From the Archive: The attempted ethnic cleansing of Sheikh Jarrah, the storming of Islam’s third holiest site, a Hamas ultimatum ignored, and the renewed bombing of Gaza has brought to the fore Israeli leaders’ appalling notion of “mowing the grass” as Elizabeth Murray recalls in this piece first published Nov. 16, 2012.
By Elizabeth Murray
Special to Consortium News
Nov. 16, 2012
In early 2010, one of Washington DC’s most prestigious think tanks was holding a seminar on the Middle East which included a discussion of Israel’s December 2008-January 2009 assault on Gaza which killed about 1,300 Palestinians. When the death toll was mentioned, one expert on the panel smiled enigmatically and intoned: “It’s unfortunate, but every once in a while you have to mow the lawn.”
The remark, which likened killing hundreds of men, women and children, many of them noncombatants, with trimming the grass, was greeted with a light tittering around the room, filled with some of Washington’s most elite, highly educated and well-paid Middle East experts. Not a single one objected to the panelist’s black humor.
The cavalier language is symptomatic of the policymaking community’s increasingly pervasive tendency to disregard and disparage the humanity of Palestinian victims of Israeli attacks, often waged by Israel’s high-tech drones and U.S.-supplied F-16’s. There is also a tendency to ignore or downplay Israeli war crimes. On the contrary, several analysts and experts were grinning at the reference to Israel’s strategy of mounting periodic attacks on the Palestinians to cull each new generation of militants. Such is the nonchalance of Washington’s policy-advising cognoscenti toward the ongoing and systematic genocide of Gaza’s oppressed population.
This dangerously sociopathic attitude is prevalent whether cloaked in a cheap joke or reflected in the usual failure by the State Department spokesman to condemn or even acknowledge the criminality of Israel’s aerial and sea-based bombardment of Palestinian civilians.
Less Than Human
After the 2012 attacks, the State Department justified Israel’s bombardment of Gaza as Israel’s “right to defend itself” against the launching of relatively primitive rockets, mostly by radical groups, from inside Gaza. Yet, while the State Department urged both sides to avoid civilian casualties, nowhere was there mention of the Palestinians’ right to defend themselves from various attacks by Israel. Apparently only one side is granted that privilege, according to the U.S.
The relegation of Palestinians to a less-than-human status by Israel and the United States, especially the inhabitants of Gaza who are perpetually locked into an open-air prison and subject to an Israeli blockade, was noted by MIT professor Noam Chomsky after a visit to Gaza to attend an academic conference. In comments broadcast by Democracy Now on Nov. 14, 2012, Chomsky remarked:
“It’s kind of amazing and inspiring to see people managing somehow to survive as essentially caged animals subject to constant, random, sadistic punishment only to humiliate them no pretext. They [the Palestinians] would like to have dignified lives, but the standard Israeli position is that they shouldn’t raise their heads.”
An Israeli strike caused a huge explosion in a residential area in Gaza during the Israeli assault on Gaza in 2008-2009. (Al Jazeera)
Instead of a serious effort to reach a peace acceptable to both sides, Israel seems to prefer a state of endless conflict with the Palestinians. After all, the prospect of peace might require the Israeli government to treat their neighbors as equals and withdraw from the West Bank, occupied since 1967, and to lift the Gaza blockade.
Rather than make meaningful concessions, some Israeli hardliners simply promote the idea of periodically “mowing the grass,” i.e. killing the latest generation of Palestinian militants who sprout up from the injustice all around them. Perhaps that is why Israel broke an informal ceasefire (during the 2012 offensive) by assassinating Hamas military commander Ahmed Jabari in an air strike.
Jabari was killed hours after he received the draft of a permanent truce agreement with Israel, which included mechanisms for maintaining the ceasefire, according to Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped mediate talks between Israel and Hamas for the release of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit.
Jabari was a key Palestinian interlocutor in the release of Shalit, and an important intermediary for truce negotiations with groups such as the PFLP and Islamic Jihad. Such a relatively moderate figure may have been perceived as a threat to Israeli leaders who prefer to portray Hamas as rejectionist toward any peace.
These developments and the U.S. response to them are a chilling omen for those who had hoped for a change in U.S. Middle East policy after the 2012 U.S. presidential election namely, increased pressure on Israel to halt its cruel oppression of Palestinians and obey international law.
