The evidence is plain—there was a broad, coordinated effort by the Obama Administration, with the help of foreign governments, to target Donald Trump and paint him as a Russian stooge, writes Larry Johnson
By Larry C. Johnson
Sic Semper Tyrannis
The preponderance of evidence makes this very simple–there was a broad, coordinated effort by the Obama Administration, with the help of foreign governments, to target Donald Trump and paint him as a stooge of Russia.
The Mueller Report provides irrefutable evidence that the so-called Russian collusion case against Donald Trump was a deliberate fabrication by intelligence and law enforcement organizations in the United States and the United Kingdom and organizations aligned with the Clinton Campaign.
The New York Times reported that a man with a long history of working with the CIA, and a female FBI informant, traveled to London in September of 2016 and tried unsuccessfully to entrap George Papadopolous. The biggest curiosity is that U.S. intelligence or law enforcement officials fully briefed British intelligence on what they were up to. Quite understandable given what we now know about British spying on the Trump Campaign.
The Mueller investigation of Trump “collusion” with Russia prior to the 2016 Presidential election focused on eight cases:
- Proposed Trump Tower Project in Moscow
- George Papadopolous
- Carter Page
- Dimitri Simes
- Veselnetskya Meeting at Trump Tower (June 16, 2016)
- Events at Republican Convention
- Post-Convention Contacts with Russian Ambassador Kislyak
- Paul Manafort
One simple fact emerges–of the eight cases or incidents of alleged Trump Campaign interaction with the Russians investigated by the Mueller team, the proposals to interact with the Russian Government or with Putin originated with FBI informants, MI-6 assets or people paid by Fusion GPS, and not Trump or his people.
There is not a single instance where Donald Trump or any member of his campaign team initiated contact with the Russians for the purpose of gaining derogatory information on Hillary or obtaining support to boost the Trump campaign. Not one.
Simply put, Trump and his campaign were the target of an elaborate, wide ranging covert action designed to entrap him and members of his team as an agent of Russia.
Let’s look in detail at each of the cases.
THE PROPOSED TRUMP TOWER PROJECT IN MOSCOW, according to Mueller’s report, originated with an FBI Informant–Felix Sater. Here’s what the Mueller Report states:
“In the late summer of 2015, the Trump Organization received a new inquiry about pursuing a Trump Tower project in Moscow. In approximately September 2015, Felix Sater . . . contacted Cohen (i.e., Michael Cohen) on behalf of I.C. Expert Investment Company (I.C. Expert), a Russian real-estate development corporation controlled by Andrei Vladimirovich Rozov. Sater had known Rozov since approximately 2007 and, in 2014, had served as an agent on behalf of Rozov during Rozov’s purchase of a building in New York City. Sater later contacted Rozov and proposed that I.C. Expert pursue a Trump Tower Moscow project in which I.C. Expert would license the name and brand from the Trump Organization but construct the building on its own. Sater worked on the deal with Rozov and another employee of I.C. Expert.” (see page 69 of the Mueller Report).
Sater: FBI informant
Mueller, as noted previously, is downright dishonest in failing to identify Sater as an FBI informant. Sater was not just a private entrepreneur looking to make some coin. He was a fully signed up FBI informant. Sater’s status as an FBI snitch was first exposed in 2012. Sater also was a boyhood chum of Michael Cohen, the target being baited in this operation. Another inconvenient fact excluded from the Mueller report is that one of Mueller’s Chief Prosecutors, Andrew Weissman, signed the deal with Felix Sater in December 1998 that put Sater into the FBI Informant business.
All suggestions for meeting with the Russian Government, including Putin, originated with Felix Sater. The use of Sater on this particular project started in September 2015.
[For more on Sater please see my previous posts, Felix Sater–The Rosetta Stone for the FBI/CIA Conspiracy Against Trump?, Felix Sater and the Steele Dossier.]
GEORGE PAPADOPOLOUS
Papadopolous
Papadopolous was targeted by British and U.S. intelligence starting in late December 2015, when he is offered out of the blue a job with the London Centre of International Law and Practice Limited (LCILP)?. The LCILP has all of the hallmarks of an intelligence front company. LCILP began as an offshoot from another company?—?EN Education Group Limited?—?which describes itself as “a global education consultancy, facilitating links between students, education providers and organisations with an interest in education worldwide”.
EN Education and LCILP are owned and run by Nagi Khalid Idris, a 48-year-old British citizen of Sudanese origin. For no apparent reason Idris offers Papadopolous a job as the Director of the LCILP’s International Energy and Natural Resources Division. Then in March of 2016, Idris and Arvinder Sambei (who acted as an attorney for the FBI on a 9-11 extradition case in the UK), insist on introducing Joseph Mifsud to Papadopolous.
It is Joseph Mifsud who introduces the idea of meeting Putin following a lunch in London (from Papadopolous’s book “Deep State Target: How I Got Caught in the Crosshairs of the Plot to Bring Down President Trump”):
“The lunch is booked for March 24 at the Grange Holborn Hotel,. . . . “When I get there, Mifsud is waiting for me in the lobby with an attractive, fashionably dressed young woman with dirty blonde hair at his side. He introduces her as Olga Vinogradova.” (p. 76)
“Mifsud sells her hard. “Olga is going to be your inside woman to Moscow. She knows everyone.” He tells me she was a former official at the Russian Ministry of Trade. Then he waxes on about introducing me to the Russian ambassador in London.” (p. 77)
“On April 12, “Olga” writes: “I have already alerted my personal links to our conversation and your request. The embassy in London is very much aware of this. As mentioned, we are all very excited by the possibility of a good relationship with Mr. Trump. The Russian Federation would love to welcome him once his candidature would be officially announced.”
And it is Mifsud who raises the possibility of getting dirt on Hillary:
“Then Mifsud returns from the Valdai conference. On April 26 we meet for breakfast at the Andaz Hotel, near Liverpool Street Station, one of the busiest train stations in London. He’s in an excellent mood and claims he met with high-level Russian government officials. But once again, he’s very short on specifics. This is becoming a real pattern with Mifsud. He hasn’t offered any names besides Timofeev. Then, he leans across the table in a conspiratorial manner. The Russians have “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, he tells me. “Emails of Clinton,” he says. “They have thousands of emails.”
Here again we encounter the lying and obfuscation of the Mueller team. They falsely characterize Mifsud as an agent of Russia. In fact, he has close and longstanding ties to both British and U.S. intelligence (Disobedient Media lays out the Mifsud mystery in detail).
Mifsud: Ties to UK intelligence. (Flickr)
Mifsud was not alone. The FBI and the CIA also were in the game of trying to entrap Papadopolous. In September of 2016, Papadopolous was being wined and dined by Halper (who has longstanding ties to the U.S. intelligence community) and Azra Turk, an FBI Informant/researcher (see New York Times).
The FBI disingenuously claims they ran Azra Turk at Papadopolous because they were alarmed ostensibly by Russia’s attempts to disrupt the 2016 election. But Papadopolous was not seeking out Russian contacts. He was being baited. It was Mifsud and others tied to British and U.S. intelligence who were bringing up the “opportunity” to work with the Russians.
CARTER PAGE
The section of the Mueller report that deals with Carter Page is a total travesty. Mueller and his team, for example, initially misrepresent Page’s status with the Trump campaign—he is described as “working” for the campaign, which implies a paid position, when he was in fact only a volunteer foreign policy advisor. Mueller also paints Page’s prior experience and work in Russia as evidence that Page was being used by Russian intelligence, but says nothing about the fact that Page was being regularly debriefed by the CIA and the FBI during the same period. In other words, Page was cooperating with U.S. intelligence and law enforcement. But this fact is omitted in the Mueller report.
Page: Cooperated with US intel.
Mueller eventually accurately describes Page’s role in the Trump campaign as follows:
“In January 2016, Page began volunteering on an informal, unpaid basis for the Trump Campaign after Ed Cox, a state Republican Party official, introduced Page to Trump Campaign officials. Page told the Office that his goal in working on the Campaign was to help candidate Trump improve relations with Russia. To that end, Page emailed Campaign officials offering his thoughts on U.S.-Russia relations, prepared talking points and briefing memos on Russia, and proposed that candidate Trump meet with President Vladimir Putin in Moscow.
“In communications with Campaign officials, Page also repeatedly touted his high-level contacts in Russia and his ability to forge connections between candidate Trump and senior Russian governmental officials. For example, on January 30, 2016, Page sent an email to senior Campaign officials stating that he had “spent the past week in Europe and had been in discussions with some individuals with close ties to the Kremlin” who recognized that Trump could have a “game-changing effect . .. in bringing the end of the new Cold War. The email stated that ” [t]hrough [his] discussions with these high level contacts,” Page believed that “a direct meeting in Moscow between Mr. Trump and Putin could be arranged.”
The Mueller presentation portrays Carter Page in a nefarious, negative light. His contacts with Russia are characterized as inappropriate and unjustified. Longstanding business experience in a particular country is not proof of wrong doing. No consideration is given at all to Page’s legitimate concerns raising about the dismal state of U.S./Russia relations following the U.S. backed coup in the Ukraine and the subsequent annexation of Crimea by Russia.
Page’s association with the Trump campaign was quite brief—he lasted seven months, being removed as a foreign policy advisor on Sept. 24. Page was not identified publicly as a Trump foreign policy advisor until March of 2016, but the evidence presented in the Mueller report clearly indicates that Page was already a target of intelligence agencies, in the U.S. and abroad, long before the FISA warrant of Oct. 2016.
While serving on the foreign policy team Page continued his business and social contacts in Russia, but was never tasked by the Trump team to pursue or promote contacts with Putin and his team. In fact, Page’s proposals, suggestions and recommendations were either ignored or directly rebuffed.
The timeline reported in the Mueller report regarding Page’s trip to Russia in early July raises questions about the intel collected on that trip and the so-called “intel” revealed in the Steele Dossier with respect to Page. Carter admits to meeting with individuals, such as Dmitry Peskov and Igor Sechin, who appear in the Steele Dossier. Page’s meetings in Moscow turned out to be innocuous and uneventful. Nothing he did resembled clandestine activity. Yet, the Steele report on that visit suggested just the opposite and used the tactic of guilt by association to imply that Page was up to something dirty.
The bottomline for Mueller is that Page did not do anything wrong and no one in the Trump Campaign embraced his proposals for closer ties with Russia.
DMITRI SIMES
Dmitri Simes
The targeting and investigation of Dmitri Simes is disgusting and an abuse of law enforcement authority. Full disclosure. I know Dmitri. For awhile, in the 2002-2003 time period, I was a regular participant at Nixon Center events. For example, I was at a round table in December 2002 on the imminent invasion of Iraq. Colonel Pat Lang sat on one side of me and Ambassador Joe Wilson on the other. Directly across the table was Charles Krauthammer. Dmitri ran an honest seminar.
The entire section on Dmitri Simes, under other circumstances, could be viewed as something bizarre and amusing. But the mere idea that Simes was somehow an agent of Putin and a vehicle for helping Trump work with the Russians to steal the 2016 election is crazy and idiotic. Those in the FBI who were so stupid as to buy into this nonsense should have their badges and guns taken away. They are too dumb to work in law enforcement.
Dmitri’s only sin was to speak calmly, intelligently and rationally about foreign policy dealings with Russia. We now know that in this new hysteria of the 21st Century Russian scare that qualities such as reason and rationality are proof of one’s willingness to act as a puppet of Vladimir Putin.
TRUMP TOWER MEETING (JUNE 9, 2016)
This is the clearest example of a plant designed to entrap the Trump team. Mueller, once again, presents a very disingenuous account:
“On June 9, 2016, senior representatives of the Trump Campaign met in Trump Tower with a Russian attorney expecting to receive derogatory information about Hillary Clinton from the Russian government. The meeting was proposed to Donald Trump Jr. in an email from Robert Goldstone, at the request of his then-client Emin Agalarov, the son of Russian real-estate developer Aras Agalarov. Goldstone relayed to Trump Jr. that the “Crown prosecutor of Russia … offered to provide the Trump Campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia” as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” Trump Jr. immediately responded that “if it’s what you say I love it,” and arranged the meeting through a series of emails and telephone calls.” …
The Russian attorney who spoke at the meeting, Natalia Veselnitskaya, had previously worked for the Russian government and maintained a relationship with that government throughout this period oftime. She claimed that funds derived from illegal activities in Russia were provided to Hillary Clinton and other Democrats. Trump Jr. requested evidence to support those claims, but Veselnitskaya did not provide such information.”
