As the two major candidates for the U.S. vice presidency prepare to debate Tuesday night in Manhattan, veteran U.S. intelligence officials have some firm advice for them on Ukraine.
Protesters clash with police in Kiev February 2014. (Mstyslav Chernov, Wikimedia Commons, CC BY-SA 3.0)
September 30, 2024
MEMORANDUM TO: The Candidates for U.S. Vice President
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
SUBJECT: Clarity on Ukraine
At Tuesday’s debate, we strongly suggest you avoid repeating familiar “facts” that do not bear close scrutiny. Chief among these is the claim that Russia’s decision to send troops into Ukraine was “unprovoked”. A companion is the claim that Russia will not stop in Ukraine and that Poland will be “next”.
A constructive debate needs to be informed by accurate facts; we offer some below:
Unprovoked
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg inadvertently gave the game away on Ukraine during a speech at the European Parliament on Oct. 7, 2023, with these words:
“He [Putin] wanted us never to enlarge NATO…We rejected that…So he went to war to prevent more NATO.”
Reaching farther back, we remind you that on Feb. 1, 2008 Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told then-U.S. Ambassador William Burns in no uncertain terms that Russia would be provoked if NATO invited Ukraine to become a member.
Burns titled the embassy cable #08MOSCOW265, sent immediately to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice:
“NYET MEANS NYET: RUSSIA’S NATO ENLARGEMENT REDLINES.”
Nevertheless, Bush and Cheney scorned that warning and just two months later successfully pressed other NATO leaders to agree, in the NATO Summit Declaration of April 3, 2008, that Ukraine “will become a member of NATO.”
You will probably recall that earlier still, on Feb. 9, 1990, Secretary of State James Baker successfully persuaded Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to accept reunification of Germany in return for an undertaking by the U.S. not to expand NATO “one inch eastward.”
Since then NATO has more than doubled in size, with all new members east of what had been East Germany.
Coup d’ Etat, Kyiv, Feb. 2014
The coup in Kiev, appropriately known as the “most blatant coup in history” – drove out duly elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and turned the issue of Ukraine joining NATO into a very live issue. The coup government, which was given official U.S. recognition in record time, immediately called for NATO membership
Crimea was the first big fly in the ointment. By an accident of history Crimea, traditionally part of Russia, had been ceded to Ukraine by Soviet fiat (ukaz) in 1954. It hardly mattered then because Ukraine was a constituent Republic of the USSR.
After the USSR fell apart in 1991, and after the 2014 coup leaders declared NATO membership as a main goal, it mattered greatly.
Crimea’s strategic significance to Russia cannot be understated. Suffice it to point out here that Russia’s only ice-free naval base is in Crimea. That’s why a quick plebiscite was held; the vote was overwhelming in favor of annexation by Russia; and that was speedily accomplished.
This too was branded “unprovoked” by the likes of Sen. John McCain. The Establishment media were obfuscating this issue to such an extent that one of us was provoked into sending a letter to the editor of The Washington Post, published on July 1, 2015:
“Sen. John McCain was wrong to write that Russian President Vladimir Putin annexed Crimea without provocation. What about the coup in Kiev on Feb. 22, 2014, that replaced President Viktor Yanukovych with pro-Western leaders favoring membership in NATO? Was that not provocation enough?
This glaring omission is common in the Post.
The March 10 World Digest item ‘Putin had early plan to annex Crimea’ described a “secret meeting” Mr. Putin held on Feb. 23, 2014, during which ‘Russia decided it would take the Crimean Peninsula.’ No mention was made of the coup the previous day. …”
‘Poland Is Next’
During his debate with Donald Trump, President Joe Biden claimed that Putin “wants all of Ukraine. … Do you think he’ll stop? … What do you think happens to Poland and other places?” Vice President Kamala Harris has posed the same question.
The following facts should not come as a surprise. Official Ukrainian sources have long since confirmed that Putin did stop in March 2022, after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky agreed to forswear membership in NATO.
