upped the ante on July 6, with an article titled “Hillary Clinton Is Best Bet for Democrats in 2024.” The Hill topped that with a piece titled, “Now more than ever, Democrats need Hillary Clinton.”   

We might dismiss the above attempts to promote a Hillary candidacy in 2024 as a delusion taken seriously only by segments of the Democratic Party elite (and their captive media echo chambers) who listen only to themselves and are disconnected from reality.

But what if they are right?

What if Hillary does win the Democratic Party nomination in 2024, and then goes on to become president of the United States? Aside from the not inconsiderable blessing of being spared the buffoonery, egotism, arrogance, racism and overweening ignorance of former President Donald Trump, would the country be any better off with Hillary?

We don’t have to guess. Her record, and her own words, show us exactly what we can expect from a Hillary presidency.

Bill’s Behind-the-Scenes Partner

President Bill Clinton, First Lady Hillary Clinton and daughter Chelsea parade down Pennsylvania Avenue on Inauguration Day, Jan. 20, 1997. (White House)

As a powerful behind-the-scenes partner in Bill Clinton’s presidency, she bears significant responsibility for his policy of triangulation, which critically severed the Democratic Party from its long relationship with working-class Americans, pushing it further to the right and permanently cementing Wall Street’s dominance over both major political parties.

In his 2004 memoir, Bill Clinton bragged about cutting more than 100,000 public-sector jobs in his first term and scrapping 16,000 pages of federal regulations. At an economic policy meeting, Clinton stated:

“I hope you’re all aware we’re all Eisenhower Republicans. We’re Eisenhower Republicans and we are fighting the Reagan Republicans. We stand for lower deficits and free trade and the bond market. Isn’t that great.”

Clinton actually passed laws that former President Dwight Eisenhower himself could never have had passed, most notably sweeping cuts to the welfare system and banking deregulation, which undermined core tenets of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s New Deal. Clinton’s other signature legislation was a sweeping crime bill — the domestic equivalent of the Iraq War for Democrats — which bolstered funding for the police and prison construction and advanced tougher sentencing guidelines for drug offenders.

The White House became under Clinton “like a subway: you have to put in coins to open the gate,” to quote Taiwanese-born lobbyist Johnny Chung, who was convicted of funneling money to Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign in violation of campaign finance laws.

After the Republican Party gained control of the House of Representatives in January 1995, in an effort to appease opposition on his political right, Clinton increased military spending more than the Pentagon had requested, and in the fiscal year 2000, he sought an increase of $4 billion and $100 billion over the next six years. By the end of Clinton’s first term, he had already ordered U.S. troops into 25 separate military operations, compared to 17 in Reagan’s two terms.

Appointing a future C.I.A. director, Leon Panetta, as his chief of staff, Clinton at the same time expanded America’s covert empire of overseas surveillance outposts and spying and increased the budget for secret intelligence spending and the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), a C.I.A. offshoot which promoted regime change in foreign nations.

The U.S. zone of military hegemony was expanded into Eastern Europe through the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and into the formerly neutral Yugoslavia with the disintegration of the Soviet Union and U.S. bombing in support of secessionist movements there.

Clinton further deepened U.S. involvement in the Middle East and Africa, where his administration a) bombed a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan under false pretexts, depriving people of vital medicines; and b) covertly armed Rwanda and Uganda as they invaded and plundered the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), causing millions of deaths.

Peter Krogh, the dean of Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service, said in 1999 that the Clinton administration promoted a “foreign policy of sermons and sanctimony accompanied by the brandishing of tomahawks.”(8)

Madame Secretary –a Chip off the Old Block

Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta talks with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton at NATO Headquarters in Brussels, April 18, 2012. DOD photo by Erin A. Kirk-Cuomo

Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta with Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton at NATO Headquarters in Brussels, April 18, 2012. (DOD photo by Erin A. Kirk-Cuomo )

This above assessment is equally appropriate for Hillary Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

Hillary burnished her public image by championing women’s issues and helping to provide microfinance loans in Third World countries while purporting to stand for human rights — mainly in countries the U.S. targeted for regime change.