Natalia Veselnitskaya (Wikimedia)
Ignore for a moment that no information on Hillary was passed or provided (and doing such a thing is not illegal). The real problem is with what Mueller does not say and did not investigate. Mueller conveniently declines to mention the fact that Veselnitskaya was working closely with the firm Hillary Clinton hired to produce the Steele Dossier. NBC News reported on Veselnitskaya:
“The information that a Russian lawyer brought with her when she met Donald Trump Jr. in June 2016 stemmed from research conducted by Fusion GPS, the same firm that compiled the infamous Trump dossier, according to the lawyer and a source familiar with the matter.
In an interview with NBC News, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya says she first received the supposedly incriminating information she brought to Trump Tower — describing alleged tax evasion and donations to Democrats — from Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS owner, who had been hired to conduct research in a New York federal court case.”
EVENTS AT THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION
This portion of the Mueller report is a complete farce. Foreign ambassdors, including the Russian (and the Chinese) attend Republican and Democrat Conventions. Presidential candidates and their advisors speak to those ambassadors. So, where is the beef? Answer. There isn’t any. That this “event” was considered something worthy of a counter intelligence investigation is just one more piece of evidence that law enforcement and intelligence were weaponized against the Trump campaign.
POST-CONVENTION CONTACTS WITH RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR KISLYAK
Ditto. As noted in the previous paragraph, trying to criminalize normal diplomatic contacts, especially with a country where we share important, vital national security interests, is but further evidence of the crazy anti-Russian hysteria that has infected the anti-Trumpers. Pathetic.
MANAFORT
Manafort at 2016 RNC Convention. (Wikimedia Commons)
If Paul Manafort had rebuffed Trump’s offer to run his campaign, he would be walking free today and still buying expensive suits and evading taxes along with his Clinton buddy, Greg Craig. Instead, he became another target for DOJ, the intel community and the DNC, which were desperate to portray Trump as a tool of the Kremlin. Thanks to John Solomon of The Hill, we now know the impetus to target Manafort came from the DNC:
The boomerang from the Democratic Party’s failed attempt to connect Donald Trump to Russia’s 2016 election meddling is picking up speed, and its flight path crosses right through Moscow’s pesky neighbor, Ukraine. That is where there is growing evidence a foreign power was asked, and in some cases tried, to help Hillary Clinton.
In its most detailed account yet, Ukraine’s embassy in Washington says a Democratic National Committee insider during the 2016 election solicited dirt on Donald Trump’s campaign chairman and even tried to enlist the country’s president to help.
In written answers to questions, Ambassador Valeriy Chaly’s office says DNC contractor Alexandra Chalupa sought information from the Ukrainian government on Paul Manafort’s dealings inside the country, in hopes of forcing the issue before Congress.
Manafort was not colluding, but the Clinton campaign and the Obama Administration most certainly were.
Take these eight events as a whole a very clear picture emerges—U.S. and foreign intelligence (especially the UK) and U.S. law enforcement collaborated in a broad effort to bait the Trump team with ostensible Russian entreaties in order to paint Trump as a tool of the Kremlin. That effort is now being exposed and those culpable will hopefully face justice. This should sicken and alarm every American regardless of political party. Will justice be served?
Larry C. Johnson is a former CIA analyst and counterterrorism official at the State Department. This article first appeared on Sic Semper Tyrannis.
“Papadopolous was targeted by British and U.S. intelligence”
“Targeted”? Are you sure? What if instead Papadopoulos was an integral part of it all along. I urge you to read these articles documenting the high likelihood that that’s exactly what happened:
“Poor, Pitiful, Persecuted Papadopoulos-the-Pure and the Four Femmes Fatale”
https://chaletbooks.com/chaletreports/?p=2988
“CIA Crimes: How John Brennan Weaponized the CIA and FBI, and Conspired with Russia and Harry Reid to Frame Trump—PART A”
https://chaletbooks.com/chaletreports/?p=1362
Total bullshit. Papadopolous was a nobody. He was not a witting participant in this plot. He was targeted.
Those articles lay out documented fact after documented fact that build a very compelling case that Papadopoulos was a mole, wittingly working with Western intelligence operatives to manufacture phony “Russian collusion” to smear Trump with.
As counterpoint, you simply declare that he was not in on it, and insist he was a victim who was “targeted.” That seems more like personal bias that refuses to look at the facts, to me.
Right. Papadopolous was a mole? Ostensibly lied to the FBI in order to be charged with lying to a Fed and then goes to jail with a felony conviction? What kind of aluminum foil are you wearing? This is beyond stupid. You are being spun and are too stupid to realize it.
One bright spot is that Trump’s fealty to the Russians may mean that we won’t invade , bomb, allow Eric prince to invade, or otherwise physically molest Venezuela…
Weird…anyone know what Trump’s lawyer Rudi “9/11″Gulliani has been up to in Ukraine as of late? Cuz ya know, it tends to go counter to the pro trump narrative being pushed here on Consortium News.
He canceled his trip. So he has been up to nothing in Ukraine. there is, however, an investigation going on, in Ukraine, regarding Joe and Hunter Biden.
The first paragraph of this article : Yeah, We all knew from the get go, this is not new.. Carter Page made things clear years ago and drew a line in the sand . He was completely confident of exoneration. That Corporate Media kicked this story to the curb did not make it go away. Everything was contingent upon the Mueller Report proving collaboration between the Russians and the Trump Campaign and then the Department of Justice first putting a coat of primer on the story and then completely whitewashing things. This was a Hail Mary Pass . I’m not talkin’ a Brady to Gronk pass here., they were never even in the Playoffs. . ” So What”. So much for Democracy and that is appropriate since Trump’s Administration is acting like an Empire and projecting power at all levels thereby forcing a world reaction. We all know that the Europeans are weak but the Russians and Chinese are not. In the medium run this would seem to accelerates the demise of Pax American. I see the Democrats with an own goal here. Kind of like getting rid of Nixon so Ronald Reagan could become President instead of GW Bush or better yet Gerald Ford. . Hey, if they asked me I would have counseled a different course. They didn’t.
I highly recommend this interview by former Intel Officer Tony Shaffer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITvnDtuRIgM
This discussion wouldn’t be complete without a Craig Murray link and his commentary is as excellent as it is here.
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/05/the-real-muellergate-scandal/
Thanks for the link Bob. Craig Murray nails it again.
Papadopoulos was first targeted when he worked for the Carson campaign. The spying was obviously much broader. Bongino is killing it on his podcast.
Two corrections:
Carter Page in his testimony before the House Intelligence committee said he had never met Igor Sechin. He said that he saw Dmitry Peskov in an RT studio and “nodded” at him, but never spoke or otherwise interacted with him.
Great reporting, thank you.
There is one facet in this entire dirty scheme that gets overlooked: a number of the actions by the Dems and the FBI served for the exclusive purpose to force Trump to fire his best campaign managers and secretary of defense and other persons in his campaign and presidency:
The Dems were afraid Trump would win with Manafort as his campaign manager, and acted to force Trump to fire him just as earlier, one of his managers who turned out to be effective, was besmeared by a reporter of having forced her to fall when she clearly didn’t, just to besmear Trump as being a mysogenist.
The same was done to Flynn, who was in favor of good relations with Russia. Flynn really didn’t do anything wrong other than to endanger the Dem’s agenda to topple Putin. In the same vein, Bannon and two other of the more populist advisors who wanted a more peaceful conduct for the US, got eliminated by the earlier chief of staff Kelly until he got fired himself.
The same repeated with AG Barr, who is clearly a threat to the entire Dem cabal, but hasn’t been successfully far despite shameful congressional inquiries during Barr’s testimony.
Looked at in tandem with the Russiagate accusations and Mueller’s investigations, it is obvious that this entire web of lies and repeated attempts at entrapment of Trump employees was constructed by Clinton in complicity with not just the FBI and CIA, but with the DNC and the entire deep state, to either oust, impeach or incarcerate Trump and, if that didn’t work, to force him and corner him into continuing Obama/Bush’s agenda against Russia.
Sadly, Trump fell for it and the US policies which he pursues are the same now as always: hegemony with regime change wars to keep the MIC in control of the entire US economy.
Excellent interview here with Aaron Mate and his father Gabor on the psychology of the mass hallucination we call Russiagate. Same as Consortium News, Aaron was out in front of the propaganda snow machine calling the hoax like it is from its inception.
http://opensociet.org/2019/05/08/america-in-denial-aaron-and-gabor-mate-on-the-psychology-of-russiagate/
Thanks, O. Great interview on the psychological underpinnings of Russiagate and its consequences with two lovely human beings, father and son Mate’.
Fantastic interview; The elder Mate could be me over the past many years in his arguments and discussions, descriptions of our political system and the psychological underpinnings of our actions and thoughts.
The truth about American and foreign Intelligence agencies did, indeed, interfere in both the 2016 Presidential election and the Mid-term Congressional elections just last November. Russia’s Intelligence agencies never interfered, but Britain’s did.
Fortunately, MI5 and MI6 failed to get Hillary Clinton into the White House in the 2016 elections. Had Hillary won, the world would’ve been totally destroyed in a 3rd World War with China, Russia, and Iran.
Both of these British Intelligence agencies are hostile to POTUS Donald J. Trump, and they don’t hide it. They can’t control him like they could his predecessors going back to LBJ.
The entire Mueller investigation is a smoke screen for the crimes of a cabal of people (of which Clinton, Biden and even possibly Obama by association are a part) that engaged in “pay to play” over many, many years. The Mueller report could have been completed in 6 months, insteadt it took 22 months and was released, after Barr’s appointment and AFTER the mid-terms, when its conclusions would have supported the Republican vote. This is not a coincidence, the report is a political document that walked the tightrope between DNC interests and those of “fair play” to the POTUS.
The “smoke screen” has diverted attention from the criminality of the cabal that engaged in all sorts of nefarious activity during the DNC infiltration of important federal agencies, from State, through Justice and housing etc. You need only to think about why Clinton instructed Bleachbit to violate a subpoena instructing the the persevration of all State emails by using “a cloth”, to now that soemthing is seriously wrong. Factor in the activities of Wasserman-Schuz and the Awan brothers ad then factor in ACTUAL collusion with Russia by Obama and Clinton and the DNC cabal is guilty of collusion and obstruction of justice (remember also how Bill got half a million for a short speect in an event in Moscow sponsored by a Kremlin owned bank and, of course, his tarmac antics). The smoke screen consisted of the classic tactic of “projection” of a criminals crimes onto his rival. Hopefully, those guilty of starting the smoke screen are not the last to face the consequences of breaing the law and the activities of the crime cabal over the prior 10-15 years are also investigated, before we all get bored with the confirmation of political criminality. Just because a poltical party has control of the DoJ and DoS, does not mean that these agencies become the tools for organized crime.
Trump is a “loose cannon”. This whole Mueller investigation was an attempt to “control” him. It worked. Got the Neocons back in power and fed The War Machine very well.
It seems important that this exchange between John Patrick Ward and this article’s author Larry Johnson not get buried in the comments, so (subject to editorial discretion) here it is again.
A further word to the wise: be careful quoting from Wikipedia. The site has shown a decided slant on numerous occasions, Craig Murray had an epic battle going on with a particular “so-called” Wikipedia editor during the height of the Skripal ‘Affair.’
As an aside, does anybody else begin to ponder the notion of a British gulag hiding in plain sight?
James Patrick Ward
May 7, 2019 at 10:24
Beginning in 2007, Larry C.Johnson emerged as a strident opponent of Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.[2] His rapid swing from the left to the right earned him the enmity of former allies.[2] According to The New York Times, Johnson is “best known for spreading a hoax… in 2008 that Michelle Obama had been videotaped using a slur against Caucasians”.[1] His blog, NoQuarterUSA, often criticized Obama’s qualifications to be president. On May 16, 2008, Johnson posted an item entitled, “Will Barack Throw Mama From the Train?” which alleged that a tape existed of Michelle Obama “railing against ‘whitey’ at Jeremiah Wright’s church.”[13][1] Johnson claimed that Republicans were in possession of the tape and it “is being held for the fall to drop at the appropriate time.” In a subsequent post, Johnson claimed that Obama’s appearance had occurred when she was on a panel with Louis Farrakhan. He also explained that he himself had not seen the tape, but had spoken with “five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape.”[14] The Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website denied the rumor, saying, “No such tape exists. Michelle Obama has not spoken from the pulpit at Trinity and has not used that word.”[15]
No tape was ever released, nor has any other evidence emerged of Obama using the word “whitey”. On October 21, 2008, Johnson said that, according to one of his sources, the McCain campaign “intervened and requested the tape not be used.”[16]
War crime accusations against John Kerry
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In 2013, Johnson falsely accused John Kerry of war crimes in Vietnam, alleging that Kerry had “raped some poor Vietnamese woman.”[17] To support his claim, Johnson used a YouTube video[18] that contained audio clips from a 1971 debate on The Dick Cavett Show between John Kerry and John O’Neill. The original interview[19] audio[20] was altered to piece together words that Kerry spoke at different times during the debate, falsely making it sound as if he said, “I personally raped for pleasure.” When the falsehood was exposed by a reader of Johnson’s blog, Johnson deleted the article without apology.[21]
Allegations that British intelligence wiretapped Donald Trump
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In March 2017, Andrew Napolitano spread the unfounded conspiracy theory that GCHQ, one of Britain’s top intelligence agencies, had wiretapped Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign on orders from President Obama.[1][22] Johnson was the source for Napolitano’s claim.[1][23] The conspiracy theory was later asserted as fact by President Trump, with him citing Fox News and Napolitano.[1] GCHQ responded, stating that the claims were “nonsense, utterly ridiculous and should be ignored”.[24] Fox News later disavowed the statement by Napolitano.[1] See More at Wikkipedia.