This was the key provision in the Ukraine-Russia deal initialed by Davyd Arakhamia, who at the time was Zelensky’s chief negotiator at the talks in Istanbul at the end of March 2022, hardly a month into the war.
Ukraine agreed to become neutral and the Russians lifted their objection to Ukraine joining the EU. Security guarantees sought by Kyiv (short of NATO membership) would be worked out. The fighting would stop. Agreement on the status of Crimea would be put off to the future.
Arakhamia was so outspokenly disappointed by this outcome, that The New York Times was forced to carry the story, replete with the texts of various treaty drafts that it had been keeping under wraps. (That was more than three months ago. Better late than never, we suppose.)
Accordingly, it is not quite right to warn that “Putin won’t stop” after Ukraine, when it is “flat fact” that he already did stop barely seven weeks after hostilities started. You are probably aware that it was the U.S. and U.K., courtesy of former U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson, that put an end to the talks and the draft treaty, and told President Volodymyr Zelensky to fight on.
Former Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland has admitted, with a smirk, that she and Boris “encouraged” Zelensky to scuttle the deal.
These are just some of the facts that should be honored in a truthful debate. We shall be happy to answer any questions either of you may have.
FOR THE STEERING GROUP —
VETERAN INTELLIGENCE PROFESSIONALS FOR SANITY
- Marshall Carter-Tripp, Foreign Service Officer (ret) and former Office Director in the State Department Bureau of Intelligence and Research
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Bogdan Dzakovic, former Team Leader of Federal Air Marshals and Red Team, FAA Security, (ret.) (associate VIPS)
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Graham E. Fuller, Vice-Chair, National Intelligence Council (ret.)
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Philip Giraldi, C.I.A., Operations Officer (ret.)
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James George Jatras, former U.S. diplomat and former foreign policy adviser to Senate leadership (Associate VIPS)
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Larry C. Johnson, former C.I.A. and State Department Counter Terrorism officer
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John Kiriakou, former C.I.A. Counterterrorism Officer and former senior investigator, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
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Karen Kwiatkowski, former Lt. Col., U.S. Air Force (ret.), at Office of Secretary of Defense watching the manufacture of lies on Iraq, 2001-2003
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Douglas Macgregor, Colonel, USA (ret.) (associate VIPS)
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Ray McGovern, former U.S. Army infantry/intelligence officer & C.I.A. analyst; C.I.A. Presidential briefer (ret.)
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Pedro Israel Orta, former C.I.A. and Intelligence Community (Inspector General) officer
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Scott Ritter, former MAJ, USMC; former U.N. Weapons Inspector, Iraq
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Coleen Rowley, F.B.I. Special Agent and former Minneapolis Division Legal Counsel (ret.)
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Larry Wilkerson, Colonel, U.S. Army (ret.), former Chief of Staff for Secretary of State; Distinguished Visiting Professor, College of William and Mary
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Sarah G. Wilton, CDR, USNR, (ret.); Defense Intelligence Agency (ret.)
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Ann Wright, retired U.S. Army reserve colonel and former U.S. diplomat who resigned in 2003 in opposition to the Iraq War
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“These are just some of the facts that should be honored in a truthful debate. We shall be happy to answer any questions either of you may have.” Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
….. IMO, the fact is “we, the people,” would be honored to have Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, “on board,” the NEXT President’s & Vice-President’s (Trump-Vance OR Stein-Ware) Board of Executives NOT a Board of Executioners!!!
“IMAGINE,” V.I.P.S., in the WH! POTUS’ #1 “Go To.” The bird tweets. The owl asks, “WHO’S Running the WH?” …… V.I.P.S!!! “Awh, very cool!” THEY’RE all the intelligence, brillance, genius, humans w/“heart, soul & bones,” a U.S. President & Vice President need to “Wage Peace NOT War!”
Any V.I.P.S., would do justice, bring integrity & trust, in the role of “Secretary” OF: Treasury, State, Defense, Health & Human Rights, Peace; &, a Press Secretary. “IMAGINE,” A Dept. of Peace NOT The Dept. of Homeland $ecurity & its Alpha-Beta agencies. “IMAGINE,” Homeland $ecurity, “Shuttered.” “IMAGINE,” ‘A Plan To Save The Planet,’ drafted by the “Tricontinental Institute of Social Research,” becoming the key that unlocks “our” future, saving plant, animal & human life, holistically!?!