According to a 2016 profile by Mark Landler in The New York Times Magazine, aptly entitled “How Hillary Became a Hawk,” Hillary as secretary of state tried to pressure President Barack Obama to a) increase the U.S. troops presence in Afghanistan even more than under his “surge policy”; b) sustain a U.S. troop presence in Iraq; c) funnel more arms to anti-government rebels in Syria; d) dispatch a U.S. aircraft carrier in waters between North Korea and China as a show of U.S. force; and e) reject any symbolic concessions to Russia as a gesture of goodwill in resetting the relationship, the latter position earning her the respect of Cold War hardliner Robert Gates (defense secretary 2006-2011).

After Libya’s long-time leader, Muammar Qaddafi, was lynched following a U.S.-NATO bombing campaign — which she oversaw — Hillary jubilantly told a reporter, “We came, we saw, he died,” a twisted play on the words of Julius Caesar following his victory over the King of Bosporus at the Battle of Zela around 47 B.C.

Hillary had been very influential in the build-up to the war in Libya, not only promoting disinformation about Qaddafi to support the U.S. military intervention, but also even meeting with opposition forces before the war to help plan for the post-Qaddafi order.

Gates told The New York Times that Hillary Clinton’s backing of military intervention in Libya was decisive. Obama had told him privately in the Oval Office that the Libya decision was “51-49,” and Gates said: “I’ve always thought that Hillary’s support for the broader mission in Libya put the president on the 51 side of the line for a more aggressive approach.”

Now ask Libyans how that turned out.

Hillary as a Liberal Richard Nixon

Hillary Clinton at a campaign rally in Tempe, Arizona, November 2016. (Gage Skidmore, Flickr, CC BY-SA 2.0)

Described by one of her detractors as a “cool and hardened political operative,” Hillary honed her political skills in the early 1970s, when she served as an investigator on the House Judiciary Committee set up to decide whether Richard Nixon should be impeached for his involvement in the Watergate scandal. She learned a lot from studying Nixon’s political tactics, and later deployed those skills to advantage in a truly Nixonian manner by manufacturing the bogus Russiagate scandal to malign her political rival Donald Trump and explain her humiliating loss to him in 2016.

According to Barbara Olson, chief counsel for the House Oversight Committee that investigated an assortment of Clinton scandals,

“Few Americans realize the extent to which Hillary burnished her political skills [by] practicing the bare-knuckle tactics of the highly politicized House Judiciary Committee on the Watergate Impeachment investigation.” 

Hillary skillfully used an arsenal of “opposition researchers and private detectives,” that her mentor Dick Morris identified as “secret police,” in a systematic campaign to “intimidate, frighten, threaten, discredit and punish innocent Americans whose only misdeed is their desire to tell the truth.”

Another example of what Hillary learned from Nixon is how useful it can be to portray oneself as a victim of powerful anti-democratic forces. Nixon had complained of a “vast left-wing conspiracy” arrayed against him; Hillary turned that on its head, claiming that she and her husband were victims of a “vast right-wing conspiracy.” As a master manipulator, she made that charge stick by cultivating influential journalists and turning them into “surrogates” or “fans” who duped the public on her behalf.

Corporate Liberal

A liberal on social issues, Hillary remains, at her core, what the old Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) used to call a “corporate liberal,” identified by a close and symbiotic relationship with Corporate America and Wall Street.

From 1986 to 1992, as first lady of Arkansas, Hillary sat on the board of Wal-Mart. In that position, she promoted female advancement and more eco-friendly stores, though stood silent about Wal-Mart’s low-wage and anti-union policies, which benefited from Arkansas’ status as a “right-to-work” state — something Bill had supported from the beginning of his political career in 1976.

Large Appetite for Military Engagement

If elected president in 2024, Hillary would no doubt continue to champion women’s rights and to some extent environmentalism, but would not rock the boat too far in advancing any domestic reforms, and would perpetuate the Biden administration’s foreign policies, including its confrontational approach toward China and Russia, upon which she has “advocated doubling down.”