Larry Johnson
May 8, 2019 at 09:19
James,
You’ve been taken in by the Media Matters smear machine. First, with respect to the Whitey Tape. I got that information originally from DAVID BROCK of Media Matters. I was steered to BROCK by Sid Blumenthal. I was used, unwittingly, to smear the Obama’s by the Clinton Campaign. I’ve written extensively on this matter but no one wants to examine Brock and Blumenthal.
The War Crime thing on Kerry is total bullshit. There was a video circulating at the time with the specious claim about Kerry. I did not initially realize it was specious. I put it up on my blog for about 3 hours. Once I realized it was a fraud I took it down.
At the Brits. I was right and remain right on this. If you would simply be intellectually honest and examine the facts of my article you would stop being a mindless mouthpiece for those trying to cover this up.
Thank you, David Otness, for bringing this comment by James Ward and the response from Larry Johnson, author of this article, closer to the top of the comment thread.
It needs to be highlighted, clearly, just as you have done.
I am unable to determine the truth concerning Mr. Johnson’s individual clams but I do take from it the determined efforts to stop détente between Russia and the US. If people die because of their sabotage, their deaths are on their heads. Certainly the major media is part of this effort by making any effort by the Trump Administration to engage with Russia appear to be a crime.
Starting with Flynn, he was nailed not on talking to the Russia but the fact that he was caught lying to the FBI. But it was clear that the real crime was not misleading the FBI but talking to Russia.
Always thought Trump’s failure to defend Flynn was weakness or bad advice or both.
Obstruction of justice, the major hook by law enforcement when there is no proof of a crime. If in fact Trump knew he was not guilty he might well turn to looking to stop a politically damaging vendetta. Might call it obstruction of injustice. That seems to be what the Democrats are about.
It is comment threads such as this which continue to convince me that the community of interest that congregate at Consortium News, is among the most well informed, most well read, and most diligently committed to critical thought and analysis, along with most articulate, with both wit and wisdom as us to be found anywhere.
The combination of a site totally committed to exposing truth and an attendant community of individuals equally committed to seeking (and sharing) that truth, and the implications of what such truth must reveal, usually of great consequence, results in a space quite unique in this time of unresolved and,too often, unexamined existential crisis, well on the way toward calamity or catastrophe for the entire human species.
As we watch, have watched, for decades, U$ policy, foreign and domestic, choose domination, bullying, and destruction of the rule of law, of civil rights generally, and of any pretense of democracy all devolve into a Klepto Dismal ideology, it is islands of sanity, and the occasional oasis of reason, that make this life journey feel like a bit more than an increasingly bad trip down Machiavellian Lanes, where other humans seem to be living in realms Socrates would have considered most worthy of examination.
Those who struggle merely to survivethey are not the sleepwalking servants of empire, it is the “educated” who prefer the manufactured lies, such as “Russia did it”, who see nothing wrong with military empire, which they often deny even exists, nor with destroying the capacity of the web if life to support their existence, so long as their vanity and consumerist hungers are fed, they are not bothered that “education” turns the young into serfs, for their own “meritorious” offspring will, with full “legacy” advantage be propelled ever upward, to heights where failure and deceit are rewarded with further honor, acclaim, and wealth. The “too big to jail”, the “nice guys” who sit down on Tuesday to decide who will be killed on Wednesday, those who devise “sophisticated psychological” torture programs that will, inevitably, be blamed on a few bad apples, while those who oversaw such programs and destroyed evidence OF the programs now run intelligence agencies. War criminals are pardoned, some to rise again in positions to destroy nations and human beings with cavalier indifference and a fine reception at Big Bank receptions, often with huge “appreciation” fees for services rendered.
Then, of course, there are the “opinion-shapers” those well-paid mouthpieces of corporate media.
On the subject of money, look how much goes to murder and mayhem? And still they jockey for more.
The public is told, “Everyone hates us for our freedoms!”
Duct tape and plastic.
A cashless society.
Facial recognition at every toll booth.
Tell me, when did the people become the enemy of the government?
Tell me, when was the government sold to the highest bidder?
And what “branch” of government approved the sale?
What “branch” dispensed with the law and simply appointed the next president who had the good fortune to become a “wartime president!”, when a certain “event” … “changed everything”?
Changed everything and was claimed as the “exceptional moment” that ended any pretense of the rule of law, which has been replaced with an empty “form” of “law”, which acknowledges no bounds or limits, no process or need of evidence or even motive, but requires only empty assertion and a media most happy to amplify, for money, any and every idiotic assertion that the owners, the PTB, wish broadcast.
My appreciation to all who dare stand against the madness, the mayhem, the murder, and the myths.
(This has been a test, merely to see if new comments have been posted since last I looked. ; -)
The US government was “sold to the highest bidder” gradually after the War of 1812 as the founders died out, economic entities grew in the 19th century, and the ebulliently rising middle class declined to regulate economic influence upon elections, mass media, and the judiciary. Thus the people lost those tools of democracy, and with the consolidation of the MIC/Intel/WallSt/Israel/KSA powers after WWII democracy was lost forever.
Indeed with our new Democracy™ we have only “an empty “form” of “law”, which acknowledges no bounds or limits, no process or need of evidence or even motive, but requires only empty assertion.” Same for mass media and elections. We must await national disaster as a precondition of the restoration of democracy.
Might u summarize, please?
Might “u” become more receptive to a deeper introspection?
Doubtful.
DW Bartoo, great analysis. To those who might think it was overly long, I would reply that just about every line had something to tell us.
Thank you, sir.
The sea of madness is temporarily becalmed.
Sociopaths feeding on power projections from psychopaths.
Such is our contemporary leadership defined. And perhaps our terminal flaw as a species as technology continues to be within our reach, but as ever, not within our grasp
Ah, but you see, the Founding Fathers were exactly the people you describe.They wanted to take power from the British for the People. People like themselves. Labor was a commodity to be bought and sold. What better way to ensure their legacy than to fix in place a constitution that would remain frozen in time.
The Iranians in the 2009 elections had a period where the losers of the election challenged the legitimacy of the election which was potentially very dangerous. But it was cut short when Khamenei decided Moussavi et al had to put up or shut up. Either they had to show the proof that the elections had been stolen or they had to shut up. That was a healthy decision.
In the US the whole electorial process is being corrupted and the debate about the legitimacy of the presidency is allowed to drag on till the next election. That’s not even about the truth of the claims or whether that would be a reason for worry (Putin has an evil plan to reduce tensions between the US and Russia).
You need a very high threshold before starting such commisions of inquiry.
Thank you for this piece of work exposing the corruption of significant elements of the Democratic Party (“Clinton wing”) which used intelligence agencies and other government elements to x-out a sitting president. It is important to add that this writer was vehemently opposed to the candidacy of Donald Trump and is disappointed by his his incumbency as the Chief Executive of the United States of America. It distresses that good people, usually solid thinkers flinch, look away, and deny when the name Hillary Clinton emerges.
The fact of the matter (100%) is that the 2016 Presidential election was stolen by the “R”‘s.
The “R”‘s being the “Republicans,” not the “Russians.”
Voter ID was to allow Romney to win Pennsylvania.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o32tF-S6K60
Wisconsin Legislator Glenn Grothman claiming voter ID will help Trump win Wisconsin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOCLBljMXqI
From Mother Jones – up to 225,000 in Wisconsin don’t have a photo ID
https://www.facebook.com/motherjones/videos/1855953187767758/
https://www.prwatch.org/news/2017/09/13285/voter-id-suppressed-vote-exactly-wisconsin-republicans-predicted
https://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2018/09/voter-id-linked-to-lower-turnout-in-wisconsin-other-states-students-people-of-color-elderly-most-affected/
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/08/500927768/2016-presidential-election-results-for-each-state
Florida – Trump 49%, Clinton 48% about a 1% difference
Michgan – Trump 48%, Clinton 47% about a 1% difference
Pennsylvania – Trump 49%, Clinton 48% about a 1% difference
Wisconsin – Trump 48%, Clinton 47% about a 1% difference
The Photo ID laws in those states depressed the Clinton vote by more than the difference between Trump and Clinton
Then add to this Cross Check which purged hundreds of thousands of voters.
Greg Palast noted that in voter purges of “identical voters” the middle name / initial, birth date, social security number (if included) are not checked, one “Jim Brown” is ALL “Jim Brown”‘s.
Those in power did not want a full investigation into election fraud in the United States as it would involve them so limited Mueller into only looking at Russian interference, not Israeli interference, not British interference.
And as for those upset with American politicians accepting information from “foreign sources,” well, I guess American politicians should not watch BBC.
“Every country gets the government it deserves.” – Joseph de Maistre
“ That little punk, he never had to serve “ – Don Henley
A much better read is the current James Risen’s article on The Intercept.
Given Risen’s conduct and reputation, the Intercepts ownership by a tech oligarch, (what exactly is the difference between the Intercept’s ownership by the billionaire Omidyar, the ownership of the WaPo by the billionaire Bazos or the NYT by the billionaire Sulzberger. My answer very very little.) I have little confidence in their reporting. If any of these publications actually publish something accurate and informative it gets out to other more reliable outlets as well otherwise the Intercept is one of the best propaganda outlets of the Global Power Elite.
There is a large body of work, especially by Herbert Marcusa about how established power reaches out and incorporates/absorbs its opposition into itself.
Omidyar dumped $500,000 into Hillary/Nuland-Kagan’s Maidan Massacre.
Risen is risible.
The Intercept’s “crack source-protection team” got Realty Winner imprisoned.
The Risen article in The Intercept continues the notion the Russians hacked the DNC plus smears Barr and misleadingly avoids identifying Mueller’s own comment on “no collusion” as Barr’s. An apt comment seems to me follows this article by congratulating Risen on becoming The Intercept’s Rachel Maddow. But also, this kind of demonizing aside (which should always, automatically, be a red flag), Risen is doing his best to portray Mueller as “too narrow” and cautious overall, while venting mostly against Trump and moving the issue toward “obstruction of justice,” not the original thrust at collusion with Demon Vlad. A better article? Not unless you want more TDS frothing at the mouth.
One of the better articles on this American mystery story.
Trump Tower: Akmetshin was listed on the log visiting the Obama White House in Jan 2016. He then shows up as Russian atty Natalia’s escort to the Tower meeting in June 2016. He and Natalia speak English yet the Obama State Dept interpreter joined them. Several sources report Natalia met with Hillary’s agent Fusion GPS before and after the meeting. Natalia was given a special Visa by Mueller SC team member Preet Bharara against a State Dept Jan on Natalia, making Preet a witness on the Tower meeting he is “investigating”.
Papadopoulos on Twitter states Mueller falsified the date of the key meeting in the London hotel on May 10, 2016 with Aussie Downer. The Mueller false date inserted was May 6; by giving a false date Mueller obscures the fact that FBI spy chief Priestap was in London on May 9 the day before the hotel meeting. Priestap’s London sojourn is deduced from the combo of his testimony to Congress and from Strzok / Page emails “Bill (Priestap) is in London”.
Both Carter Page and PapaD would probably be willing to be interviewed and would help clarify some of the data you attempt to write about of their story.
One clue was overlooked early on. Not long after the 2016 election, the Clinton team shouted, “Russia stole the election!” The initial public response was a collective rolling of the eyes. After all, after each election, the side that loses blames someone/something other than themselves for the outcome. But media grabbed hold of the notion, and began creating their the Russian Tale. There was little effort to root out the truth — only to exploit the notion.
