Casualties of Russian ‘Civil War’: Beltway Experts

The Grayzone‘s in-depth look at the massacre carried out by some of America’s top Russia experts against their own credibility, report Max Blumenthal and Wyatt Reed.

By Max Blumenthal and Wyatt Reed
The Grayzone
When Wagner Group leader Yevgeny Prigozhin launched a supposed revolt against Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday, sending his forces on a march toward Moscow following a series of tirades against the country’s defense establishment, Washington’s expert class overflowed with an orgy of regime change fantasies. 

For just over 12 hours, everyone from former U.S. ambassador to Russia and noted Hitler apologist Michael McFaul to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to neocon pundit Anne Applebaum exploded with seemingly libidinal excitement about a supposed “civil war” that was certain to feature “Russians…killing Russians,” along with “lots of casualties” and Putin “probably hiding somewhere.”

It was as though the Soviet Union was collapsing all over again, and Prigozhin, a character named on the F.B.I.’s most wanted list whom the U.S. government has sanctioned for leading what it described as a “transnational criminal organization,” was suddenly a white knight storming into Moscow to liberate Russia from “the Putin regime” on the back of a tank. Move over, Juan Guaido.

Expecting a bloodbath and seismic political upheaval, corporate networks like CNN had budgeted wall-to-wall coverage of the coup that wasn’t, filling cable news green rooms with rent-a-generals, K Street think tankers, and war-hungry former diplomatic corps hacks.

On Saturday afternoon, however, news broke across the U.S. that Prigozhin had struck a deal with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko to end his protest and go into exile. Thus ended a largely bloodless affair that ultimately saw fewer documented deaths than the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot.

Though the supposed revolt in Russia burned out faster than a Leopard tank on the way to Zaporizhzhia, we now know that a number of serious casualties were incurred inside the D.C. Beltway. The Grayzone obtained an exclusive look at the massacre some of America’s top Russia experts carried out against their own credibility.

McFaul McFails, Again

Ever since he was unceremoniously ejected from Moscow for apparently attempting to organize a color revolution in 2012, Ambassador Michael McFaul has waged a personal jihad against the country’s government. His hatred of the Russian leadership grew so impassioned that he once declared that Putin was morally inferior to Adolf Hitler, embracing a fringe view associated with Holocaust deniers that asserts the Nazi dictator “didn’t kill German-speaking people.”

When the events of Friday kicked off, McFaul could hardly contain himself. The disgraced diplomat immediately took to Twitter to insist without a shred of evidence to claim that Putin “has ordered his army and others to destroy Wagner & Prigozhin.”

“So there’s going to be a big fight,” he promised.

As for the Russian President, McFaul confidently declared: “I am sure that he is no longer in Moscow.” Just after noon on Saturday, he seemed to believe the Russian president’s demise was imminent. “Rats are jumping” from Putin’s ship, he effused, referring to oligarch Arkady Rotenberg taking a flight to Azerbaijan. “This is now a civil war,” the self-styled expert confidently declared.

But around 1:30 PM on Saturday the unwelcome news had made its way to Washington: Putin and Prigozhin had reached an agreement. There was to be no civil war in Russia, after all.

McFaul was suddenly forced to reckon with the reality that his predictions of a coup were premature, and that virtually everything he had said hours before was completely wrong. “Can anyone remember a mutiny or coup attempt that lasted 24 hours and no one really fought or was killed?,” pondered the retired diplomat, seemingly coming to grips with the obvious. 

Then, like an alcoholic in denial after yet another blackout, McFaul whimpered, “I was wrong about this. Eager to learn why.”

Anne Applebaum’s ‘Civil War’ 

This May, anti-Russian pseudo-scholar and former Iraq war cheerleader Anne Applebaum predicted a decisive Ukrainian counter-offensive that would storm through Russian defenses and not only “liberate” Crimea, but encourage regime change from Moscow to Venezuela. 

In an article co-authored by former Israeli prison guard and The Atlantic magazine editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg, and illustrated by the Davos frontman, Bono, (with apparent help from an Etch-a-Sketch), Applebaum openly fantasized about a madman taking control of Russia’s nuclear arsenal.

“Even the worst successor imaginable,” she wrote, “even the bloodiest general or most rabid propagandist, will immediately be preferable to Putin, because he will be weaker than Putin. He will quickly become the focus of an intense power struggle.”

By Friday, Applebaum seemed to believe her fever dreams were coming true. And it was then that she breathlessly announced, “Russia is sliding into what can only be described as a civil war. ” 

“If you are surprised, maybe you shouldn’t be,” she lectured readers, just hours before the bloodless “coup” came to a conclusion. 