According to an aide, Hillary’s foreign-policy instincts were grounded in cold realism about human nature and “a textbook view of American exceptionalism.”

Mark Landler wrote in his New York Times Magazine profile that, “For all their bluster about bombing the Islamic State into oblivion, neither Donald J. Trump nor Senator Ted Cruz of Texas has demonstrated anywhere near the appetite for military engagement abroad that [Hillary] Clinton has.”

Hillary’s hawkish instincts may derive in part from the influence of her father, Hugh S. Rodham, a staunch anti-communist and Republican who was a naval officer in World War II.

In 1975 (the year she married Bill Clinton), despite her professed opposition to the Vietnam War, Hillary claimed to have stopped in at a Marine recruiting office in Arkansas to inquire about joining the active forces or reserves. She was allegedly turned away because of her age (she was almost 27), gender and poor eyesight (she wore coke-bottled eyeglasses).  

Two decades later, when Hillary as first lady visited American troops stationed in Bosnia, she claimed, during the 2008 campaign, to have dodged sniper fire after her C-17 military plane landed at an American base in Tuzla. However, Chris Hill, a diplomat who was on board that day, did not remember any sniping but rather that children had handed her bouquets of flowers.

When Hillary was elected to the Senate from New York, she was determined to protect the state’s remaining military bases from being closed down. Just after 9/11, she traveled to Fort Drum at the invitation of General Franklin “Buster” Hagenbeck, who was subsequently deployed to Afghanistan and tried to warn her about the risk of invading Iraq — which he said would be “like kicking over a bee’s nest.”

But Hillary ignored his advice and subsequently voted to authorize U.S. military action in Iraq. Subsequently, she took a seat on the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee alongside fellow hawks like John McCain (R-AZ), and grew close with General Jack Keane, a board member of General Dynamics who was a key architect of George W. Bush’s troop-surge strategy in Iraq in 2007.

(Bad) Lessons from Arkansas

2006 presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton stopped by Little Rock to get the endorsement of Gov. Mike Beebe. (David Quinn, CC BY 2.0, Wikimedia Commons)

The Clinton political brand was christened in Arkansas in the 1980s during Bill’s governorships (1979-1981; 1983-1992). As Arkansas’ first lady, Hillary managed her husband’s public relations image and, according to insiders, was the power behind the throne.

Most significant was how, according to The Washington Post, Hillary used her position as partner at the prestigious Rose Law Firm to cultivate support for Bill among Arkansas’ economic elite.

Rose’s clients included: Wal-Mart; Stephens, Inc., the largest investment house in the U.S. outside of Wall Street; Dan Lasater, a bond trader convicted for cocaine trafficking who was Bill’s largest campaign donor; and Tyson Foods, which allegedly provided Bill with envelopes filled with cash in support of his political campaigns.

As part of the quid pro quo, Hillary recommended many of the regulators and judges who wound up favoring the clients of her employer and who donated money to her husband’s campaign.

By the mid-1980s, with Hillary’s help, Bill had compiled the most impressive list of corporate donors in Arkansas’ political history. When Bill set up the Arkansas Development Finance Authority (ADFA) as Arkansas’ lead economic development agency, many of its contracts went to these corporate donors in deals worked through the Rose Law Firm, which made at least $175,000 from the arrangement.

Hillary billed 60 hours of work to Madison Guaranty, a savings and loan association enmeshed in legal problems that was set up by Bill’s business partner, Jim McDougal, to finance the Clinton’s Whitewater land investment and which provided a “slush fund” for their political campaigns.

Government regulators noticed that Whitewater was making loan payments to Clinton when its accounts at Madison were overdrawn and the overdrafts were covered by a Madison subsidiary; a classic sign of S&L fraud, which Hillary may have helped to cover up.

Hillary appears to have been involved in potentially jail-worthy activity involving cattle futures trading that enabled the Tyson chicken dynasty to give the Clintons in excess of $100,000 in campaign donations.