Didn’t you get the Memo Larry? Despite the underwhelming nothingburger Mueller Report & the overwhelming evidence that the US Intelligence Agencies, in cahoots with the MSM, Obama, HRC & the DNC, all interfered in the US Election, none of this really matters? The blame must be centred on RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA that did it! Who needs facts & evidence? We are America & can create our own reality, based on fabricated lies? I’ve never seen a Country such as the US of A that has such a victim mentality? Its always everyone else’s fault that America is a shambolic basketcase on the precipice of Imperial collapse? Its always either another Countries fault such as Russia or China, or the Syrians, Iranian’s or Venezuelan ‘s fault? Or Socialism or any other “ism” you can come up with? Thats a real cowardly, delusional attitude to have, blaming everyone else for your own incompetence & without self examination by looking in the mirror & owning your own stuffups & mistakes? Trump is another sorry example of blaming others for America’s corrupt practices? Although its patently obvious that massive attempts have been & continue to be made to sabotage Trump’s Presidency & remove this bipolar clown from office, judging by World events, it needs to happen because this POTUS is a dangerous idiot that must be stopped? Trump, with the troika of tyranny of Pompouspeo, Revolton Bolton & Crazy Abrams are heading America into to either a new Cold War or WW3 in which they would not win!
With all respect to these obvious revelations,one can find many of your listed examples and names proof that the US Election was stolen.
The most `suitable stooge`available was Trump (GW Bush) by one of the sleaziest – slimiest which would profit MOST of all of > Israel !
Pulleeeze. What nonsense. Donald Trump was NEGOTATING A REAL ESTATE DEAL for his DECADES-LONG Dream of a TRUMP TOWER MOSCOW while he campaigned for president. NO U.S. intelligence agency FORCED Trump to say “Russia, if you’re listening find the 30,000 Hillary emails.” If Trump is the “innocent pawn an Obama-based conspiracy to entrap him as a Russian asset” then, WHY THE CONTANT LYING & Obstruction of the Mueller investigation???
Look I think there’s been WAY TOO MUCH obsession over alleged “meddling by Russia” in the 2016 election & think that it’s dangerous to talk of an “Attack by Russia on our democracy”. It’s also hypocritical, in light of the LONG history fo U.S. COUPS & OVERTHROWS in other countries’ elections–the most recent one being VENEZUELA.
The BIGGEST Assaults on Our Democracy are HOMEGROWN: domestic in nature by right-wing forces & the spineless Corporate Democrats who enable them to : gut voting rights, perpetrate voting machines that are NOT secure (or accurate–rampant “vote flipping” has been noted since 2004 election), massive PURGES of Voter Rolls that TARGET Black & Latinx voters, Voter ID laws that discriminate against Black, Latino & college students. On & on… (& of course, the Big Picture of BIG MONEY in U.S. political campaigns & CORPORATE MEDIA telling us who the “credible” and “Electable” candidates REALLY are).
Burt, to act like “Russiagate” is a total nothing burger/Obama-entrapped-Trump scenario is not only inaccurate–it’s a dangerous play that HELPS TRUMP. I despise Hillary Clinton & I’m glad she lost–but, that does NOT mean I’m glad Trump won. He’s been a very DESTRUCTIVE TOOL for the Far Right, for Corporate Power & policies that are HURTING a lot of people. He’s also a wannabe dictator, which ought to be enough to NOT help him get a second term
Lydia, good comments
Actually, pretty stupid comments.
In a nation governed by laws, everyone gets due process.
Especially the unpopular or even execrable. It is for those people that we have a concept of due process in the first place.
So whatever Trump has done since the election is irrelevant.
It is WEIRD that this idea seems alien to you.
So, very emotional comments that do not advance any rational discussion or investigation of what happened and who did what and when and who paid for it.
Russiagate IS a nothingburger, just as Birthergate was a dozen years ago. Team X can’t admit to losing an election because of its own mistakes, so it invents a fantasy fiction about a conspiracy, to soothe wounded vanity. In fact, nothing important changes,whether Team X or Team Y wins.
By pretending that RussiaGate was not an Intelligence Agency psy-op, you are helping the Deep State, and it will never make any difference who is president. Your TDS has you in a brain fog.
Why is “Russia, if you are listening, find Hillarys 30,000 emails.” a crime and not a just a cynical joke? It is no different than what late night comedians say everyday. Should comedians be thrown in jail for their thought crimes?
As far as I am aware, the first amendment is still the law of the land.
I agree! Trump is a consummate example of the stereotype ‘joi-zee’ rich-kid scammer, with NO refined tastes and a crass casino pit-boss personality, a true ugly-American boor, but using some flippant remark he made on the campaign trail as supposed support for collusion with Russia is just a ridiculous stretch. I have WAY less of a problem with that than with (for instance) ‘St Ronnie’s’ open-mike ‘humor’ about ‘In ten minutes we start bombing Russia’ (I don’t recall the exact words that idiot said) — talk about a possible misunderstanding possibly creating a tragedy of biblical proportions.
Lydia, thank you very much for your well-reasoned comments. It always disturbs me greatly when I see pieces like this because Consortium has always been a place to get factual info without partisan spin. This article is too partisan sounding to me, especially when noting the background of the writer. There is SO much wrong with both factions of the ruling elites in this country who are so very deeply corrupt, that it physically hurts just to watch the spectacle from “both sides of the aisle” day in and day out. I have had enough of Russiagate and now this, Spygate or whatever they choose to call it. If any of you movers and shakers out there are listening, PLEASE stop with all the nonsense you drama queens are spouting and start dealing with the needs of the American people for affordable healthcare, good public education, slowing down ecocide, and in general, seeing to the WELL-BEING of our own populace instead of destroying anything that moves in other sovereign lands. Cheers, Lydia. And thanks again!
[This article is too partisan sounding to me, especially when noting the background of the writer.]
Thank you ML for not allowing yourself to stoop so low as to pointing out any ACTUAL factual inaccuracies in the article, but rather nobly limiting yourself to a vague aspersion of partisanship.
Seems to me the confusion lies in conflating Trump doing business deals (and problems thereby, including his lying about it) with Trump working hand in glove with an evil Putin to “fix’ the 2016 election. This vast and supid oversimplification has been going on (and fostered) for years in terms of ANY contact with Russia means automatically there is dirty dealing from the Kremlin to twist into US politics. No, we need to resist this oversimplification. The Mueller thing devolved from Clinton’s loss as a diversion, more and more obvious, for various corruptions problems with Clinton’s affairs, including the campaign, which are still being largely ignored. There was no Evil Vlad at Trump’s elbow. But then any attempt to point out this distinction lands on: “you’re helping Trump.” No, the focus is on the propaganda smearing of Trump as a distraction from other matters. This does NOT mean anyone seeking to clarify on this distinction is in favor of Trump and his continued ineptitude. It means for once we’d like some truth to come out of government instead of all the manipulation, equally being shared at this time by BOTH wings of our sorry and broken-down System.
I agree with you, hetro. I am just tired of hearing these investigations drone on and on and on. I have been in agreement that Russiagate was a sham from the beginning. Trying to convince most so-called liberals of this has been a fruitless endeavor. I am not conflating Trump’s sly business deals with anything but what they are- sly, often illegal deals in violation of the emoluments clause. I think the man is seriously despicable. So was his nemesis, the snake-headed Hillary. But I am sick of never-ending discussions of all of this in our press and as well as on many decent sites like the stellar CN. I’d like to focus on urgent matters at hand like war, ecocide, and improving our lives as Americans. But that is too much to ask in this highly partisan environment. Peace to all the great commenters here.
Yes, we absolutely, badly, need to move on–this point directly relates to how Russia-gate has been a monstrous distraction from what we need to concentrate on. But we have a struggle still to continue to challenge the official bullshit which continues on and on masking the reality of a government in thrall to a plutocratic governance. The problem also lies in trying to understand how materialism + propaganda can pretty much neutralize the critical thinking skills of too many of us. We are after all a primitive species. We have been overlain with BS for so long now the question is whether we can ever dig out from under the mountain of it.
Thank you for responding in such a kind and thoughtful way, hetro. I am shocked I got name-called by the author of this piece further down this thread. It doesn’t reflect maturity on his part. I have been a stalwart defender of CN and all the anti-Russian propaganda for several years. It is disheartening to have ad hominem attacks against people who voice any concern whatsoever about partisanship. We must stand united to defeat the many malevolent forces in our corrupt duopoly. It’s our only hope. Robert Parry I doubt, would approve of Larry Johnson’s ugly comment. Peace.
But the worst assaults on US democracy are certainly not all “domestic in nature by right-wing forces &… Corporate Democrats” as one cannot ignore the fact that the top ten HRC “donors” were zionists (and the majority of their “donors” over 500K) as well as the largest “donors” to their “foundation” along with KSA. While the economic powers that supplanted our former democracy are diverse, it is plain that Russiagate was invented to conceal IsraelKSAgate, as well as the influence of MIC/WallSt that usually “donate” more to the Repubs.
Its not illegal to do business in Russia and everyone knew Trump wanted a Trump Tower in Moscow and what not?
The Stelle dossier was compiled from top Russian government officials so while Trump was “talking” Hillary was working with Russia
Literally
The Emails proved Hillary was a criminal and stole the nomination from Sanders those are just facts
Not only that they used the bogus unsubstantiated dossier to illegally spy on the trump campaign and lied to the FISA court to do it.
Thats sedition and far worse than any crime Trump committed
Hillary is why we have Trump .No other reason.
Howard Schultz has over 100 Starbucks in Moscow alone, but I’m sure Mueller and his army of Lawyers and FBI agents and admins (~100 total) vetted this, just as he would have vetted Greg Craig and the Podesta Group who worked in the slime of Ukrainian corruption with Manafort. Otherwise this becomes just partisan political theatre and another Act is coming (Republicans are vindictive!)
If the Kremlin was involved at all with the disinformation of the fake dossier which initially, briefly gave credence to Russiagate, Hillary and her minions have helped Russia “sow discord” and deliberately interfere with the Federal government. That is Sedition.
I don’t think the Russians were ‘really’ involved (no more than usual background noise of which I’m sure the NSA is aware.) The destruction of the DNC computers (classic Hillary– “no evidence = no crime”), the dependence on Crowdstrike and Dmitri Alperovitch, a Russian working with ? the Awan brothers? Fusion GPS? My guess is New Knowledge; seems very likely after pretending to be Russians and interfering with the Alabama Senate race (did anyone go to jail for that), New Knowledge may have pretended before complicit with the DNC (indeed that seems their business model to get government grants). VIPS’ data and Seth Rich are worth re-examining in detail. Of course DC is about nepotism and pay-to-play and no one connected will pay a price. They are all above the Law. Braying ass Trump is an Outsider; that is his sole failure in the Establishment’s eyes and he has to be removed.
Nothing really new in this article although of course ignored by the CIA-controlled MSM, but some good details in the comments.
Michael:
“….. ass Trump is an Outsider; that is his sole failure in the Establishment’s eyes and he has to be removed.”
That is the eye of the needle! Going further I personally believe that DT didn’t ever expect to be elected president! He was so angry with his embarrassment by the President Obama at the Washington DC annual “media party” that he vowed to run then and there but was totally gob-smacked when he actually won. Of course he won because the Dems proferred a most despicable candidate that believed the world owed her the presidency. There is a reason that DT was elected: too many Americans were/are sick and tired of the “Washington Two-Step”…….and will try the system before the pitchforks.
“..the “Crown prosecutor of Russia … ”
Would he be a functionary, left over from the USSR charged with keeping an eye on the Romanovs?
““It’s very transparent what his agenda is,” said Michael Carpenter, a former adviser to Vice President Joe Biden and a top Pentagon official for Russia and Ukraine in the Obama administration. Carpenter said that while Simes positions himself as a pragmatic foreign policy realist, “he is completely pro-Kremlin and always has been.”..”
In terms of the five year long crisis in the Ukraine to be pro-Kremlin is perfectly consistent with pragmatic foreign policy positions.
“Mueller, as noted previously, is downright dishonest in failing to identify Sater as an FBI informant.” Sater was also a mobster.
This isn’t altogether surprising since Mueller was arguably in bed for much of his career with New England’s Irish organized crime family, the ultra violent Winter Hill Gang.
The older I get the more I start to wonder if the only honest section of a bookstore is the “True Crime” section.
Obscure question: What does one make of the socializing of Robert Mueller and David McCallum? Mueller merely a fan of McCallum’s fiction writing abilities?