There was still a window of opportunity for the U.S. to shift its approach before the violence spiraled out of control. One could have hoped that then President Barack Obama might rein in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Instead Obama’s eerie and reprehensible silence during the Israeli assault on Gaza in December 2008-January 2009 has been repeated by President Donald Trump in the massacres at the Gaza fence last week.
Elizabeth Murray served as Deputy National Intelligence Officer for the Near East in the National Intelligence Council before retiring after a 27-year career in the U.S. government, where she specialized in Middle Eastern political and media analysis. She is a member of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS).
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Thank you for a detailed explanation. I am writing an essay about Palestinians and the current issue. So, this article shed some light and helped me understand what is going on.
But as a Ha’aretz headline said years ago, if the settlers get rid of the Palestinians, who will wipe their arses for them? Palestinians did all the lowly work in Israel, every time I’ve been there. Attempts to replace them with Rumanian or Fujianese guestworkers have not been successful.
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY!
“In this country, any sort of debate back and forth, any sort of incisive editorial comment in the major newspapers, is almost completely absent… And any member of Congress who’s looking to be re-elected couldn’t possibly say that they would take a balanced position between Israel and the Palestinians, it’s very likely that they would not be re-elected,” — Jimmy Carter, 2006, 26 years after he’d been out of the White House!
Source: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED | The History The US Government HOPES You Never Learn! (4/15/2018)
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/
Israel is good at what it does. Damn good. No, not its slaughter, torture and endless detention and land theft; these are givens.
It is admirable to realize how there are still people who are not afraid of unmasking the actors of inhuman massacres occurring all over the world and at the same time critizing the cynicism uttered , in this case, by one of Washington DC ‘s most prestigious think tanks who wildly stated that : ” it is unfortunate, but every once in a while you have to mown the lawn ” Nom de dieu!( goddamn! ), was really this think tank able to assert such cynical words and at the same time smile away ? How pitty that Ms.E Murray does not name both his or her name and nationality ?These words, no doubt, deserve to be taken into account to see how humans are more and more out of their minds to the extend that easily cruel and inhuman deeds can be justified either in money’s name or in God’s name ,Hilter and his gang of criminal supporters did it in Aryan’s supremacy name, Definitely , I believe we are still living in the Stone age. What a shame¡
Last time I checked, majority of Palestinians were of the Muslim faith; this is of no consequence to Saudi Prince Bin Salman, because he is willing to commit heresy and deceit in his desire to establish his Zionist credentials and support for Israel. Israeli crimes against Islam and the Palestinians in particular are of no consequence. Check this out for yourself.
https://mideastwire.us12.list-manage.com/track/click?u=dfabb20a87095d6a87fba7306&id=b0384c492f&e=4fa893b0cc
“The deal of the century is stumbling…” – Part one (Al-Akhbar Lebanon, Lebanon)
Peace Process
On April 6, the Al-Akhbar daily newspaper carried the following report by Ali Jawad al-Amin: “…While the file of the “peace” is locked in a void circle because of the insistence of the Palestinian Authority’s Head, Mahmoud Abbas, on not giving up on East Jerusalem as the capital of the aspired for Palestinian state, Al-Riyadh is seemingly leaning in the direction of separating the two courses of normalization and “peace” since Bin Salman’s final ambition is not limited to merely achieving peace and rather goes beyond that to what’s next and to the resulting consequence of removing the Arab-Israeli conflict from the Kingdom’s political lexicon thus allowing the crown prince to keep his promises regarding the “natural relations” with the occupation and paving the way for the establishment of a public alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel in the face of Iran. (Read More)
So, when Israelis are suffering a similar fate should everyone be aghast at the inhumanity?
I think that’s the way the ball is supposed to bounce, for “everyone” else is NOT God’s Favorite People.
They stopped being God’s favourite race of people when they nailed his son to the cross? A rebellious, ignorant & stiff necked people, Moses called them & prophesied their rejection of God? Gods favouritism for Israel evaporated after the Messiahs death & to confirm this fact he allowed the Romans to sack Jerusalem & destroy the Temple in 70CE along with all their historical artefacts & genealogy records! One million Jews died & the rest were sold into slavery? That former Judean Nation then became Palestine & occupied by Arab races! Fast forward 2000 yrs & another confirmation that the Jews don’t have divine protection & favour? Nazi Germany killed 6 million Jews & God never intervened! England as a Colonial Power repatriated European Jews to Palestine & set up the new State of Israel! Israel has a new God now who provides it with its divine protection! Israel’s God is called America!