The scheme was orchestrated by Tyson’s principal outside counsel, James Blair, a friend of the Clintons, who set up Hillary with a $1,000 investment that yielded a dividend of more than $100,000.

The original investment was recorded as $12,000 from the records of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, but Clinton only had $1,000 in her account at the time. Despite her claims of actively managing her own account, on the three days when the trading was most active, she was involved in an all-day meeting out of town.

Blair’s partner in the operation, Robert L. “Red” Bone, was at the time under investigation for fraud in manipulation of the cattle trading market.

Author Roger Morris, in Partners in Power: The Clintons and Their America, noted that Hillary’s “spectacular” 10,000 percent return on her investment had all the trappings of being part of “prearranged trades.” Dow Jones analysts Caroline Baum and commodities trader Victor Niederhof  determined that “if legitimate, the odds against such prescience and mastery [by Clinton] would have been ‘about the same as those of finding the Dead Sea Scrolls on the steps of the State House in Little Rock.’”

Hillary’s $100,000 hit was “a money transfer disguised as commodity profits.” If “she had allowed Blair and Red Bone to allocate other customers’ winnings to her accounts and to park her losses in those others, then she had committed the ultimate fraud.”

‘Like a Tornado’

The Clintons’ corrupt ways and backstabbing made them many enemies in Arkansas who saw through their phony veneer.

In his memoir, Jim McDougal, who took the fall for the Whitewater scandal and died of a heart attack in prison, wrote that the Clintons were “like a tornado who came into people’s lives” and “destroyed them;” they “took without giving back in return.”

These comments should be borne in mind by voters if Hillary vies one last time to achieve her dream of the presidency.

Like a tornado, she will come into people’s lives, conning them into a vote, and then betray and destroy them, as she and her husband have always done.

Jeremy Kuzmarov is managing editor of CovertAction Magazine. He is author of four books on U.S. foreign policy, including Obama’s Unending Wars (Clarity Press, 2019) and The Russians Are Coming, Again, with John Marciano (Monthly Review Press, 2018).

Steve Brown is a member of the editorial board of CovertAction Magazine and a former director of Pacifica Radio and WBAI-FM in New York. He is a co-founder of the Progressive Radio Network (PRN), president of the Alliance for Community Elections (ACE) and has run political campaigns for the U.S. Senate, governor of New York and mayor of New York City.

The views expressed are solely those of the authors and may or may not reflect those of Consortium News.

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37 comments for “What if the 2024 ‘Whispers’ Are Right?

  1. renate
    September 12, 2022 at 14:02

    We don’t need an old woman for president, we had enough of old people, Biden and Trump are more than enough. And nothing about Hillary is appealing, she is just another female super-aggressive warmonger. She is ambitious and brutal.

  2. Jeff Harrison
    September 12, 2022 at 10:57

    The United States is screwed. We have war mongering whack-a-doodles on the Right and we have warmongering assholes on the “Left” which I put in quotes because we don’t have a left in the US anymore. We only have politicians that aren’t actual fascists and/or total authoritarians. If this be “democracy”, “democracy” is a joke. Bring back the monarchy (just not the British one).

  3. robert e williamson jr
    September 12, 2022 at 10:46

    If H Clinton is allowed to run by the Democrats that might be the one thing that could get another bad applicant the job of POTUS. This is not what the US needs at this point in time.

  4. evelyn
    September 11, 2022 at 19:34

    Our corrupted political system – with a Speaker of the House who can’t understand why members of Congress who write the laws and pass them shouldn’t be allowed to trade stocks and to prove herself correct she pushed back with ” isn’t this is a capitalist country? ” (how dumb and revealing that was)

    Our 2 dominant parties have hollowed out the U.S. industrial base, ignored infrastructure, wasted $trillions on for profit wars for the MIC and MIC stockholders, destroyed countries, killing millions, condoned torture, and here at home they ignored working people, imprisoned whistleblowers, arbitraged cheaper foreign labor against their own working people, relocating factories overseas. They crafted trade treaties they called “free trade” but the trade rules cynically favored corporations over people. They destroyed Glass Steagall protections of banking and now we have trillions of highly leveraged derivatives hanging like a sword of Damocles over our heads ready to crash the financial system.