I much appreciate analysis of the Mueller Report, as we have here, and would add that, aside from attempts to cast doubt on Larry Johnson’s integrity in the remarks below, the analysis itself is more important. And that analysis clearly offers support to the Mueller Affair (reports on, rumors of, the report itself, efforts to continue the scare tactics) as a heavily politicized event which has cast a stain on, and lack of clarity with, a strictly factual investigation by the nation’s intelligence agencies.
One of the most dramatic indications of this is the failure of Mueller to identify Slater as a former FBI agent and what his connection to that agency has been recently. In short, we increasingly see buttressing to the impression Mueller has also been functioning as a political tool versus a purely investigative tool. As to attempts to impugn the author in the comments below, I wonder why this indirection is included, without any links, and with no effort to evaluate what is said in this article.
I also echo DW Bartoo’s comment that a problem with the site currently is the length of time it takes for comments to clear, which then delays and interferes with efforts at discussion.
Somewhat off topic, a valuable addition to the discussion can be found at:
https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/07/gabor-mate-russiagate-interview-transcript/#more-8099
Here Aaron Mate discusses with his father Gabor Mate psychological implications of the collusion fiasco. (There is a transcript.) It’s an interesting discussion related to how fear and paranoia feed over-reaction, although I would also have liked to see promptings to that very paranoid type of response as a propaganda tool to prepare a nation for military events and further war.
Let’s examine the network of interwoven Intel agencies throughout the world today, a brief summary:
The Turkish Prime Minister Adnan Menderes was hanged. He threatened to eliminate the contraband trails meandering through Turkey (controlled and organized by the CIA and Turkish Mafia)
Olof Palme, sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and confrontational with many U.S. policies and tried in vain to stop the Iran-Iraq war, further he was an avid Cuba-supporter, -assassinated.
In 2003, Swedish Foreign Minister Anna Lindh was stabbed while shopping She was widely seen as a credible candidate to Olof Plame’s office.
The Baader-Meinhof gang, formally known as the Rote Armee Fraktion (Red Army Faction, In 1977 abducted,and eventually murdered, Hanns Martin Schleyer, a representative of the West German upper middle class, an operation done by Gladio (CIA) operators. Ditto, Italy’s Aldo Moro abduction and assassination
Brabant Supermarket Massacres Belgium (Gladio-CIA) motivated by a “commie” threat in Europe
Lyndon B. Johnson, that “senator from the Pentagon” sheds additional light on Gladio, when told the Greek ambassador in the U.S. that the ongoing civil war in Cyprus required the partition of Cyprus. I quote him here (it’s on the record):
“Then listen to me Mr. Ambassador. Fuck your parliament and your constitution. America is an elephant. Cyprus is a flea. Greece is a flea ASIDE: ask the Goldman Sachs clique! If those two fleas continue itching the elephant, they may just get whacked by the elephant’s trunk, whacked good. We pay a lot of good dollars to the Greeks Mr. Ambassador. If your Prime Minister gives me talk about democracy, parliament and constitution, he, his parliament and his constitution may not last very long. . . . Don’t forget to tell old Papa – what’s his name – what I told you. Mind you tell him, you hear. ” Does this sound familiar to you, CONSORTIUMNEWS readers? an echo perhaps of many, equivalently arrogant, statements made subsequent to LBJ’s pronouncements?
As a CIA front Aginter Press of Lisbon Portugal, made it their task to indulge in murderous activities wherever it was necessary, ANYWHERE in the world. Again I paraphrase it here, from the expert on CIA activities, Ganser; Therefore Aginter operatives, including American Jay Sablonsky, together with the CIA and US Green Berets Special Forces participated in the notorious Gautemalan counter-terror of 1968-1971. Ditto, operatives were present in Chile in 1973 and were involved when CIA ousted Allende and replaced him with right wing dictator Augusto Pinochet.
Prime Minister Adnan Menderes of Turkey, circa 1960 a CIA directed coup using the Gladio network, followed by a show trial and then hanging, in effect his murder…
CIA, Counter-Guerilla, the Grey Wolves, and their link to an Assassination Attempt on Pope Paul II. A strong connection exists between the CIA controlled Grey Wolves and members of Counter-Guerilla with this assassination attempt on May 13, 1981
These examples are but a sliver of the many, many, many direct “interference’s” by one of our U.S. official government agencies into the politics and government and consequently those elections held in western Occident and southern hemisphere countries.
Why do we not hear these revelations from the MSM? It seems remarkable that Mueller’s report has been taken at face value and people aren’t picking it apart and asking why, for example, any of these obviously colluding parties didn’t appear in the report.
You were doing fine until you claimed that Russia annexed Crimea. Russia did no such thing. Ukraine and Crimea were merely in the same oblast.
Think of this fiasco in more basic terms. The purpose of the Mueller investigation was to determine if there was evidence that Russia somehow manipulated the 2016 election. There wasn’t. What did come out of the investigation was a long list of indictments, several convictions to date, for perjury/financial crimes. Not political crimes. Nevertheless, party loyalists are compelle3d to continue spinning the tale.
The bottom line to the 2016 election: Most votes come down to eco0nomic issues. Democrats split apart their own voting base in the ’90s, middle class vs. poor, and the Obama years confirmed that this split is permanent. How did people think that would turn out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FtpcXXgOEM
Mr. Lauria,
The fact that a news service in Europe used the term “annexation” in a headline hardly means anything — especially since this is a specialized concept in international law.
And this item currently featured on their Web site should make you a bit suspicious:
https://www.euronews.com/2019/05/09/russian-disinformation-may-have-reached-241-million-europeans-report-says
Euronews is part of the disinformation orchestra.
But Mr. Harrison’s remark about what oblast Crimea is/was in is just as irrelevant.
What happened was not an annexation, but a secession (OK, apparently encouraged and assisted by the Russian Federation) legitimized by a huge majority in a popular referendum, followed by a request by Crimea to accede to the RF.
Connect the dots to form a very clear picture….Remember it’s always about “profit & market share”
Obama’s legacy
Obama’s rush to push the ultra secret TPPA
Multinational Corporations big winners of agreement
Big Pharma and MSM share the same bed on Wall St/City of London
MIC and MSM multinational investors at the profit roundtable
The goons (Multinational Intel Agencies) that clear the way for the continued profits for the den of thieves
2015, 2016, We introduce Donald Trump the “wild card” who just might disturb the flow of profit and market share away from the den of thieves that enjoyed 8 years of Obama.
Which brings us all the way back to “The Obama Legacy”
Which brings
Appreciate the circularity of the logic, more like a spiral.
Don’t forget vanity and blood lust.
Major Mueller Report Omissions Suggest Incompetence Or A Coverup
“false claims that the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia would qualify as a “principal way” in which Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election.
Mueller’s second major oversight – which we have touched on repeatedly – is the special counsel’s portrayal of Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud as a Russian agent – when available evidence suggests he may have been a Western agent.
Weeks after returning from Moscow, Mifsud – a self-described Clinton Foundation member – ‘seeded’ the rumor that Russia had ‘dirt’ on Hillary Clinton with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos on April 26, 2016, according to the Mueller report.”
So we have -at least- 4 major omissions in the Mueller investigation and report:
1) the Mueller report failed to consider whether the dossier authored by former MI6 spy Christopher Steele was Russian disinformation (and Steele was not charged with lying to the FBI).
2) Mueller’s portrayal of Maltese professor Joseph Mifsud as a Russian agent – when available evidence suggests he may have been a Western agent.
3) Mueller declined to talk to the VIPS, who offered evidence that the DNC servers were not hacked but content was copied onto a disk at the server’s location
4) Mueller refused to hear Julian Assange, who offered evidence that it was not the Russians that had provided WikiLeaks with the emails.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-07/ilargi-mueller-never-wanted-truth
And it went all the way to the Top
FBI texts: Obama ‘wants to know everything we’re doing’
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna845531
They were spying on Trump before the election and found nothing
Lisa Page bombshell: FBI couldn’t prove Trump-Russia collusion before Mueller appointment
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-couldnt-prove-trump-russia-collusion-before-mueller%3famp
And it was Fusion GPS that worked with the Russians not Trump
That’s sedition
To my knowledge, Russia wasn’t involved at all. Consider something: The US had achieved supremacy/domination in the Western world from the end of WWll until the Reagan/Clinton era. We’ve been recognized internationally as a declining world power for some years now. In short, we just aren’t that important anymore. Remember that the Soviet government and economy had collapsed a short time ago, in the 1990s. Russia has remained solidly focused on rebuilding their country/economic system, while protecting its borders and international interests — not on petty US party politics.
I remember a televised interview with Putin during the 2016 campaigns, when he was asked if he “supported” Clinton or Trump. In diplomatic terms, he pointed out that either one indicated heightened international tensions, but hoped for the best. He was right. It appears that the more the US deteriorates economically and socially, the more those in power (both parties) seek a Glorious War, WWlll, with visions of emerging from it victoriously — parades, confetti, and all.
Russian government officials were involved in the Steele dossier…….thats the only Russia collusion that can be proved.Putin had no part .
The FBI had informants like Sater and Halper infiltrating the Trump campaign and set up Popodopulus and Cohen etc….and why?Because Trump wanted to work with Russia and get out of wars as Gen Flynn did.The deep state wasnt having any f it.
Contrary to others, I’m quite confident Obama was a willing/knowing partner.
He always revered our intelligence apparatus and the spin of Empire.
His ill-advised placing of the missile shield in Romania (2016)illustrates well his fealty to our StrangeLoves as well as did his massive build-up of arms in the ex-Soviet Satellites.
I am very concerned with this sad chapter of deep-state normalization and the blowback that shall ensue.
Yes, his JCPOA was a great step.
Yet, his lip-service to climate change, while shepherding the pipelines and helping the US become 2013’s World’s Foremost Exporter of Fossil Fuels was a sad event.
Ditto with the TPP taking peoples rights to protect the environment in courts (disgusting)..
Sold twice the arms and had military ops in twice the countries as did Dubya.
He certainly doesn’t deserve a pedestal.
I contend that he helped pave the way for Trump.
Thank you for this relevant summation.
Clark M—
“JCPOA”…? Huh? Wha?
But yeah. You nailed his (Obama’s) legacy. A cypher, a conceited doppelganger who seemed to fancy himself as a laurel-crowned, imperially toga-robed dancer on polished marble floors of yore.
An utterly consummate duplicitous fraud in Empire’s service.
Re: my acronymic ignorance in the above comment:
Whoops! Busted! I decided to go to comments first as I felt a lively and informative conversation would be underway. I was right about that.
I had started to read this from Ray’s posting of it and saw it elsewhere too, but figured as I was already having some info-overload I’d give it a couple of days before diving in.
The charges-countercharges resonating in the monkey house are increasingly cacophonous and in the meantime (these mean and stupidity-laden times) Trump’s Troika of Twisted Twits are continuing to sword-rattle all over the world even as U.S. citizens are under violent but not yet lethal siege defending the elected popular Maduro government’s VZA’s U.S.embassy in D.C.; even as malicious and murderous mischief continues to be perpetrated by U.S. Intel / Goldman Sachs goon squads unhindered by Congressional oversight all over the world. and now the IDF makes its grand entrance into the western-southern hemisphere with 1000 troops to take advantage of the Mossad’s groundwork.
Hey, folks, this is significant. A paradigm shift while we are “busy” elsewhere.
I hesitate to engage in too much U.S. internal navel gazing at this time while Pompeo and Bolton in particular are free to roam about the world leaving old brushfires smoldering while lighting off new ones wherever they “touch down.”
Now now, without the JCPOA it might have been really difficult for them to curtail Iran’s nonexistent nuclear weapons program.
Yes, Obama gave us Trump (signed the Patriot Act and the AUMF, for starters.) People say well, he did one great thing…the JCPOA. What they haven’t read is the Brookings institute’s detailed plan, “What Path to Persia,” wherein it follows a diabolical plan to first make the nuclear deal with Iran (making the US look wonderful), then when the Iranians break the deal, the US (egged on by Israel) can attack Iran, having established a perfect false flag. Problem is, Iran never broke the agreement. The US did. Now that Iran has realized the JCPOA was a farce to begin with, they are free to do what they wish (which by the way does not include nuclear weapons…they decided against that in 2003, but with John Bolton, Israel, etc. screaming in Trump’s ear, the US will again attack an innocent,sovereign country. The US, unlike Russia, Cuba and Venezuela, has no moral compass whatsoever.