I suspect if you were a drinking buddy with a West Bank settler, he’d set you straight on that one. God DID intervene – Israel exists, doesn’t it? The intervention was sort of sneaky though. The Zionists of the day cut a deal with Hitler called the Haavara Agreement which allowed some 60,000 German Jews to migrate to Palestine during the Thirties. Being willing to go, they proved they were worthy of salvation while the ones who stubbornly stayed blew their chance.
Ok, it stinks, but I think something close to that would be presented. I know for sure the devout Zionists are using the same argument to say the Palestinians in Gaza are getting exactly what they deserve. From the dirt-poor “progressive” site probably owned/operated by an American Zionist:
Palestinians are getting what they deserve, just as the stay-home German jews (deliberate lower case) got what they deserved. Again, the Real Jews went to Palestine where they grow and prosper and preen and steal and murder and celebrate every Paleo massacre.
I can’t verify the information on account of not reading Hebrew, but “outsider” non-Zionists have written that the Thirties Zionists turned down other offers for the German jews to escape. It was all or nothing with them, according to those authors.
I was about 8 years old when a devout older lady told that to us in the Southern Baptist church’s Sunday School Class. This would get a roar of laughter in Israel. Probably here too, for what has the US ever done – from 1789 to 2018 – to merit such a rating?
Just because a nation labels itself as “God’s Favorite People” or “Exceptional”/”Light of the World” doesn’t make it so.
I mis-read the last quote, one which I now see is basically accurate. I’d restate it to say Israel’s stupid/senile Super-Rich Uncle is America.
What I previously thought I’d seen was the Fundamentalist claim the US has taken over the position of God’s Chosen Ones.
Sorry for my screw-up.
The only entity, that can stop the US government, from doing stupid stuff (like the support for,”Apartheid State of Israel.) is the organized people of this country, hitting the streets.!!
WE need an “AMERICAN SPRING” fast.!
Everybody who has an (Opinion, News Platform,You tube Channel) should start promoting,organizing and advertising for this. !
I’m afraid the Apartheid State of Israel has already trained large numbers of American Police to treat US citizens as Palestinians. The policeman who Tased or clubbed or shot you would probably get a promotion.
Here is a Reuters headline:
“Russia says Israeli use of force against Palestinians unacceptable”
I don’t know what this means, but I’m guessing the statement was some kind of message to somebody. Russia is extremely vexed about the recent Israeli missile attack on Syria, and are properly worried that was some kind of signal to the Orange Potus that HIS attack would also result in the Russians sucking their thumbs in response.
It’s true that an all-out Israeli attack could probably wipe out the current Russian air defense bases in Syria. In my opinion that would be an unbelievably stupid mistake by the Honey Bucket criminal gang called Israel.
h**ps://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-palestinians-protests-russia/russia-says-israeli-use-of-force-against-palestinians-unacceptable-idUSKBN1HG1VP
We should be calling for the resignation of all 46 dual Israelis in Congress, including Chuck Schumer who gave a recent and appalling speech at the AIPAC conference. Been Cardin, also one of the pushers of Russiagate (the hatred of the Ashkenaxi Kazharian ‘Jews’ toward Russia goes back centuries), Feinstein, Sanders, etc, serve Israel interests and not the American people. Secondly, we need to immediately sanction Israel and forbade it US weaponry with which to kill this oppressed population, and thirdly, any Zionist left within Government needs to be replaced
The installment of Bolton is a frightening one for not only the Palestinian people but for the American people. Yesterday’s false flag in Syria, is the pretext they will utilize for more Palestinian genocide and wars for Israel in the middle East
The Nazis went after the Jews, now the Jews are going after ARABS. Israel has learned nothing from the very Holocaust it uses to claim victimization while committing a Holocaust upon Arabs. Israel is now obvious.
The post from Kelli contains two errors:
1) The “dual Israelis in Congress” claim is a Hasbara propaganda canard
2) Jews who live in Israel have killed and threatened to Muslims and Christians, as well as fellow Jews, throughout the Middle East, This includes not only Muslim Arabs in Jerusalem, Gaza, the illegally occupied Palestinian territories on the west Bank and Golan Heights area of Syria, Lebanon and Syria proper. Israeli Jews now threaten to attack Muslim Persians and Jews in Iran. With its arsenal of nuclear weapons, Jews in Israel have threatened to murder people of all faiths in major cities throughout the world.
The “dual citizens” canard is a stellar example of Inverted Hasbara (false flag “anti-Israel” / “anti-Zionist”, and fake “anti-Jewish” / “anti-Semitic”) propaganda that gets ramped up whenever needed, but particularly Israel wants to rain bombs on the neighborhood.