    The unsustainable house of cards they built with their ignorance, greed and hubris may finally come tumbling down on their heads blown up by their latest gambits against Russia and China which have backfired on them.
    We’ve taken on countries who can fight back because they have the industrial base, the oil, the gas, the minerals, the rare earths needed by the rest of the world which surprise, surprise, bolstered their economic endurance to withstand any sanctions that we’ve used in the past to coerce obedience.

    Russia, China, Brazil, India, South Africa and a growing number of countries in Eurasia and the South are working together to craft a financial BRICS system – a currency basket, free from $ based threats and en route to become a new petro currency, backed in theory if not practice by the wealth of their natural resources. The BRICS currency could well be en route to replace petro$s wiping the WEST’s sanction threats off the board.

    We’ll probably continue to threaten the world, but our corrupt establishment has turned us into a paper tiger from their callous greed, stupidity, and indifference to the suffering they create at home and around the world.

    Hillary was a main participant serving the corporate masters while preaching social causes to get her votes. Her hysterics over RussiaGate to excuse her loss after kneecapping the only hope we had to return this country to sustainability, Bernie Sanders, is losing steam.

    It’s discouraging that for decades a clique of women have had so much influence at State – you know all the names – under the dubious umbrella of gender equality and have wreaked worldwide havoc serving their benefactors, the banks and the war corporations – jumping onto the women’s movement to get public support.

    The MEDIA, a key component of Ray McGovern’s MICIMATT, may finally be exposed for cozying up to NEOCON/NEOLIBERAL profiteering because now the too big to threaten “victim countries” have been wisely uniting under the BRICS umbrella, which seems focused on a more mature multipolar world seeking cooperation on the major problems of the day….

  5. September 11, 2022 at 12:20

    The attack on Libya was unbelievably irresponsible and dangerous. Libya had been persuaded to give up its chemical weapons and to abandon any nuclear weapons ambitions that it may have had. To then attack it seemed to me at the time to be an act of unbelievable folly that could well persuade other countries to hold onto, or acquire, such weapons.

    And, of course, there is the devastation of that country too.

    If people do not want to see the return of Hillary Clinton then they will need to make their views clear before she starts to gain momentum.

    • Indu
      September 11, 2022 at 20:44

      Tony, your afterthought says it all – ” And of course, there is the devastation of that country too”! A pillaging plundering oligarchic culture is made possible by the arrogant assumption that it is America’s manifest destiny to subjugate countries.

  6. Susan Leslie
    September 11, 2022 at 08:51

    The Clintons are just pure evil! They should be tried and sentenced for crimes against humanity!

  7. Reality Loser
    September 11, 2022 at 00:35

    Excuse me, but there are two big elephants in the room that should be at least noticed.

    1st Big Elephant…. Biden and the Democrats appear to be on track for Global Nuclear War before the 2024 elections.

    Hey, maybe there’s a Hollywack BlockBuster in there. A post-apocalypse reality flick of a convoy trying to travel across country to bring the votes from the Deep Mineshafts back to the Electoral College. The Democrats are leading the Popular vote 24 to 18, and the 13 lucky souls in the Deep Mineshafts will determine the Next President. Lots of Adventure and some Comedy as our heroes fight monsters and disasters to make Democracy Count!

    2nd Big Elephant … No matter who wins the final vote totals, they’ll have to fight for it. There is zero sign that the Republicans would accept defeat. Thus the votes won’t count. Hope the Democrats don’t give up all their guns.

  8. August Doldrum
    September 11, 2022 at 00:29

    In the Democratic Party, its Kamala’s turn, and the rule in the Democrats is that who-ever’s turn it is gets to take their turn — democracy and who the party members want be damned. The succession has been decided and Kamala will be coronated. Democrat party members will get about the same amount of say in this as the Brits get in who’s their monarch.