There’s no doubt, imo, Harris-Walz are “gifting” Trump-Vance, more “Dirty Wars,” i.e., US/Nato v. Russia in Ukraine; US/Israel v. Palestine, on the West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iran, etc., etc., etc.
QUESTION, “Are you ready to “Make America Great, Again?” Imo, J.D.Vance’s “got” the best chance. Tim Walz is skip’n the dance!
Onward & Upwards. TY. Ciao.
I predict a lot about cat ladies and dog-eating immigrants.
#TDS
History can inform us like provoking the USSR into Afghanistan. Bombing North Vietnam by bombing them causing their military entry into South Vietnam giving us reason to enter South Vietnam. One could see similarity to the start of the Korean War.
The Afghan entry was then used to boycott the Moscow Olympics, and the Crimean issue to attempt a Sochi Olympic boycott.
Appeasement to prepare for war in the Ukraine with similar historic president. Promises to Russia about NATO advance a lie from the beginning perhaps even military exchanges made just to check their status.
A nuclear deal with Iran to lessen sanctions and examine facilities then renege and let the sanctions sink in again as a lesson in pain.
Numerous treaties broken with the Native Americans over the ages.
The long war against the Communist revolution beginning with invasion at the end of WWI by western powers in Russia sets the stage for all events afterward.
Probably some phony Gulf of Tonkin Incident type thing will excuse war with PR China, as well. A fake invasion of Taiwan or the Philippines, perhaps. :-(
I went to a lecture at St. John’s College on current affairs, as I remember it, in Santa Fe, NM, and mentioned this 2022 agreement between Zelensky and Putin, and he never heard of it. We have a real problem with MSM here.
“These are just some of the facts that should be honored in a truthful debate.”
Another is the willingness of Russia to renew the lease of its naval base in Sevastopol from Ukraine, a lease that was coming due for renewal. While other Ukrainian politicians favoured renewal, one in particular wanted to ditch the agreement altogether, considering it invalid.
That russophobic politician? Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Guess who the U.S. chose to support for Ukrainian leadership? Remember Victoria Nuland’s “Yat’s is the man”?
How do you square willingness on Russia’s part to renew the lease with the idea that Russia, before Yatsenyuk came to power, was bent on expansion and in particular, on invading Crimea?
thank you, VIPS!
the facts you remind us – and them –
of cannot be repeated often enough!
if only people with misconceptions
about political causes and effects were
swayed by actual, ironclad facts.
I see no political distinction between the two presidential candidates, not the two VP candidates. So what will they debate about?
Both will spread the same lies, leaving personal attacks and nothing else.
Is it too much for the imperialist-vetted VP candidates to be reminded that the US, with perhaps the inaugural “coalition of the willing,” invaded Russia (it wasn’t USSR until 1922) a few months after its 1917 revolution?
One could say that the 2022 SMO was the result of 104 years of US provocation of Russia(>USSR>Russia).
Just like their Zhionist owners, these vice presidential candidates lie through their teeth morning, noon and night and will continue to do so on behalf of their owners.
Don’t underestimate the Christian Zionist Dispensationalists, eager for the End of the World. Such voters number in the 10s of millions. Why do you think Bush II invaded Iraq? To fulfill prophecy!
This memo is a nice refresher primer on reality.
Thank you for this clear article. There’s the third reason Putin went into Ukraine, besides retaining Crimea and stopping NATO at the last border that would complete the encircling of Russia. He wanted to de-Nazify the Donbas where the Nazi Azov Battalion with the Right Sector Stefan Bandera fascist followers murdered 14000 Russian speakers in the 8 years following the US coup. Putin is a good and beloved leader. Apparently, we’ll never allow one here.
Many thanks for this and to VIPS.
Over in the UK, we hear so much nonsense about this conflict.