Absolutely true, Clark. Trump is indeed Obama’s legacy and his “gift” to beleaguered Americans. So sorry I fell for his line in 2008. But lesson learned. Now I won’t ever again trust anyone who runs from either party. Sorry state of affairs, but enjoy the spring sunshine. Though a Green at heart, that has been beyond disappointing as well, with all their infighting. Sigh. Probably will not vote in the next presidential election- especially if they trot out Biden, I certainly won’t bother re-registering to vote in our closed primary. Like Carlin said, “If you vote for any of those cocksuckers, it’s YOUR fault- don’t blame me, I didn’t elect them; I stayed home!”
It “seems” Larry may be a fraud within himself.
And has an axe to grind for some reason?
I am not impressed with his powers of observation and reporting. This site dedicated to Robert Parry most often posts more professional articles.
However. “Assuming ” Larry is correct.
Then I am disappointed that the FBI failed to rid the planet of Donald Trump.
Im glad Trump rid the planet of Hillary….only Hillary Clinton could cheat and lose to her own hand picked pied piper.
Don’t forget the Strategic Pivot to Asia, meant to punish the Chinese people for being prosperous and not being submissive.
Yes, tom, HRC is vile. But you are happy about the mess that is Trump? Both need to be flushed into the sewers where they belong. Sigh. He isn’t great and he isn’t making American great, either. America lost her cachet, her patina, her pizzaz, and most importantly, her honor, a long, long time ago. Trump has accelerated America’s decline.
Trump is a symptom Hillary was the disease.
So you miss the wars and coups and genocides of Hillary?
Russia gate started another cold war with Russia based on lies and propaganda and they ignored real problems for 3 years.
Trump is a symptom and whatever you want to think about him he did want peace with Russia and N Korea and to get the USA out of the wars in Afghanistan and Syria…..and democrats Russia gate forced him into the arms of the neo cons.
Democrats are already pushing Biden ie Hillary 2.0 and you think Trump is the problem?
You think Trump would be in Venezuela if he was working with Putin?And why Venuzuala?…..so Bolton can get his war with Iran .You think any of that happens if not for Russia gate?
What did I just say, tom? I’ve already said she was a sociopathic liar. Can’t stand either one of them. Do you love watching Trump skewer Venezuela, a sovereign nation that has a right to govern themselves as they see fit without coups, sanctions, and us stealing their resources? Or is it just bad when a Democrat does it? To hell with the lot of them! And you are letting him off the hook with your Bolton comment. He didn’t have to hire the likes of Pompeo and Bolton, tom. Trump is in it evil and deep; don’t kid yourself. No difference in governance between the two parties that I can see.
You are a pathetic twit. Try dealing with the facts I present. You are acting like a frightened ostrich.
No need for ugliness, Larry. Just proves to me you shouldn’t have articles on this site, if you cannot tolerate disagreement. I am neither pathetic nor a twit. Be nice; can you at least try? Moderator? Are you listening?
ML-
If you follow the link, his reply was to Cal Lash. I personally believe Larry Johnson has added some much needed information regarding the connections of several people to our and Britain’s “Intelligence” Agencies.
And for Cal to be sorry that the FBI failed to rid us of Trump is pretty pathetic in my opinion as well. And I am no fan of Trump.
Oh, thank you Skip, for clearing it up. I wish though, that Larry had not responded with ad hominem attacks. The world is mean enough already without lashing out at commenters (pun intended). You are right, wishing for the FBI to have “gotten Trump” is misguided. It’s just plain scary right now with Pompous Maximus and Bolton raging ‘round the planet from Iraq to the Arctic to Venezuela, spreading bellicose words hither and yon. I am frightened, but I am anything but an ostrich, if Larry did intend his insults to me. Anyone who reads CN regularly can’t be accused of putting their head in the sand. Thank you for writing me. It made me feel better. I am sure Larry is a good person at heart. We all get frustrated at times.
ML-
You are correct that Larry violated policy with his ad hominem attack on Cal Lash. I must confess I have been guilty of the same in the past. My better nature doesn’t always win out.
If you look at the totality of Cal Lash’s comments, they are all of short duration, without any reasoned argument, and in support of the MSM propaganda narrative. In my humble opinion, that is the description of a troll.
In particular, the notion that it is the role of the FBI to “get Trump” is beyond misguided. Cal is preferring that we have no democracy whatsoever, rather than fixing our democracy so we have better choices. I find this mindset particularly offensive, and see it on display with many a TDS impaired latte-sipper. Until we all clearly see that the root of our problem is Empire and Oligarchy’s complete subversion of our government, we have no hope for the future. Time is running out.
[It “seems” Larry may be a fraud within himself.]
It “seems” your strongest point may be innuendo.
[And has an axe to grind for some reason?]
As do you, it “seems.”
[I am not impressed with his powers of observation and reporting.]
I am not impressed with your “powers of observation” nor commenting.
[This site dedicated to Robert Parry most often posts more professional articles.]
Fortunately this site dedicated to Robert Parry most often have other much, much more insightful commenters than you.
PS. Yes, I have superficially parodied the superficiality of your comment.
I believe that several names in this article were changed to protect the guilty. Rather than Obama admin. it was demo entrenched Clinton leadership Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Hillary who hoped to distract attention from emails exposing their efforts to deny progressive candidates like Bernie Sanders a fair chance at being nominated. I expect most “foreign” influence was purchased by good old american sources. I don’t deny your evidence so much as I doubt your conclusions as to its meaning.
Agree.
That issue gets complicated, in some ways that many today don’t even recognize. The Clinton right wing effectively took over the Dem Party in the 1990s, and they continue to own it. Over the past quarter-century, much of the liberal media served to promote their (neoliberal) ideology and agenda. The B. Clinton administration split apart the Dem voting base, middle class vs. poor, and the Obama administration confirmed that this agenda is permanent. We continue to disregard the consequences.
By definition, there are no progressive Dem candidates. Political progressivism goes way back. It’s about building a better nation progressively, from the bottom up — legitimate relief for the poor at one end, firm restraints on corporate and financial entities. Some Democrats just use that word for marketing purposes today. Today’s Sen. Sanders is pragmatic. He used to claim support for democratic socialism, and as such, advocated for legitimate poverty relief programs. This doesn’t sell to post-Clinton Democrats, so Sanders dropped the issue by 2016. He campaigns to and for the more fortunate alone, the currently employed. This, of course, takes us back to the deep split in the Dem voting base.
He’s a bit of a Shakespearean comic character, Bernie. Vigorous on articulating the value and historical place of “socialism,” but mute on the points you raise. The cast of characters wanting, surely.
Has Consortium News a response to James Patrick Ward’s lengthy list of negative assertions regarding the author of this article, Larry C. Johnson?
I ask, not because I agree with Ward, and have serious issues with Wikipedia as an honest site, itself, my concern rather is that this could well (and all too easily) be pushed beyond issues of vetting the veracity of authors (I know very little about Johnson) published here, and be used to question or disparage Consortium News.
As Consortium News has close association with VIPS, of which Johnson is not a member, might its members assist Consortium News either to stand by the article and its declarations, or seek to put perspective around it in the context of presenting a variety of views around the known hoax that is “Russiagate”?
Likely, trying to ignore what has already seemingly begun to pique the interest of the internet, might not be wise.
It is difficult to know if Consortium News has already responded because comments take, and this is not a complaint but an observation, so very long to appear.
Ward does not appear to question Johnson’s declarations, directly, in this article, but rather seeks to impunge their veracity with allegations of previous deceits and misdirection.
Unfortunately, this is an often very effective means of calling everything an author asserts as of the same sort or intent.
“Impunge”
Would that be ‘impinge’ or impugn…?
Slip of the tip, or am I larnin’ a new word here?
I have heard some disparagement of SST (I didn’t know what it stood for) at Moon of Alabama.
I did read this piece by Larry C. Johnson—can’t recall where I read it. Maybe at SST.
He way of organizing the different “moving parts” of Russiagate looked useful to me.
But I too am unsure that his conclusion is justified.
That is, personally I think he is probably right. But are the argument and evidence strong enough to withstand a rigorous analysis by those with a vested interest in tearing it down? I cannot judge that.
When I saw it posted here my first thought was:
This must mean that Larry Johnson and this piece have been vetted by Consortium News.
My second thought was:
If this has not been vetted carefully enouigh it could hurt CN.
I believe that CN must be *extremely* careful to nurture and maintain its reputation by allowing only a small number of non-CN journalists to publish here. Such as Pilger, McGovern, Binney, Craig Murray, Max Blumenthal, and a few Brits such as Alistaire Crooke and Martin Sieff.
CN must really be careful. So, I look for CN editors to come out and reassure readers as to how this article and Johnson were vetted and how they ended up here.
Actually Larry Johnson is a member of VIPS.
Dear DW Bartoo,
Larry Johnson is one of the more experienced and active members of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. His meticulous analysis/striking conclusion in this Russia-gate-related article speaks for itself. And VIPS stands by it. Needless to say, his findings are unpopular, so it is hardly a surprise that he would come under immediate ad hominem attack. We all encounter that from time to time; we are used to it; it is part of the woodwork. We do not see ourselves as involved in some kind of popularity contest.
Larry’s findings are evidence based, and he has done his homework. In a perfect world, they would merit banner-headline treatment in Establishment media but, typically, they will be ignored because they undermine key parts of the “only acceptable narrative” on Russia-gate.
I found Larry’s fearless analysis so fact-based and relevant that I decided also to post it on my own website, raymcgovern.com, together with a few brief comments to provide more context, in order to give his article still more visibility. [[ See:
https://raymcgovern.com/2019/05/06/intel-and-law-enforcement-tried-to-entrap-trump/ ]]
In the past, Larry has been principal author of a umber of VIPS memos, notably this one on Iran [[ See:
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/21/intel-vets-tell-trump-iran-is-not-top-terror-sponsor/ ]] ,
As is typical of Larry’s “old-fashioned” approach to analysis, this VIPS Memo is also extremely well documented and relates to what Fanatics Fat and Skinny are still trying to adduce as a casus belli to “justify” attacking Iran.
Larry’s VIPS Memo on Iran takes strong issue with a key part of the evidence-free Zionist-cum-U.S. government narrative on Iran being the world’s foremost sponsor of terrorism. While this issue continues to be of very high current interest, we expect Larry’s and VIPS’ views to find neither ink nor air, since they are based on empirical data to which our the Zionist-influenced Establishment media is allergic.
Ray McGovern
The issue he addressed here remains of high interest
Thank you, Mr. McGovern. You and your VIPS colleagues provide a compass for many of us who are trying hard not to be bewildered and lost by the seeming complexity of characters and events.
Thank you for your response, Ray.
I had looked at the list of VIPS members published the other day, here at Consirtium News, and did not see Johnson’s name.
I have great respect for every member of your group and will happily include Johnson in that appreciation.
I quite agree that the issues he discusses are of immense interest and frankly, in this article confirm a number of my own suppositions and reaffirm my continuing interest in learning the roles of certain individuals in instigating and “authorizing” others.
DW
My appreciation to Consortium News, as well, for daring to tread where intimidation and self-imposed “rectitude” have seemingly had a cooling effect on the curiosity of certain other sites.
As I read, recently, that Facebook has hired Jennifer Newstead, one of the principle authors of the Patriot Act, as General Councel, I also appreciate Consortium’s willingness to host this comment line on site.
And Craig Murray just got booted from FarceBook:
“Tis the Season” as Julian Assange’s treatment by not-so-Great Britain’s judicial system attests:
https://robinwestenra.blogspot.com/2019/05/ambassador-murray-blocked-by-facebook.html
Might it be possible for Consortium News to do an article on VIPS and its members?
There are members of VIPS well known to me over a number of years.
However, as is evident from my comment about a comment which sought to undermine the credibility of Larry C. Johnson, I did not know and could find no listing showing that he has long been a member of VIPS.
I have long known of the work of, William Binney, Mike Gravel, James G Jatras, John Kiriakou, who I followed closely back on the now defunct Firedoglake, Annie Machon, who blew significant lids off Brit “intelligence” BS, Ray McGivern, of course, who long has spoken truth to power, Craig Murray, Colleen Rowley, and Larry Wilkerson who is often heard putting thoughtful and sane perspectives around the mindless military madness of the U$.
Many are familiar with the role VIPS has played in puncturing the swelling hoax of “Russia did it”, a tradition ably advanced by Larry C. Johnson’s article.
Yet, it would be useful, and very informative, were an article of the histories and efforts of the individuals and the many endeavors of the group itself, to bring truth to the public to be presented here.
Merely a suggestion.
Yet VIPS deserved a far wider appreciation and deeper respect from a general public little exposed to rigorous analysis and critical thought processes, both sorely lacking in the corporate and confirmation bias MSM.