  9. WillD
    September 10, 2022 at 23:58

    Does the world deserve such a fate? With Clinton in the job, the chances of WWIII would rise exponentially.

  10. bardamu
    September 10, 2022 at 22:09

    This is that moment at the end of the movie where the audience thinks things have settled and the hand reaches out of the grave.

    Clinton is another geriatric remnant of a kleptocratic group who insist on running their own for reasons of in-group trust. Neither she nor Biden nor similar is apt to do much governing. They hold the position down so that prosecutions do not take place, and they employ the people who will continue and extend current problems—-

    until they cannot.

    But the Republicans afford no relief. We are outside the possibilities of directly useful electoral response at a national level.

  11. Mary Caldwell
    September 10, 2022 at 21:55

    “The White House became under Clinton “like a subway: you have to put in coins to open the gate,” to quote Taiwanese-born lobbyist Johnny Chung, who was convicted of funneling money to Clinton’s 1996 re-election campaign in violation of campaign finance laws. ”

    And yet here she is today hoping to run once more.

    Imo, she and her husband ruined the Democratic Party,

    But what makes them continue, why do they still have so much power and yet be so incredibly corrupt and rotten !

    Do either of them have anything resembling a conscience……..They are so disgusting to me.

    • J Anthony
      September 12, 2022 at 06:30

      The answer to your “why?” is simple: money. A lot of liberals particularly among the professional-class (media, lawyers, bankers, managers, administrators) care only for their own economic security and will vote accordingly. In this way they are no different than their upper-income conservative counterparts,

      • September 12, 2022 at 14:44

        Ugh! Clinton would guarantee a DeSantis win!!
        She is the worst possible candidate just like she was in 2020.
        It really doesn’t matter. Rome has been burning since 911.

  12. Kiers
    September 10, 2022 at 19:27

    It’s required by US campaign finance LAW to say “No but Yes” “Maybe” “I “INTEND” to run” “Hmmm…thinking about it” “I’ve set up an exploratory committee” etc etc.

    Yeah! “Exploratory Committee” means “my bribe market window is now open for bidding”! See, under “the campaign law” you can’t CO_ORDINATE fundraising if you’re an “active” candidate, but the law says nothing about coordinating actions while fundraising when you’re NOT an official candidate!

    All it means is THE AUCTION MARKET WINDOW HAS JUST OPENED. BETTING/BRIBING IS ALLOWED till “all bets are off” at the influence peddling track!

  13. Marjorie St. Clair
    September 10, 2022 at 19:25

    Ron De Santis will win the Republican nomination and be our next President.

  14. Lois Gagnon
    September 10, 2022 at 15:58

    We will be lucky to survive another puppet of the oligarchy or Trump. At the rate we’re going, we’ll be lucky to survive Biden. I agree we need to vote third party. I hope my Greens nominate someone who will be able to make the case strongly enough to overcome all the dirty tricks that will be used against them. It ain’t easy being Green.

  15. Harvey Reading
    September 10, 2022 at 15:08

    If the fasciocrats are dumb enough to run that witch again, I’m finished with ’em.

  16. September 10, 2022 at 15:06

    She will put on a liberal facade but zero chance she will support the union efforts at Starbucks Amazon or anywhere else. We fight her not at the voting.booth but in the work plsce

  17. Alan
    September 10, 2022 at 13:26

    It is because of Hillary that the Democrats have such a thin bench of potential candidates for the Presidency. That job was kept open for Clinton, who, it was anticipated, would now be in her second term. The Party leadership went to great lengths to suppress any progressive candidates who might “steal” the crown that was meant for her head and none other. When Biden drops out and Hillary bestows her beneficent graces upon the party, there will be a very strong reaction amongst the *many* Dems who despise her. Independent and disaffected Republicans will turn out en masse to vote against her, regardless of who the Republican candidate might be. It will be yet another electoral debacle.