Interestingly enough the hasty emergence of the Donetsk militias did not fall short of giving a bloody nose to the Ukie Army when it tried to over-run the Donbass. These two defeats for the Ukies were lost at the battles of Ilovaisk and Debaltsevo and kept the Ukie Army at bay for the duration. More interestingly, perhaps, was Putin’s apparent silence during this period. In fact it wasn’t until 2022 that the Russian population, the Russian people and the militias, saw fit to coax Putin until 2022. Givi, Motor Rola, Alexander Zakharchenko, were hero’s of the Donbass who held the fort.
Thanks again for setting the record straight regardless of what the candidates say. Some day it will matter. Let’s see is either one actually tries to be a competent leader of this country as opposed to a shill for vested interests.
I think it’s good for the record here to include one special tenet of the 1991 re-establishment of NATO (under US’ new authority). It’s that US contractors must be able to bid in every NATO project. Look at all the destruction US interests leave in its wake. Someone’s gonna get mighty rich putting that all together again.
thanks for this important “detail”
Linda: Excellent point. I’ve heard NATO described as a huge, international money laundering scheme. It is certainly not a military force of any real merit, which is probably a good thing.
Given the wisdom of ‘believe but verify,’ I did a search for confirmation of the NATO bid process. Among the items I found was an article in Forbes magazine 5/23/2022 “Expanded NATO Will Shoot Billions To US Defense Contractors.” The title alone is an indication of how neocon/neolibs actually think–the vast majority of Americans and all other life forms on this planet are mere economic and actual cannon fodder.
Just a minor point: the speech by NATO general secretary, Stoltenberg, was on Septembre 7, 2023 not October as the linked document shows. Otherwise a valuable historical reminder.
‘we strongly suggest you avoid repeating familiar “facts” that do not bear close scrutiny.’
You can’t be serious. Doth thou know naught of politics? Lying is their primary tool for dealing with the public. You gotta tell people what they want to hear, otherwise someone else will.
Yes indeed, it will be one lie after another, both of them trying to one up the other on who is more belicose.
VIPS are not defeatists nor nihilists.
While what you say is generally true, Patrick, Vance – atrocious as he is on just about every other issue – has been pretty sane on Ukraine. Who knows, maybe he’ll continue to be sane on this issue in the debate, especially if he gets to see this memo.
Patrick your cynicism is well founded and from my point of view very welcome. Question motives we must, and we all must start driving hard point to our government.
As Samuel Clemens said, patriotism is supporting our country all the time and our government when it deserves it.
We are definitely at that juncture. I left an earlier comment that pointed out the the insidious nature of some of the goings on in the White House in reference to some of the staff there and at the State Department.
SEE Blinken Lied to Congress. Robert E Williamson Sept 27, 2024 @16:35.
It was in response to a comment posted there by Irina.
We all must vigorously petition our government to cut the friggin’ B.S. . Now.
I feel VIPS are in a great position to do just that. However the haters will try and crucify them given a chance. They must remain professional and civility is at play. We are the ones who can protest quite vociferosouly and we must do so, civility be damned.
Robert Kagan – Victoria Nuland
Antony Blinken – Evan Ryan
Go back and read what I wrote. This name thing seems to me to be an attempt at deception. Of course those who orbit in State Department ane White House circles know who these people are but far too many of us “we the people” have in depth knowledge of associations such as I discuss here.
Reality being such I interpret this “name game ” as being deceptive in nature. My Senator will hear from me soon dealing with just this subject and my reason is this.
This instance when coupled with the actions of Nuland and Blinken seems to clearly indicte to me that Blinken and his wife should not be in what a consider very critical positions at the White House. Pure and simple the situation puts them in a conflict with ethical government and “We the People”, me for instance, don’t like it one dogdamned bit!
It is just a thought!
That (most) politicians lie most of the time is true. But in this case they are NOT telling people what they want to hear. People do not want to hear that war is necessary. They want to hear the opposite. That’s why they initially voted for LBJ, and why they initially voted for Zelensky. Both promised to bring peace but did the opposite.