The more knowledgeable are readers at Consirtium News, the more likely of truth vending its way into broader consciousness, for those who are really informed cannot help but slowly move understanding toward reason and sanity.
Thank you Ray McGovern for clearing up who Larry Johnson is. I was impressed by his analysis and agreed with his conclusions, not from some hard facts that I knew, but because I did read the report and found it full of inconsistencies, vague implications, lack of evidence, etc. However, the comments of a few critics did make me doubt about how far the DNC and the whole Clinton establishment had really gone. I did not vote for her in the primaries, I was a strong Bernie supporter, but did in the end because I knew Trump would be catastrophic for our country and the world. So your response has confirmed what I believed to be true since I have the utmost respect for the VIPS and your constant efforts to try and inform our sadly distracted public.
I am sorry to joke, but some misspellings are funny.
… a umber of VIPS memos, …
Because we should say /??mb?r/ rather than “yumber”, this spelling cannot be correct, so either “an umber” (a batch that lies in obscurity?) or “a number”. Note to moderator: please make a correction and do not post it.
Ray, thank you for your comments here and generally as part of the CN forum.
Much thanks, Ray, for the explanation.
As someone else said, the woods can be as bewildering as the individual trees.
No one is perfect and people have different viewpoints. I was worried because the first mention I heard of Johnson and SST was kind of negative. Glad to know that you and VIPS are on the same page with Johnson. I shall now send the Johnson piece to my email friends.
I`ll tell you who INTERFERED IN OUR US ELECTION—The State Of ISRAEL—–How ?—-They bought TRUMP—That`s how.—-
And AIPAC is trying to buy Congress–It`s all about the Benjamins– EH—
We Americans are to blame for Trump, no one else.
I reluctantly forced myself to try to read this, yet another breathless deconstruction of the complete collapse of any semblance of a “republic” or enlightened governance. All the while the “injured party” and the sub-human creatures he’s surrounded himself with push humanity closer to the point of no return.
Sorry Mr. Johnson, I didn’t make it past the first few paragraphs. I’m under no illusions that what passes for “government” is merely the vicious struggle between partisan factions to determine who is first at the hog-slopping trough. At no previous time have Frank Zappa’s words seemed so true: “Scab of a nation, driven insane.”
I will defend the tenure of Obama only in this: the JCPOA was a good thing, about the only good thing this god-awful shitty mess of a nation has accomplished in decades. Since Trump made no bones about his intent to scrap it, I wouldn’t fault Obama for efforts to try to defeat him, if that was his motivation. Of course HRC would probably have done the same thing, as she actively tried to derail it throughout the negotiations. And again, Frank the Prophet Zappa, echoes in my brain.
Agreed, as a stand alone, JCPOA was a (very) good thing. However, it was more than offset by the nuclear “modernization” program, which threw previous nuclear weapons agreements with Russia under the bus, making the net effect of the two (very) negative.
Puzzled why you had trouble with the first few paragraphs. While Johnson is all over the page, sometimes correct, sometimes a loose cannon (IMHO) in this case he gets it pretty much right. Any look into the characters involved showed some minor idots connected to the Trump campaign where not up to the caliper of the CIA/FBI agents attempting to set up Trump. There is NO hard evidence that this was NOT a Clinton/Obama admin driven sting attempt.
Had the attempt to get to the source of the leak/insider theft, the DNC woulf have allowed (and NSA insisted) on access to the DNC servers, and released the info (the seem to collect and archive 100% of all such communications). That issue, also generally circulating for some time (see the Symnamtec) in my FB link to the story NTY “finally published (by none other that a team which includes David Sanger). perhaps beacause of the Wired story? I have stopped updating my web page (after Oct 2002), briefly went to a blog, but now, much as I abhor FB, find it a fast convenient why to archive news.
(One needs to collect on “previous comments” to read the story line).
One of the older links goes to the NYT obit on Philip Agee (who LJ is on record as despising), where his fiend is quoted”
““He [Philip Agee] really, truly did not want to see anyone hurt,” said Mr. Wolf, the friend and co-author who carried on Mr. Agee’s work of exposing agents. “He wanted to neutralize what they were doing — the whole gamut, from fixing elections and hiring local journalists to plant stories all the way up to creating foreign intelligence services that became agencies of oppression.” https://nyti.ms/2vHeoDL
So I VERY much welcome this article.
Was it mentioned by Trump (or covered much by the MSM so that the public knows) that, eg
“From 1984 to 1990 Halper was chairman and majority shareholder of the Palmer National Bank of Washington, D.C., the National Bank of Northern Virginia and the George Washington National Bank. Palmer National Bank was used to transfer money to Swiss Bank Accounts controlled by White House aid Oliver North.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Halper#Business_(1984%E2%80%931990)
I also agree w/ Daniel Lazare that the Mueller report is reasonable, but spun every bit as much by Democrats (if not more?) than by Republicans.
Also :
Halper was once caught up in a scandal over allegations that he led an operation within the Reagan campaign to dig up information on Jimmy Carter. In 1983, The New York Times reported that
Halper was in charge of “an operation to collect inside information on Carter Administration foreign policy” that was “run in Ronald Reagan’s campaign headquarters in the 1980 presidential campaign.”
https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/stefan-halper/
It would very much depend upon what Obama did, had he made efforts to defeat Trump, as you just realize, vinnieoh.
Had Obama made use of intelligence agencies, had he been party to attempts to influence FISA with bogus evidence, or had he suggested that the FBI, for example, not bother with examine the DNC computers to defeat Trump … well, as you can imagine, vinnieoh, that would constitute very serious and very possibly “high” crimes against the nation.
Until there is proof of such behavior, all there is is assertion, suspicion, or even money to be made selling a hoax to the public, especially where the media so inclined.
Such a hoax itself, would be a crime.
Like claiming that a nation had weapons of mass destruction.
Or, maybe, some other fiction designed to excuse outcomes and vilify others.
But then, such things cannot happen here.
But, Susie Cream Cheese and the Brain Police, they might know about such things.
At the Family Dog, many things were once discussed …
This comment was to vinnieoh.
If you didn’t read past the first paragraph then your comment has no value. This essay isn’t about who Trump is surrounding himself with now, but how the Obama administration made up everything about Russia Gate and is responsible for this two year bogus investigation. The real tragedy is that our generation has committed a massive psyops on the American public and used it to keep us distracted from what congress is doing behind the scenes. And the reason why congress can lie to us and spread propaganda is because Obama rolled back the rule against doing it. Defend Obama all you want. IMO he was a worse president than Bush was and that is saying something. Trump is Obama’s legacy.
in the big scheme of things, the american left lost it’s heart when an amerikan communist shot JFK. the american left lost it’s mind when a palestinian shot RFK.
the american left lost it’s soul when it nominated hrc.
There is no Left in America, certainly not the Democratic party.
“when an amerikan communist shot JFK. the american left lost it’s mind when a palestinian shot RFK.”
Wow, old geezer. When you choose willful ignorance, you might want to consider not going public with it in a forum on a well-respected journalism page whose commenters are mostly a cut above what is to be endured elsewhere on the web.
I too am an “old geezer,” but my wits are still with me.
You need better information.
the first two commenters make my point.
“ Reclaiming History “ by Vince Bugliosi, if you have an open mind, as long as your brains don’t fall out.
To all those who responded to my comment:
Too often I express myself poorly. What motivated me to make that comment was, at its core, burnout. US national politics is, by all experience, a vicious, no-holds-barred all-out war. The piece began by introducing a whole cast of characters I was unfamiliar with, and frankly I no longer have the energy to try to follow the labyrinth of actors and events that are being revealed. I am NOT saying that it’s all unimportant. Of course it is, and hopefully as is said “the truth will out.” To that end, what Consortium News does is extremely important and visiting this site, for me, is always fascinating and informative, and I am constantly humbled by the knowledge of our hidden history by the many commenters here.
To further explain myself I’ve been dismayed of late that CN is so invested in this ongoing battle, while the daily play of events seem to spiral into ever more dangerous waters. But as soon as I think that or say that I know that isn’t logical or helpful. After all there are damn few investigators or sites willing to follow the facts wherever they might lead. My meager donations to support this site don’t confer on me any agency to complain about what the editors, contributors, and directors of this site deem important or worth pursuing. No-one forces me to visit here, to donate, or to comment. As we all know there are many “voices” that inhabit this new realm of internet information and opinion. Some covert, some overt, and many actively involved in attempting to sway opinion, to discredit opponents, or to prop up false narratives. I’m none of the above, just a simple man trying to understand the world I’m a part of. Maybe a simpleton, but that is for others to judge I suppose.
This is already longer than I wanted to reply, but I’ll leave you all with a question, the worth of which you can decide. Will revealing and knowing the truth about “Russiagate” make any difference in the course of this nation, smoldering as it is in its stark contradictions? My humble but steadfast conclusion is that the arc of US international policy has remained consistent throughout the years since the end of WWII, no matter which individuals or Party has been in control of the branches of US government. Politics and governance is now a game played out largely beyond the influence and needs of the majority of its citizens. This latest debacle is a prime example of that.
If you’ve indulged me so far, many “very serious people” are probably thinking – “Oh, good grief, move along, nothing to see here.” And now I’ll switch over to the donation page and make my meager contribution, because despite all my ill-informed griping, I do believe this site is important. Thank you for your time.
Ya done good, vinnieoh.
Thumbs up.
Superb comment, vinnieoh, most eloquent.
My agreement with David Otness is complete.
Excellent post, vinnieoh. Enjoy your comments. I feel the same way. Sick of all of it. It’s all a bunch of fiddling while the planet and its precious creatures, burn.
Vinnie-
I am hopeful that revealing the truth about RussiaGate will make a difference, but I may be overly optimistic. It is becoming clear to those of us who have stayed abreast of available information that RussiaGate was an “Intelligence” Agency creation with the aim of either removing Trump from office or bringing him to heel. So far, it has succeeded in the latter. If we are to have any hope of a return to the rule of law, these bad actors in our “Intelligence” Agencies need to be prosecuted and brought to justice. I don’t know if Barr has the power or the will in this regard, but it’s our only hope. Only by succeeding in overthrowing the “Deep State” do we have any hope of reining in the forces of Empire, and learning to wage peace in a multi-polar world. Until then, our only choice will be between corporate sponsored warmonger from column A or B.
Thank you, Vinnieoh, for your honesty. I would like to reply to your weariness, which I feel myself, in your question about knowing the truth of “Russiagate.” Will it make any difference or simply further wear us out with the preoccupation on it, is I think the gist of your question. Again I would like to say we are grappling to understand the true and full monstrosity of this event, which has spiraled out of HRC’s defeat in 2016. Most of us here, I think, see a case involving massive corruption of the government from the top down in spinning a propaganda tale for its various purposes. This act of brainwashing has been so brazen and arrogant it has an “in your face” jeering feeling to it, similar to what has happened lately with the Venezuela fiasco, now being pushed regularly on MSM with “Juan Guaido, elected president of Venezuela” etc. etc. I bring this up to indicate how the tendency to steam-roll the populace into obedience worsens continually–also linking to Julian Assange. Assange’s right to publish and our right to know as citizens is threatened by intimidation and brain manipulation truly Orwellian, as indicated most recently by Ray McGovern (the message being Assange is too dangerous in providing a citizen’s right to know and must be shut up, ergo all of you should shut up). I believe ALL THIS is the basic condition we ordinaries and simpletons are trying to grapple with. We need to dig and dig further, and dig more, and patiently bear with that if you’ll forgive me for saying so, if for no other reason than from self-respect as an individual citizen refusing to put up with the bullshit further towards complete destruction of a so-called “representative system,” which, faulty as it may have been at origin, is still highly worthwhile as a goal to strive towards, versus totalitarianism. I too thank you for your time.
If the Democrats did not think it would make a difference, they would not have gone through the trouble of holding Barr in contempt. Based on that fact alone, it will obviously make a great deal of difference. There has not been prosecutions of high-level government officials since the Reagan administration, our ruling class will do everything they can to ensure the only path our politicians will ever take is one of criminality and corruption.