Like Conventional Hasbara (overtly pro-Israel or pro-Zionist) propaganda, the primary purpose of Inverted Hasbara false flag propaganda is to divert attention from Israeli military and government actions, and to provide cover for Israel Lobby activities
The Inverted Hasbara propaganda canard mentioned by Kelli came into prominence after the Israel-initiated war Lebanon in 2006.
Israel’s shaky military performance, flooding of south Lebanon cluster munitions, use of white phosphorus in civilian areas brought censure. Further Israeli attacks on Gaza brought increasing pressure on the neocon-infested Bush administration for its backing of Israel.
A Facebook post titled, “List of Politicians with Israeli Dual Citizenship,” started circulating. The post mentioned “U.S. government appointees who hold powerful positions and who are dual American-Israeli citizens.”
With the change of US administration in 2008, new versions of the post appeared with headlines such as “Israeli Dual Citizens in the U.S. Congress and the Obama Administration.” Common versions included 22 officials currently or previously with the Obama administration, 27 House members and 13 senators.
The posts were false for a variety of reasons, not least of which was the misrepresentation of Israeli nationality law. Israel does allow its citizens to hold dual (or multiple) citizenship. A dual national is considered an Israeli citizen for all purposes, and is entitled to enter Israel without a visa, stay in Israel according to his own desire, engage in any profession and work with any employer according to Israeli law. An exception is that under an additional law added to the Basic Law: the Knesset (Article 16A) according to which Knesset members cannot pledge allegiance unless their foreign citizenship has been revoked, if possible, under the laws of that country.
The Law of Return grants all Jews the right to immigrate to Israel and almost automatic Israeli citizenship upon arrival in Israel. In the 1970s the Law of Return was expanded to grant the same rights to the spouse of a Jew, the children of a Jew and their spouses, and the grandchildren of a Jew and their spouses, provided that the Jew did not practice a religion other than Judaism willingly. In 1999, the Supreme Court of Israel ruled that Jews or the descendants of Jews that actively practice a religion other than Judaism are not entitled to immigrate to Israel as they would no longer be considered Jews under the Law of Return, irrespective of their status under halacha (Jewish religious law).
Israeli law distinguishes between the Law of Return, which allows for Jews and their descendants to immigrate to Israel, and Israel’s nationality law, which formally grants Israeli citizenship. In other words, the Law of Return does not itself determine Israeli citizenship; it merely allows for Jews and their eligible descendants to permanently live in Israel. Israel does, however, grant citizenship to those who immigrated under the Law of Return if the applicant so desires.
A non-Israeli Jew or an eligible descendant of a non-Israeli Jew needs to request approval to immigrate to Israel, a request which can be denied for a variety of reasons including (but not limited to) possession of a criminal record, currently infected with a contagious disease, or otherwise viewed as a threat to Israeli society. Within three months of arriving in Israel under the Law of Return, immigrants automatically receive Israeli citizenship unless they explicitly request not to.
In short, knowingly or not, poster Kelli has spouted Inverted Hasbara propaganda.
Conventional Hasbara (pro-Israel, pro-Zionist) propagandists constantly attempt to portray Israeli military threats against its neighbors, Israel’s illegal occupation of Palestinian territory, Zionist claims of an “unconditional land grant covenant” for Israel, or the manipulations of the Israel Lobby, as somehow all based on “the way the world really works”.
“WC” slithered into the CN comments Israel’s land grab “solution” was under scrutiny here:
Israel’s Stall-Forever ‘Peace’ Plan (September 23, 2017)
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/09/23/israels-stall-forever-peace-plan/
Hasbara propaganda troll “WC” promotes a loony “realism” in the CN comments, claiming for example that “The Jews aren’t doing anything different than the rest have done since the beginning of time.”
Last night made a post here which – many hours later – is still in “moderation”. So I’m going ot assume there was a software glitch and try again to post it. The basic theme of it is that the Israeli “Open Season” on Palestinians continues.
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What one of the Israeli swine is saying in 2018:
h**ps://www.sbs.com.au/news/israeli-defence-minister-says-no-innocent-people-in-gaza
From a 2009 essay about Gaza:
h**ps://chomsky.info/20090119/
God’s Favorite People are so very special that they can kill subhumans at will. (and anyone who isn’t one of Them qualifies as an animal) Just ask Them.