Applebaum’s husband is the former foreign minister of Poland, Radek Sikorski, who infamously tweeted his gratitude to the U.S. government for destroying the Nord Stream pipeline. While Sikorski deleted his tweet, Applebaum’s thoroughly discredited “civil war” article remains on the website of the Atlantic.

On Sunday, Applebaum and McFaul were rewarded for their badly botched analysis with an appearance on MSNBC’s Inside with Jen Psaki, which is hosted by the Biden White House’s former press secretary.

Zelensky: Putin Is ‘Very Afraid’

“The man from the Kremlin is obviously very afraid and probably hiding somewhere, not showing himself,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky proclaimed on Saturday. According to fact checkers, Zelensky did not issue this bold statement from inside a bunker or in front of a green screen. 

U.S. Intelligence Claims ‘Surprise’

On Sunday, CNN reported that U.S. intelligence analysts were taken by surprise by “the swiftness of the deal that was struck on Saturday.”

What’s more, they believed that Prigozhin’s march toward Moscow “would encounter much more resistance” than it did.

“I do know that we assessed it was going to be a great deal more violent and bloody,” an unnamed U.S. official reportedly told the outlet.

But D.C.’s disappointment with the lack of carnage on Moscow streets did not end there.

Kurt Volker Declares ‘The End’ for Putin

Kurt Volker is a former U.S. special representative for Ukraine negotiations who also operated as a de facto Raytheon lobbyist while serving as the executive director of the John McCain Institute. Volker also functioned as a liaison for U.S. and Ukrainian business interests while presiding over the founding of American University Kyiv.

During a Saturday CNN appearance, Volker declared that the brief moment of disorder in Russia marked “the end for Putin” and “the beginning of the end of Russia’s war in Ukraine.” 

Christo Grozev: Bellingcat’s Neocon-Stradumus

Christo Grozev is the Russia director of the U.S. and U.K. government-funded website Bellingcat. This April, Grozev celebrated a terrorist attack that saw a Russian war blogger assassinated and a cafe full of civilians blown up in St. Petersburg, Russia. 

With chaos seemingly intensifying inside the Russian Federation again, Grozev suddenly transformed from a glorified OSINT blogger into a geopolitical soothsayer with a unique ability to divine the fate of the Kremlin. 

“Prigozhin says he’s got 25k strong army and he’s going to take power and deal with the ‘traitors’ at the top before returning to the front line,” the Bellingcat commentator claimed on Twitter. “Am old enough to remember how Russia ‘pundits’ said I was talking nonsense predicting a Prigozhin coup attempt this year.”

Having not been born literally yesterday, we at The Grayzone are thankfully old enough to remember when Prigozhin’s “coup attempt” failed to materialize and ended quickly with negotiations.

Our memory is so long, in fact, that we recall when the war prophet Grozev stated that Russia had expended 70 percent of its precision missile stocks back in April 2022. Since then, Russian missile strikes on Ukrainian targets have only increased.

Ian Bremmer: Peter Hotez of International Relations

As president of the Eurasia Group risk analysis firm, political scientist Ian Bremmer has leveraged his supposed expertise into a lucrative business.

Bremmer recently weighed in in defense of the absurdly double-talking pediatrician and pundit Peter Hotez, defending his decision not to debate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on Covid-related issues on the grounds that Hotez was a credentialed expert, and RFK Jr. was not.

“It would be like me debating elon [Musk] on electric vehicles. Or him debating me on international relations,” Bremmer argued, asserting his own superior credentials. “There’s no value added.”

During the events of Friday, Bremmer joined the rest of the Beltway expert class in predicting imminent doom for Putin. “wagner territorial gains in russia dramatically faster than in ukraine,” Bremmer wrote in a viral post seen by more than 1 million Twitter users.

Moments later, he joked that “ukraine has run out of popcorn,” implying that Kiev was eagerly preparing for Russia’s collapse. 

Following the announcement of Wagner’s stand-down on Saturday, an apparently disappointed Bremmer insisted “there’s no environment where [Putin and Prigozhin] hug it out.”

Top Biden Officials’ Travel Plans Interrupted

Among the most overlooked victims of the brief march on Moscow were high-ranking U.S. officials’ weekend plans.

On Saturday, a spokesman for the Joint Chiefs of Staff announced that a planned visit to Jordan and Israel by Gen. Mark Milley, the top military officer in the U.S., had been canceled “due to the situation in Russia.”