  18. Alex Cox
    September 10, 2022 at 12:29

    Given a choice between two useless candidates, weak, narcissistic, venal and clueless, one of whom is supported by the MSM, FBI, CIA and NSA, and one of whom is opposed by same, one might have a reason to choose the latter.

    If only Orange Man Bad had the stones to stand up the the intelligence agencies next time around, there might be a real difference between the candidates.

    • D.L. Sharp-Gralinski
      September 12, 2022 at 12:58

      LOL- there is no difference- You did not reac the article. BTW The MSM put the last guy in office the first time he ran – he put himseld out of office the second time he ran. There is no solution. There are no good guys or gals,

  19. Duck
    September 10, 2022 at 11:39

    NO. NO. NO.

  20. Peter Loeb
    September 10, 2022 at 10:49

    This article is excellent reminding all of us of Hillary’s record, She is “female”, but beyond that is
    not what liberals/progressives would want. Clinton’s killing of Glass-Steagel in plain view is the cause of
    many of our concerns today as many economist will attend.

    To put much of the article in context, writers on the left persistently fail to note that much of our problems
    with the military-industrial-congressional complex was begun by FDR in 1940-41 including perks for corporations,
    contract plus guarantees and so forth. As many have noted, the New Deal did not solve the great depression,
    World War Two did that. But then…we all need illusions!

  21. Tim N
    September 10, 2022 at 10:15

    Why shouldn’t Hillary be the Dem choice to replace the addled Biden? The Clintons own the Party; the Dem Party is a rightwing, pro-war, pro Wallstreet Party. That is not going to change, short of a revolution. The question is: are leftists going to tell other leftists to vote for the rightwing warmonger Clinton? They did with Biden, and Biden is worse than Trump in every category except mean-tweeting. It’s time to not vote for these lunatics, even if it means the other rightwing warmonger gets elected.

    • maxine
      September 10, 2022 at 17:58

      I don’t understand why you got the idea that leftists told other leftists “to vote for the rightwing warmonger Clinton?….Nor to vote for Biden….Those who you call “leftists” are not leftist at all, they ar simply rightwing crazies with D before their names….Ture leftists would never resort to such unintelligent idiocy.

  22. James Keye
    September 10, 2022 at 09:33

    We humans are naturally disposed to simplicities: Trump did it. Clinton (either one) did it. But, the reality is that, like the leading edge of a glacier, the easily observed movement comes from the whole system of forces. The accounts of Clinton’s actions (again, either one) are in large measure true…and damaging. Hidden in our easy understanding, however, is that the ‘tectonic’ political and economic movements select the people who rise to notice, who act out the surface motions of those more powerful forces. Without a competent and effective analysis of those forces and how they support and motivate political actors, we will continue to be locked in this sort of ‘a rock and hard place’ analysis.

  23. September 10, 2022 at 06:26

    2025 may be the year I finally give it up and go live in a one room apartment in some other country. I’m not sure I can take another election of the bottom-of-the-barrel rot, though it is precisely what I believe this country will once again present as the options and for which the voters will give their allegiance–no matter what better third party option may squeeze its way onto the ballots of most states.

  24. J Anthony
    September 10, 2022 at 04:54

    Goddamn are we going backwards….politically voters are stuck with “bad” or “worse”, then they wonder why everything is so f***ed-up for anyone who isn’t rich? As big a problem as the 2 parties are the millions who continue to give them a cloak-of-credibility with their votes. I often fantasize about what would happen if a presidential election took place, and nearly no one voted (D) or (R)…

  25. September 9, 2022 at 18:59

    The Clintons truly are a tornado of self-interest. Since coming to the national spotlight, the local, state, and national losses for the realigned Democrat party have only continued to mount. With the help of a very willing corporate mainstream media, they have turned the neoliberal voice to full blast. I don’t want to guess who would win in a head-to-head between Clinton and Trump but one thing is certain, either way, America and the world loses.