Zac. I am guessing from your comment that you are not moderated? If so, why is that? Same question can be asked of Abe. :)
From this morning’s Saker site:
Unfortunately the author goes on to say that Trump may yet try the same stunt himself, only with hundreds of cruise missiles. Launching them from converted Missile Subs (boomers) would (probably) mean the Russians couldn’t retaliate directly. So what would they do in that event? I doubt if they’d decide to sit on their hands and do nothing.
https://thesaker.is/so-it-was-the-invincible-tsahal/
Israeli soldiers and leaders (and Americans and other nationals serving in the Israeli armed forces) may be liable to prosecution before the ICC under expanded territorial and personal jurisdiction sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council:
Territorial jurisdiction
The territorial jurisdiction of the Court includes the territory, registered vessels, and registered aircraft of states which have either (1) become party to the Rome Statute or (2) accepted the Court’s jurisdiction by filing a declaration with the Court.
In situations that are referred to the Court by the United Nations Security Council, the territorial jurisdiction is defined by the United Nations Security Council, which may be more expansive than the Court’s normal territorial jurisdiction.
If the United Nations Security Council refers a situation that took place in the territory of a state that has both not become party to the Rome Statute and not lodged a declaration with the Court, the Court will still be able to prosecute crimes that occurred within that state.
Personal jurisdiction
The personal jurisdiction of the Court extends to all natural persons who commit crimes, regardless of where they are located or where the crimes were committed, as long as those individuals are nationals of either (1) states that are party to the Rome Statute or (2) states that have accepted the Court’s jurisdiction by filing a declaration with the Court.
As with territorial jurisdiction, the personal jurisdiction can be expanded by the United Nations Security Council if it refers a situation to the Court.
Of course, the United States would be in a position to exercise its veto power on the Security Council. But sufficient international pressure can be brought to bear to make such a move prohibitively costly.
How far is the United States willing to go to cover for the international crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes committed by Israel?
Currently, the Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC has opened investigations in the situation in Palestine.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/palestine
On April 8th, 2018, the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, Fatou Bensouda, stated the following regarding the worsening situation in Gaza:
“It is with grave concern that I note the violence and deteriorating situation in the Gaza Strip in the context of recent mass demonstrations. Since 30 March 2018, at least 27 Palestinians have been reportedly killed by the Israeli Defence Forces, with over a thousand more injured, many, as a result of shootings using live ammunition and rubber-bullets. Violence against civilians – in a situation such as the one prevailing in Gaza – could constitute crimes under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court (‘ICC’ or ‘the Court’), as could the use of civilian presence for the purpose of shielding military activities.
“I remind all parties that the situation in Palestine is under preliminary examination by my Office. While a preliminary examination is not an investigation, any new alleged crime committed in the context of the situation in Palestine may be subjected to my Office’s scrutiny. This applies to the events of the past weeks and to any future incident.
“I am aware that the demonstrations in the Gaza Strip are planned to continue further. My Office will continue to closely watch the situation and will record any instance of incitement or resort to unlawful force. I urge all those concerned to refrain from further escalating this tragic situation.
“Any person who incites or engages in acts of violence including by ordering, requesting, encouraging or contributing in any other manner to the commission of crimes within ICC’s jurisdiction is liable to prosecution before the Court, with full respect for the principle of complementarity. The resort to violence must stop.”
Abe, thanks for your detailed comment. The ICC has jurisdiction in this case because Palestine, as an Observer State of the U.N., was allowed to become a member of the court on April 1, 2015, and these killings took place on the territory of the Observer State of Palestine. It does not need referral by the Security Council to the court. –Joe
ICC is rattling shackles at the Israeli-Saudi-U.S. Axis
https://theglobalobservatory.org/2017/12/icc-jurisdiction-expand-will-states-be-deterred-war/
Abe & CNJoe. And what are the realistic odds of this happening? Abe has already stated what the “End Game” is for the middle east, and if he is right (as I believe he is) nothing will be allowed to interfere with this.
By golly, he manages to shoehorn in that “End Game” business again. Did Troll School teach him this was a winner? So time for the Jerry Alatalo challenge – again.
I wonder if it would be too much to expect a brief and concise outline instead of the usual hundreds of words which sound real purty yet say nothing at all. Yeah, it probably would.
Fatou Bensouda, Office of the Prosecutor of the ICC, has stood up to many African heads of state. It will not be easy for MSM, Hasbara, et al, to smear her into submission. The End Game may turn out to be a surprise.
Israelis may prefer their “mowing the grass” euphemism, but a more accurate analogy would be shooting “essentially caged animals” (Chomsky) or “fish in a barrel”.