Biden administration National Security Council director and possible human scarecrow Jake Sullivan was forced to cancel a trip as well. Sullivan had reportedly been slated to attend a conference on Ukraine in Denmark until Prigozhin decided to make a trip of his own toward Rostov-on-Don.

Stephen King: Lost in Fantasy

Horror author-turned-liberal Russiagate conspiracist Stephen King, who once praised Ukrainian Nazi collaborator and Holocaust perpetrator Stepan Bandera in a phone call with a prankster he believed to be Volodymyr Zelensky, was clearly titillated by Friday’s events.

When Prigozhin’s forces briefly took over the city of Rostov-on-Don, King once again proved unable to contain his overactive imagination. “Putin sowed the wind. Now he must reap the whirlwind. Slava Ukraini!” he exclaimed.  

Noted Online Stalker Idrees Ahmad Predicts ‘The Death of Aaron Mate’s Career’

Idress Ahmad once existed on the margins of the U.K.’s antiwar movement, publishing a book attacking the Iraq war-era neocon cabal, suggesting Senators Barbara Boxer and Russ Feingold voted for Iran sanctions because they are Jewish, and openly questioning the West’s narrative of a genocide in Darfur.

After running into financial trouble and escaping deportation to his native Pakistan “against the odds” thanks to a Home Office decision that remains unexplained, Ahmad transformed into the very thing he once condemned. 

Having re-emerged as a rabid supporter of the West’s dirty war on Syria, Ahmad busied himself by stalking The Grayzone, even phoning its editor, Max Blumenthal, to threaten him against publishing a factual investigation of the Syrian White Helmets in 2016. 

While Ahmad’s recent work at the spook-infested Newlines think tank has failed to generate much interest, even among his fellow regime change cheerleaders, we noticed his prophecy on Saturday that Prigozhin’s “coup” would lead to the collapse of The Grayzone, the international committee of the Democratic Socialists of America, and “the death of Aaron Mate’s career.” 

At the time of publication, we are still triggering Ahmad’s rage-a-holic personality while his own media career has gone about as far as Prigozhin’s march toward Moscow.

This article is from The Grayzone.

The views expressed are solely those of the author and may or may not reflect those of Consortium News.

50 comments for “Casualties of Russian ‘Civil War’: Beltway Experts

  1. anon
    June 28, 2023 at 21:45

    What are the odds that Polish cannon fodder will shortly replace Ukrainian cannon fodder, with F16s based in Poland?
    All they can do is escalate.

  2. Janet
    June 28, 2023 at 18:06

    Made my day!

  3. vinnieoh
    June 28, 2023 at 09:41

    My sister gifted me a subscription to The Atlantic about a year ago, and when the issue with the Applebaum/Goldberg piece arrived I did not want to read it, but forced myself, nonetheless. What I found particularly perverse was not only their absolute hatred for all the official enemies of the US (Russia, China, Iran, Venezuela) but their complete fantasy delusions about the nature and character of the US. I gritted my teeth through much of that reading.

    This Grayzone piece is… interesting but sheds no light on what exactly transpired in Russia over the weekend. Maybe we’ll eventually know the truth, maybe not.

    When Russia decided to act (SMO) I felt that their action was extremely hazardous (to Russia) which their leaders were well aware of, but felt they had no choice – lose their sovereignty now or lose it later. Strictly Russia vs. Ukraine is of course a non-contest, but we know (those that don’t are being willfully ignorant) that this is a proxy war and when all Ukrainian resources – men and materiel – are expended the war will continue with increasing numbers of American and European fighters and weapons in the field.

    The war in Ukraine is a tragedy not only for Ukraine and Russia, but for all of humanity. To be locked in this absolutely provoked conflict now, as the planet continues its accelerated meltdown.

  4. Gravestone truths
    June 28, 2023 at 01:34

    “MacFoul is my name and I hate Russia.”

  5. Miggy
    June 27, 2023 at 22:10

    Given that the CIA knew for weeks of Prigozhin’s plans, the question that needs an answer to is did Russian intelligence know as well, and not inform Putin?

    There are reports that the Wagner Group was created by Russian intelligence. As such, the Wagner military officers who decided not to join the convoy surely would have told Russian intelligence of Prigozhin’s plans.

    The convoy of thousands of men had to travel a great distance to Rostov, and surely Russian satellite images and other surveillance techniques would have spotted the convoy.

    It may well be that Russian intelligence was acting with western intelligence agencies to insure that the trip successfully reached Rostov.