    • michael888
      September 10, 2022 at 07:07

      Hillary will easily win. With the Establishment (Wall Street/ Federal Bureaucrats, and other MICIMATT members) arrayed on her side, and a much more political FBI/ CIA than in 2016, with State Media championing her (LEGAL for the State Department/ CIA to do since Obama’s abolition/modernization of the anti-domestic propaganda Smith Mundt Act), and more lies built on Russiagate, the voters and their opinions don’t really matter. This will be a replay of 2020 but on steroids, another “An Election Too Important to Be Left to Voters”. The machinations will make 2016 look quaint: time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
      Can Hillary make it through 2025 without nuking anybody? She makes John McCain look like a pacifist.

  26. Realist
    September 9, 2022 at 18:40

    Hillary can sure dish it out, she should be able to take it in return. She doesn’t need special privilege. Neither does the Democratic Party. Both deserve a lot of the blame for the current world tensions, and indeed, for most of the violence.

  27. Alex Nosal
    September 9, 2022 at 18:26

    If there were ever a time to vote for a Third party, 2024 is it. Regardless of whether it is Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis, HRC, Trump or Kamala, they are all despicable. If the American public chooses either Party in 2024, they will bear the responsibility for the global disruptions that these ego-maniacs will certainly deliver.
    The main problem here will obviously be a third party that can actually get on the ballot in all 5o States. We also already know that the MSM will demonize, marginalize and ignore any party outside of the corrupt duopoly, yet word travels fast if a viable alternative arises. Corporate money at the State level is always on the look out for third party challengers so that they can snuff them our early in any political campaign.
    A second problem will be other extreme corporate friendly parties running but disguised as being anti-corporate. The Tea Party or Ross Perot comes to mind. Polls will reveal what we already know, and that is that the Republican and Democrat front runners are very unpopular with the general population, especially the younger people who have grown up watching nothing but compromised imbeciles running for office their entire lives.
    The final hurdle will be corporate America doing whatever they can to destroy any serious challenger outside of the duopoly using deep pockets to finance frivolous lawsuits, smear campaigns and even U.S. law enforcement agencies if necessary to silence their critics. Corporate America has sponsored every major coup in the world for decades and knows a thing or two about undermining the democratic process or suppressing popular movements.
    Despite all of these obstacles, the 99% can still triumph if they come to realize that it is these two Party’s that are the cornerstone of American injustice. The vast majority of Americans know that their politicians don’t represent their views, but many are still struggling to identify the main culprit behind decades of lies and graft (it’s a handful of corporations in case you don’t already know that!) as the media uses a variety of distractions and false flags to misdirect the public. “It’s the liberals, it’s Putin, it’s the LGBTQ community, it’s immigrants, it’s the Republicans or the Democrats!”, but you will never see the media point the finger at the big five military industrial companies or the big five energy companies or the big three agricultural companies. The list is not that long, but it is protected, ominous and always off the public radar. Preventing an alternative choice to the status quo, is just too scary to imagine as our planet races to the sixth mass extinction event with the complete backing of Wall Street.
    It is long past due when the 99% must unite by never electing a Democrat or a Republican again!

    • Dr. Hujjatullah M.H.B. Sahib
      September 10, 2022 at 03:20

      Great reflective and highly responsible comment that manages to stay apolitical, objective and oriented towards problem-solving. America and the American publics need more of this otherwise the American hegemony would disappear as fast as has the American dream even before things get sucked away under powerful petticoats in the not too distant future !

  28. R. Billie
    September 9, 2022 at 17:54

    Quadaffi was lynched? I thought he was savagely and grotesquely killed by having a sword rammed up his backside, which would make Hillary’s comment “we came, we saw, he died” also fairly savage and grotesque.

    • Consortiumnews.com
      September 9, 2022 at 19:01

      “Lynching is an extrajudicial killing by a group. It is most often used to characterize informal public executions by a mob in order to punish an alleged transgressor, punish a convicted transgressor, or intimidate people.” – Wikipedia. It does not need to be by hanging.

    • September 10, 2022 at 13:51

      Yes…it would.

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