The more racist of the Israelis refer to Palestinians (and non-Jews in general) as ‘two-legged beasts’.
Goes to show the attitude you are faced with. Something tells me they won’t be influenced by the bleeding hearts. :)
Inverted Hasbara (fake “anti-Zionist”) propaganda troll doppelgängers “WC” and “Tannenhouser” began bleating in unison in Fall 2017
For examples, see the Hasbara escapades of “WC” and “Tannenhouser” in the CN comments here
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/15/protecting-the-shaky-russia-gate-narrative/
Inverted Hasbara (false flag “anti-Zionist”) propaganda troll “WC” recently inserted the very alibi used by Israel to “justify” every one of its illegal land grabs and murder of civilans: so-called “security concerns” (see “WC”s comment (April 7, 2018 at 11:42 pm) for “On the Gaza Protesters Murdered by Israeli Forces”)
A recent trend in propaganda for Israel is to emphasize rather than minimize Israeli-Saudi-U.S. Axis efforts to “dominate”, both militarily and politically.
Rather than attempting to minimize, conceal, or dismiss the influence the pro-Israel Lobby (in America and elsewhere), both Conventional Hasbrara (overtly pro-Israel / pro-Zionist) and Inverted Hasbara (false flag “anti-Israel” / “anti-Zionist” as well as fake “anti-Jewish” / “anti-Semitic”) propaganda trolls have been claiming a purported awesome “power” of the pro-Israel Lobby to “dominate” the government of Western nations.
Let’s be clear. The pro-Israel Lobby does exert considerable influence. Israeli meddling in American electoral politics (as in the 2016 election Israel-gate reality underlying the endless “Russia-gate” fake news), Israel’s constant interference in U.S. foreign policy, and the collusion of pro-Israel American politicians in enabling Israel’s ongoing violations of international law, are all very real concerns.
Despite its purported “power”, the pro-Israel Lobby remains astonishingly insecure when faced of fact-based analysis and criticism, and informed citizen political action.
That’s why Israel and the pro-Israel Lobby devote so much effort to Hasbara propaganda.
That’s why we’ve witnessed the proliferation of both Conventional Hasbara and Inverted Hasbara trolls in the comments section at CN and other investigative journalism sites.
Back to “WC” and Hasbara troll pal “Tannenhouser”. Their main propaganda function is constantly kvetching about “this site”
“Tannenhouser” was off the hook in comments for “On the Gaza Protesters Murdered by Israeli Forces”, clearly suffering from a “confirmation bias” form of Hasbara troll dementia:
“ECHO back your idealogy/beliefs” [SIC] (April 6, 2018 at 6:49 pm)
“echo chambers” (April 7, 2018 at 10:38 am)
“echo chamber info” (April 7, 2018 at 12:09 pm)
“nothing more than an echo chamber” (April 7, 2018 at 12:09 pm)
“echo chamber” (April 7, 2018 at 4:32 pm )
“just hate […] just hate and a piling of the hatewagon” (April 7, 2018 at 8:57 am)
“hateful” (April 7, 2018 at 10:38 am )
“hateful […] hatewagon […] hateful […] hate” (April 7, 2018 at 4:32 pm)
At least for now, “Tannehouser” seems to have climbed off that li’l “hatewagon” shtick of his, but remains stuck in the Hasbara “ECHO chamber” (April 8, 2018 at 1:04 pm) and (April 8, 2018 at 8:47 pm)
“WC” clearly suffers from Hasbara troll dementia characterized by constant meaningless repetition of the phrases “End Game”, “Bigger Picture” and “odds” to distract the conversation whenever Israel is mentioned.
Other Hasbara propaganda troll behaviors exhibited by “WC” and “Tannenhouser” include melodramatic claims that the trolls’ oh-so-important messages are somehow being “moderated”, “deleted” or otherwise suppressed by the nefarious “overseeers” they imagine running “this site”.
Consortium News readers are alert to these Hasbara propaganda tactics.
Nonetheless, Hasbara hilarity ensues with so much Israeli-Saudi-U.S. Axis warmongering in the news.
Abe. If you are allowed double posts so am I.