    If so, Putin may be at more at risk than he realizes.

  6. Arch Stanton
    June 27, 2023 at 18:11

    Just switched on Newsnight on BBC2 (the British bullshit corporation) and who’s on it spouting lies and projecting their deep seated Russiophobia? It’s non-other than Kurt Volker.
    The BBC is as bad as it gets for biased reporting on Ukraine, and it stays totally silent on Assange, I resent paying a license fee to them, if it wasn’t for my partner then I would ditched them ages ago.

  7. Robert Emmett
    June 27, 2023 at 11:55

    We need more details. Was there a prancing pony involved? Gay streamers signifying an uprising floating on the breeze?

    We’re told this was some sort of Russian honor dance, an acceptable display by a high muckety-muck of his displeasure with certain recent turns of event that easily could be appeased then quickly disposed (just over the weekend, as it turns out) to nearly everyone’s satisfaction, except of those who aren’t conversant with Russian culture (pretty safe bet that includes most of us amurcans, along with our clueless ruling class).

    But we’re also told that this is a potentially serious blow to Russia’s prestige & standing with its allies. The bad press (quite bizarrely off its rocker) along with further signs of war-time distress will somehow do damage of some sort (no word whether that threat is yet deemed existential).

    This all must be part of what we are now to call “hybrid” war (but that I prefer to call Hydra war for its many ugly heads that even when cut off can grow back three new ones).

    And it had feck-all to do with the actual “kinetic” war on the ground or the “fiduciary” or “digital” wars (though that hasn’t been proven yet) but rather with the war of memes, schemes & neocon dreams (make that nightmares).

    Speaking of which what has hardly been raised (at least to my satisfaction) ie. the possibility that Perogi was deked, faked into making his move so as to out himself & be removed (with some face saving), with or without his knowledge. Either way makes for a good story, no? Long as we’re just talkin’.

    Hasn’t Russia (and its allies?) indicated it no longer cares what the West thinks or says about them? I mean, would you, if that shoe was on your foot?

    • Valerie
      June 27, 2023 at 16:08

      You prompted me to write a poem Robert, based on your words and references:

      Memes, schemes and neocon dreams
      (make that nightmares)
      The immortal head of Hydra of the West
      Cannot be severed by any means, or laid to rest
      Till that time, who knows; dictates;
      The world with bated breath awaits
      The outcome of these “nightmare” traits.

  8. mgr
    June 27, 2023 at 10:32

    Thanks for this. The truly chilling thought is that these “free thinkers” actually believe their own nonsense. Obviously, “intellect,” or perhaps the ability to string a few tweets together, is not the same as intelligence. And intelligence is in itself a far cry from wisdom. Only in a wickedly distorted society would such bubble heads rise to positions of any influence. But there they are, churning out their venom day after day and feeding the insanity of everyone else. But then, how is this any different from the leaders of US government, media and society at present? In particular, there is no rational thought driving this administration, let alone intellect or wisdom. Just self-interest, egoism and bigotry. So why is the US headed for the toilet? Following and lauding self-serving fools is certainly a sure way to get there.

    If you want additional rational insights on Ukraine, China and geopolitics in general, Judge Napolitano at “Judging Freedom’s” weekly youtube interviews with Scott Ritter, Ray McGovern, Col. Douglas Macgregor (ret), Alastair Crooke, Larry Johnson, Col. Daniel Davis (ret) and others, I have found to be consistently insightful, informative, and reality-based.

  9. Vera Gottlieb
    June 27, 2023 at 10:04

    The more America denies something…the truer it is. Spreading like a cancer all over the world.

  10. susan
    June 27, 2023 at 09:18

    These Washington scum bags need to crawl back into the muck from which they slithered. When will Americans finally wake up to the fact that they are being duped by this excrement?

  11. gwb
    June 27, 2023 at 00:21

    Speaking of Michael McFaul, you all might enjoy this – do a Google search for this post from The Exiled, from July 2012:


  12. Colin Purdy
    June 26, 2023 at 20:28

    And, of course, these folks all slander Putin as a “dictator” when he’s actually the elected president whose domestic approval ratings have never dropped below 70%, often in the 80s, like probably about now. Just sooo ripe for a homegrown coup!? Oh, right, all those votes and polls “at the end of a gun barrel”!!

  13. Natushechka
    June 26, 2023 at 19:44

    The best peace plan on offer: everyone listen to the General Assembly of the United Nations, please. Two resolutions. Ukraine is a sovereign country with fixed internationally recognized borders. No justification for war, especially when there were zero threats against the aggressor country.