Beginning in 2007, Larry C.Johnson emerged as a strident opponent of Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign.[2] His rapid swing from the left to the right earned him the enmity of former allies.[2] According to The New York Times, Johnson is “best known for spreading a hoax… in 2008 that Michelle Obama had been videotaped using a slur against Caucasians”.[1] His blog, NoQuarterUSA, often criticized Obama’s qualifications to be president. On May 16, 2008, Johnson posted an item entitled, “Will Barack Throw Mama From the Train?” which alleged that a tape existed of Michelle Obama “railing against ‘whitey’ at Jeremiah Wright’s church.”[13][1] Johnson claimed that Republicans were in possession of the tape and it “is being held for the fall to drop at the appropriate time.” In a subsequent post, Johnson claimed that Obama’s appearance had occurred when she was on a panel with Louis Farrakhan. He also explained that he himself had not seen the tape, but had spoken with “five separate sources who have spoken directly with people who have seen the tape.”[14] The Obama campaign’s “Fight the Smears” website denied the rumor, saying, “No such tape exists. Michelle Obama has not spoken from the pulpit at Trinity and has not used that word.”[15]
No tape was ever released, nor has any other evidence emerged of Obama using the word “whitey”. On October 21, 2008, Johnson said that, according to one of his sources, the McCain campaign “intervened and requested the tape not be used.”[16]
War crime accusations against John Kerry
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In 2013, Johnson falsely accused John Kerry of war crimes in Vietnam, alleging that Kerry had “raped some poor Vietnamese woman.”[17] To support his claim, Johnson used a YouTube video[18] that contained audio clips from a 1971 debate on The Dick Cavett Show between John Kerry and John O’Neill. The original interview[19] audio[20] was altered to piece together words that Kerry spoke at different times during the debate, falsely making it sound as if he said, “I personally raped for pleasure.” When the falsehood was exposed by a reader of Johnson’s blog, Johnson deleted the article without apology.[21]
Allegations that British intelligence wiretapped Donald Trump
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In March 2017, Andrew Napolitano spread the unfounded conspiracy theory that GCHQ, one of Britain’s top intelligence agencies, had wiretapped Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign on orders from President Obama.[1][22] Johnson was the source for Napolitano’s claim.[1][23] The conspiracy theory was later asserted as fact by President Trump, with him citing Fox News and Napolitano.[1] GCHQ responded, stating that the claims were “nonsense, utterly ridiculous and should be ignored”.[24] Fox News later disavowed the statement by Napolitano.[1] See More at Wikkipedia.
The Michelle tape rumor was spread by Hillary as was the Obama Birther rumors .I know because I worked on the Obama campaign and remember well the Hillary people saying they had the dirt on Obama.
The Brits dirty finger are all over this.
The Steele dossier, which consisted of a series of memorandum authored by the former MI6 spy, detailed intel purportedly provided by a variety of Vladimir Putin-connected sources. For instance, Steele identified Source A as “a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure” who “confided that the Kremlin had been feeding Trump and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents, including Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.”
Other supposed sources identified in the dossier included: Source B, identified as “a former top-level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin”; Source C, a “Senior Russian Financial Officer”; and Source G, “a Senior Kremlin Official.” -The Federalist
As Cleveland posits: “Given Mueller’s conclusion that no one connected to the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to interfere with the election, one of those two scenarios must be true—either Russia fed Steele disinformation or Steele lied to the FBI about his Russian sources.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-06/major-mueller-report-omissions-suggest-hes-incompetent-or-covering-major-crimes
In 2007 I have to agree with you and I had very negative feelings about Larry Johnson. I remember then referring to him as a CIA thug. More recently my views have changed. In part, because he was mostly right about Obama (at that time I was a fervent backer) and I came to believe that Larry was right that Obama was a fraud. However, today I must say that I am beginning to agree with him.
James,
You’ve been taken in by the Media Matters smear machine. First, with respect to the Whitey Tape. I got that information originally from DAVID BROCK of Media Matters. I was steered to BROCK by Sid Blumenthal. I was used, unwittingly, to smear the Obama’s by the Clinton Campaign. I’ve written extensively on this matter but no one wants to examine Brock and Blumenthal.
The War Crime thing on Kerry is total bullshit. There was a video circulating at the time with the specious claim about Kerry. I did not initially realize it was specious. I put it up on my blog for about 3 hours. Once I realized it was a fraud I took it down.
At the Brits. I was right and remain right on this. If you would simply be intellectually honest and examine the facts of my article you would stop being a mindless mouthpiece for those trying to cover this up.
You are right. Obama was/is a fraud.
That was clear weeks after the election, when he started to name his cabinet.
Ouch! Ouch! And Ouch! Same old same old.
And it was kind of clinched for me in a way that was purely from the gut: When I watched the inauguration, the camera followed BO as he walked through the hallways of the Capitol. I looked at his face, and I thought: There is something wrong here. Something wrong with this man. His face during that walk gave me the creeps. I wish someonen would unearth the footage. It was nationally broadcast as millions gathered in hotel lobbies etc. to view the whole Inauguration on large screens.
As the Bushes’ helicopter took off I thought: OK, they are gone. I am going to be happy for a day.
But I knew any honeymoon would be short-lived. The Dems had a trifecta of the House, the Senate, and the WH. If they had been serious—if Obama had been serious—about genuine change, they could have done what they wanted, and what the American people really and clearly wanted— right then and there. They could have fixed American health care for starters. Instead Obama’s opening shot was shooting down universal health care. It was downhill from there, I think both houses were lost in the midterms, or just one?
And, yes, the failure and disgust with Obama, his failure as leader of the party to control Hillary Clinton (among other things) brought us Trump. I have no doubt that having groomed Clinton by naming her SecState and then pushing her for the presidency—for whatever reasons—he then took the next logical step of actively and illegally undermining Trump’s candidacy to ensure her ascent to power. The magnitude of the shock suggests the magnitude of the loss (really Shock and Awe in DC, not Iraq). Why was it *so* crucial for Hillary to win that her failure to do so pushed Obama and others to go so far off the reservation? What is really behind it? I think maybe more than just partisan politics. There is a secret there in the Clinton-Obama political relationship. Do they have something on each other? The response to Trump’s win was simply too extreme.
By being the first black president and turning out to be a fraud, Obama did huge harm to the Dem Party.
Thank you for this response, Larry, it clarifies and puts into perspective a number of things.
I am very pleased, as well, to learn that you are a member of VIPS.
Trump lost all his spirit . Now is proof in the pudding. Puffed up idiot. Stooge for zionists / globalists …
US Christian Zionists have clout in US politics, but there is no giant conspiracy of other “Zionists”. We Americans are to blame for all our crimes and follies.
Zhu, very little of import has ever occurred anywhere on this globe that didn’t involve the planning and actions of more than one individual, and Zionists are by no means the only group harnessing collective resources to pursue interests of both individuals within the group and those of the collective. They’ve simply been at it longer, owing to certain historical events and unique cultural characteristics. The diaspora, the high degree of tribalism within the group, and the long-standing global network that had resulted, has conferred tremendous advantage to both the broader goals of the group, to those individuals on the inside, and to those who would use the network for their own nefarious aims. To deny the overwhelming influence Israel and its affiliated lobbies exert over our government is to deny the obvious. To deny the sway over our culture and history that has resulted from the greatly disproportionate representation of members of a certain group within our banking, media/entertainment, and legal systems is to deny the obvious.
I agree that ultimately the American people ARE to “blame” for allowing ourselves to be so manipulated, distracted, divided, and deceived. As more of us awaken from our long slumber, it is perfectly natural that some of us might wish to point out the means, sources, and motives behind the deceptions that continue in plain sight, no matter how uncomfortable the truths.
First sentence correct and true; unfortunately citizens are as stoogefull as potus and some of congress.
Don’t normalize potus or detractors – a stooge at the head of govt is detrimental to usa and beyond.
This is a good article but with a few caveats:
— Mueller’s failure to note that Sater is (or was) an FBI informant is striking, as Johnson notes. But his relationship with the bureau dates from 1998, so we have no idea whether he was still “a fully signed up FBI informant” as of September 2015 when he approached Trump about the Moscow project. But the question is certainly worth exploring.
— The article is correct that suggesting “that Simes was somehow an agent of Putin and a vehicle for helping Trump work with the Russians to steal the 2016 election is crazy and idiotic.” But the report doesn’t suggest any such thing. To be fair, Mueller’s discussion of Simes is pretty non-judgmental.
— I have no idea why Johnson describes the report’s discussion of the GOP platform as “a complete farce.” The incident was farcical, but the report’s discussion of it is quite good.
— The same goes for the report’s discussion of Kislyak, which was also quite good.
my take also.
Two paragraphs from Politico:
Even so, former U.S. officials and people who know Simes say Mueller’s report is a fresh reminder that he is at best a mysterious—and at worst alarming—player in Washington’s foreign policy community. Depending on who you ask, he is either a shrewd foreign policy realist dedicated to defusing tensions between his birth-nation and the one where he chose to make a life — or a Kremlin advocate who cloaks his true agenda in Washington, D.C.
“It’s very transparent what his agenda is,” said Michael Carpenter, a former adviser to Vice President Joe Biden and a top Pentagon official for Russia and Ukraine in the Obama administration. Carpenter said that while Simes positions himself as a pragmatic foreign policy realist, “he is completely pro-Kremlin and always has been.”
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The question is why Mueller reports on individuals who did not do anything incriminating? After all, that describes a major part of the population if not the majority. It seems that the project was to paint Trump in a “Russian color” to arrive at the conclusion “not proven, but definitely suspicious” (in this case, both Trump and Simes). Keep in mind that this technique was proven to be amazingly effective. Most Americans got convinced that Saddam worked with al-Qaeda merely because again and again the two were mentioned together. For political operatives this is perhaps OK — although sadly they do it on government payroll, like Carpenter quoted above. And like Mueller.
Thanks, those sound to me like significant points that deserve editorial comment or a correction. It would make me feel better about sharing the article.
Dirt bag Mueller and his angry Trump hating 18 DemonRats made 35 Million off of this SCAM.
The procuring reason behind the “Special Council” was the real Criminal Acts that the Mass Decieving Media fails to report: the Treasonous Acts of Deceits and Deceptions of the Enemy Obama Administration. The DNC’s Organized Crime Syndication worked with Russia and Foreign Agents to influence the Election. When Global Gangster owned Hellary Rotten Clinton (as Obama was) lost, their “insurance policy” was the leaking and “framing” of Trump to try and get him impeached.
The ‘hole Enemy Obama Administration should be Tried For Treason then FRIED like chicken.
Like those illiterrate Barbarian War Lord and Pedophile Fake Prophet worshipping Muslimes, Registered DUMBasCRAP American Idiots remain clueless as to how they are used by the filthy rich Crookiticians within the DNC’s Racist Organized Crime Syndication…
The Hoover Crime Family’s MO is entrapment. “Keeping the world safe from democracy” is their motto.
I used to understand it as the Hoover Crime Family did domestic work within these shores only, while the CIA handled foreign “intrigue”, i.e., gather intelligence for the president’s desk. Nowadays, the division has disappeared and chaos rules, along with countless other 9/11 fathered three letter agencies.
geeyp your comment is extremely important for us “regular citizens” who are not generally aware of the constant intrigue that is now a fundamental aspect of the US government.
It took me many years of interest in the Assassination Of President Kennedy To comprehend the amazing Depth of deception and it wasn’t until I read all of William Pepper’s books, over time, that I realized the total corruption of The Hoover Crime Family. That is why I always say that it all goes back to JFK. The system is not capable of self correction, the corruption is now metastasized, the CIA was equally involved…
Mr. Van Noy – Yes, I completely agree that this downfall started on Nov. 22, 1963. I recall that day like it was yesterday. There were signs, I have since learned, that corruption was “around” D.C. prior to that. The shock from that day made it seem like everything had changed, and indeed it had. Until that complete story of his killing is clear once and for all (just like with the implosions of the three towers on 9/11) this great country is weeping. The tie-in of many of the same traitors involved with these two outrages strains the naivete of so many people.
Thank you geeyp. An excellent National Press Club presentation by William Pepper here:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n0sTsqLKwU0
Thank you for that link. I have followed Dr. Pepper’s work off and on for several years now and feel he is a serious person always with the right intentions. He is someone who has defined what happened to RFK as close as anyone could. To make a long story short, what are we to do when we lose people like Pepper and Wecht? They are leaders with scientific evidence we need to crack these cases.
Dr. Pepper has proven Dr. King did not die the way the MSM portrayed and proved another patsy existed. I feel sorry for the families who are too scared to demand justice, even though in his recent writings, Kennedy Jr. and his sister have come to say they know Sirhan Sirhan did not murder their father.
jeeyp and others: Many thanks. Robert Parry has established a method of Journalism and Struggle that allows the Truth to emerge. The total package of investigating, reporting, and on-line give and take, represent our last and best hope to determine what has happened and how we might respond… Thanks to all.