Haha. Spoken by the guy NOT on moderated status who apparently can get away with calling anyone anything! Must be nice there, Abe, not to suffer from having your posts delayed and subsequently disjointed, let alone disappear altogether. It is also telling that whenever you go on one of your Hasbara troll rants it is invariably empty of any substance. This is really rather stunning when you can literally hit the ball out of the park when you are not so obsessed. You are one of the best character studies I have had in ages. :) :)
The latest hilarious propaganda shtick for Inverted Hasbara (false flag “anti-Zionist”) Hasbara trolls “WC” and “Tannenhouser” is loudly moaning about “censors” and “censorship”.
Comment Policy at Consortium News clearly states:
“because of annoying SPAM, we have installed a SPAM filter that uses algorithms to detect SPAM. The filter does a good job at this, but sometimes catches legitimate comments by accident. During the day, we try to recover these comments, but please do not be upset if one of your comments suffers this fate.”
https://consortiumnews.com/2012/01/20/comment-policy/
At one time or another, many of us here at CN have encountered the “comment awaiting moderation” message due to the SPAM filter.
Unfortunately, “WC” and “Tannenhouser” suffer from severe persecutory delusions as part of the symptom profile of their Hasbara troll dementia.
The new favorite kvetch of “WC” and “Tannenhouser” is that their brilliant posts have been “deleted” by dark forces “trying to control the narrative”.
“WC” made a big puddle on the floor today when, lo and behold, a so-called “deleted” post (April 10, 2018 at 1:42 am) “actually appeared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” (Yes, that was twenty-one exclamation points.)
Needless to say, “WC” did not retract the Hasbara troll claim about “censors” as a result.
It’s non-stop troll hilarity from the Hasbara dementia duo of “WC” and “Tannenhouser”.
And we have all those hot steaming piles of “substance” dumped by Monsieur Wolf-Goat.
More empty hyperbole from Ol’ Abe. If he actually had something to say he would have replied to my post that “actually appeared!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Here’s a clip. If you want to have a conversation about the Real World there, Abe, we can start anywhere here. :)
As for what ideas I have “to combat the ruling elite and their nefarious actors” is tough to answer because I have yet to figure out what their overall game plan is. To listen to many on this site, it’s all got to do with the middle east. And while I agree the “Big Club” is very active in the middle east, I am hard pressed to see this as anything more than just a tactic toward a bigger objective. The “bigger objective” would be solving the ongoing financial crisis and historic debt. And the only way that can be done is on a world-wide scale to stop the boom and bust cycles that are the real engines of capitalism. So, if they are going to change the global financial system they need to change the global political system to go along with it. Now we are entering into some seriously dangerous territory because, as we all know, the “Big Club” is only in this for themselves!
Yet, when I ask the question – what is the End Game? – “no one seems to notice, no one seems to care. That’s what the owners count on. The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue (deleted) that is being jammed up their (deleted) every day, because the owners of this country know the truth. It’s called “The American Dream” because you have to be asleep to believe it.” (good old George left us way too soon). ;)
As for the liberal idealists, I told an old joke that was deleted that I will try again. It goes – If Hitler had surrendered after WW2 and hired a half-dozen really good lawyers he probably would have got off on a technicality. This old joke has a lot of implied truths about how the Real World works. And the Real World, with its seriously flawed species, is nowhere near abiding by the absolute truths of the perfect world. Don’t hope for it. “The table is tilted folks. The game is rigged”. :)
“Is that a grotesque enough evasion for you?” – George Carlin.
In the latest efforts to “defend Israel”, Hasbara troll army sockpuppet “WC” grotesquely quotes Carlin
https://blog.codinghorror.com/content/images/2015/04/obvious-troll-is-obvious.jpg
As Carlin told his audience during his last HBO stand-up special, aired live on March 1, 2008:
“It’s all bullshit, and it’s bad for ya.”
Now I’m worried. Ol’Abe (who ranks as one of the sharpest minds on the Consortiumnews) didn’t call me crazy. He didn’t tell me I was wrong or contradict a single point I made.
All we got was the usual word avalanche that basically says – Don’t steal my thunder! Don’t divert attention from my obsession! You are a Troll!!!
How Israel addresses “security concerns”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=74&v=EjTkJIPKj80
Senior Israeli officials went out of their way to defend the behavior of the soldiers caught on video laughing and cheering. Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman told reporters that he celebrated the shooting: “The Gaza sniper deserves a decoration, and the photographer a demerit.”
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-israel-palestinians-sniper-video/israeli-army-vows-disciplinary-action-over-gaza-sniper-video-idUKKBN1HH234
According to the Israeli Army, the soldier who recorded the shooting was not part of the unit that fired on the unarmed protester and now faces punishment for “unauthorized filming” and “distribution” of the video. The banter and comments heard on the recording, the army said, “do not suit the degree of restraint expected of IDF soldiers and will be dealt [with] by commanders accordingly.”
Meanwhile, Hasbara trolls online bleat about “bleeding hearts” .
To inform new readers here at CN, here’s what’s going on with Hasbara propaganda troll “WC”:
“WC” popped back up out of the hole on March 23rd, the day after “1000 percent” Israel Firster Trump announced his appointment of rabid pro-Israel warmonger John Bolton as as National Security Advisor.
What follows are the initial March 23rd posts from “WC” and my responses, alerting CN readers of the troll’s history of Hasbara propaganda posts to “defend Israel”.
From the CN comments for Nicolas J.S. Davies’s March 2018 article, “How Many Millions of People Have Been Killed in America’s Post-9/11 Wars? – Part One: Iraq”:
WC
March 23, 2018 at 7:18 pm
I come back to this site after a 4 month hiatus and the first article I read is followed by the same bunch of commentors still obsessed with troll armies and Zionist conspiracies. Sad.
Abe
March 24, 2018 at 12:19 pm
Hasbara troll “WC” is baa-aaack. Big surprise.
Four months ago, Conventional Hasbara (overtly pro-Israel / pro-Zionist) propaganda troll “WC” was busy telling us that Apartheid Israel is “in control”, insisting that “racism is subjective”, and complaining that there is entirely “too much emphasis on this one issue”.
See the hilarious Hasbara antics of comrade “WC” in the CN comments here:
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/11/26/the-dark-inevitability-of-zionism/
WC
March 24, 2018 at 3:26 pm
Consortiumnews has a comment policy that expressly forbids “racial or religious slurs (including anti-Semitism and Islamophobia)”. Now, were I to use the same kind of offensive language you and others regularly hurl at Zionist Jews and Israel, but rather directed towards blacks, Hispanics, native Americans or any other ethnic minority, that would be considered inappropriate.
As for being a troll or a Zionist, I am neither. All I have done from the getgo is to try to impart on you morally elitist idealists that power (in this world) comes out of the barrel of a gun. Mao and Stalin said that, but could have come out of the mouth of any American president or any other political front man or woman.
And while I commend your efforts to right the wrongs and push for a better world, keep in mind all of the greedy opportunists, sociopaths and organized psychopaths that comprise the “Big Club” that owns this planet. When you have that thought firmly in mind, what are your realistic odds of success? So, you’d better come up with a better plan of action because moral platitudes (which are entirely subjective) will get you nowhere. :)
Abe
March 25, 2018 at 1:06 pm
Hasbara troll “WC” is back spouting the same propaganda boilerplate as four months ago.
Comrade “WC” offers up the usual litany of Hasbara propaganda memes, and couldn’t even manage to make it through the second sentence without straight up lying.
As a Jewish American, not once have I ever used racist or offensive language in comments here at CN.
I am not offended by strong but fair criticism of Jews in America or Israel.
I’m not afraid of fact-based analysis of the actions of Israel or the pro-Israel Lobby here in the United States.
What I do unequivocally reject is the stream of fake “anti-Semitism” posted by Inverted Hasbara propaganda trolls attempting to smear the Consortium News site.
Conventional Hasbara (overtly pro-Israel / pro-Zionist) propaganda works in tandem with Inverted Hasbara (false flag “anti-Israel” / “anti-Zionist” and fake “anti-Jewish” / “anti-Semitic”) propaganda in ever more desperate efforts to “defend Israel” with a firehose of falsehood.
Zionist terrorist violence embraced the delusion that “power” comes “out of the barrel of a gun”.
A violent and fundamentally racist ideology, reinforced by constant propaganda, terrorizes Jews living in Apartheid Israel and abroad with the ominous specter of a “new anti-Semitism” and a “second Holocaust”.
Of course, many Jews in Israel and abroad reject racist Zionist ideology and its vile propaganda.
In today’s Apartheid Israel and in the United States, Jews committed to social justice are rejected as “morally elitist idealists” by the Zionist fanatics and gun-toting “settlers” who illegally occupy more and more Palestinian land.
Now these fanatics are getting really desperate, attempting to “secure the realm” by provoking direct military confrontation with Russia.
Effective action starts with accurate information. That’s why Consortium News is such an important resource, and deserves our continuing support (and vigilance) as readers and contributors.
And that’s why the Hasbara troll army is so busy with disinformation, distraction, dissuasion, and hilariously desperate efforts to smear this site.