    • Caliman
      June 26, 2023 at 22:33

      Well, as long as the borders are indeed “fixed” so that people who want to be in Russia are in Russia and those who want to be in Ukraine are in Ukraine, then, yes, that should work out …

    • DaveG
      June 27, 2023 at 08:24

      Completely to the contrary of this, knowledgeable scholars Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer insist that the war was “provoked, provoked, provoked.” But this truth is buried under daily propaganda and narrative control and disingenuous arguments about Ukraine “sovereignty,” which has been fatally compromised since at least 2014, when the current war began.

    • Red Star
      June 27, 2023 at 08:29

      Bit of a problem regarding Ukraine’s borders, insomuch as 4 regions have voluntarily become part of the Russian Federation, Crimea has voted to do the same.

      What are you suggesting should be done about them ? Make them return to Ukraine against their will ? The same Ukraine that waged war on them since the 2014 coup, causing 14,000+ casualties ? I can see that working….

    • Vera Gottlieb
      June 27, 2023 at 10:06

      But it was OK when Ukrainian forces started attacking the Donbass region – going after ethnic Russians, back in 2014 – killing up to 10,000 people? Putin’s mistake was not to intervene right there and then.

    • Colin Purdy
      June 27, 2023 at 21:15

      Here’s somd perspective on your supposed “zero threats” against the “aggressor country”:

  14. RWilson
    June 26, 2023 at 19:13

    It sure looks like the DC hawks firmly believed a rebellion was happening in Russia. And interestingly, the British papers had been predicting a rebellion in Russia led by Prigohzin, according to Alexander Mercouris at The Duran. That looks beyond coincidence to me. More like an MI6 operation. And Scott Ritter interviewed by Judge Napolitano reported that the Russian FSB had broken up Ukrainian cells in Russia that were poised to start launching terror attacks when Prigohzin’s rebellion began. When those attacks didn’t materialize, Prigohzin knew he was sunk, and had to go to plan B. All in all, it looks like a NATO coup attempt that was stopped in its tracks. To the great surprise of the Neocon war fanatics who were prepared in advance for their PR offensive.

    So now the CIA has to pretend it knew little about it (echos of Nordstream), and the Neocon fanatics have to figure out a way to save face. Meanwhile, to the rest of the world Putin looks even stronger for having stamped out NATO’s coup attempt so promptly.

    • IJ Scambling
      June 27, 2023 at 13:07

      Thanks, a good clarifying comment. Additionally, Larry Johnson on Judge Nap (6/27 morning) suggests that very likely it was a psy-op in which Prigohzen worked to lure the west into believing civil disorder could happen, which instead led on to busting up an attempt at internal division and civil war. All the indications about a rebellion known ahead of time so widely support this view, since obviously Putin would also know about it. Somewhat against this idea of Prigozhen as double-agent is the 30 air personnel supposedly shot down (which Larry Johnson doubts, having seen no evidence of it). The test on this theory, versus Prig’s selling out his country, is whether he stays alive. Meanwhile, Putin has seized the advantage, strengthening the country and the military.

  15. Brian Eggar
    June 26, 2023 at 18:58

    I am left with deep admiration to those people like those at The Greyzone who spend so much time and effort scouring the internet to put these articles together

    I do not have that patience but fully apreciate the work that they do

  16. Lois Gagnon
    June 26, 2023 at 18:55

    Putin continues to make liars out of Western pundits who have only gained the positions they occupy by kissing up to Russophobic regime change enthusiasts. At some point, the public will have to confront the bottomless depths of depravity practiced by these buffoons as lie after lie is exposed. What a clown show is the US and it’s vassals.

  17. June 26, 2023 at 18:39

    Thanks, Max, for another fine report. It’s always difficult to read the extent of the neocons’ individual and collective moral depravity and intellectual dishonesty, without wishing them harm. I will simply have to rest in the hope that in the end, some form of justice is meted proportionate to their crimes against humanity. Those who knowingly serve the Empire’s anti-humane agenda via the constant peddling of lies are in my view as culpable as those at the top.

    So thanks for continuing to shine light on the dark corners of their habitations and foul minds.

  18. June 26, 2023 at 18:26

    Thanks so much for reading the neocons, so that we don’t have to, and for taking them down in such entertaining fashion.

  19. Arlene Hickory
    June 26, 2023 at 16:29

    Retiring after 24 years treating combat veterans suffering from PTSD, I learned to separate fact from fiction. Therapy is work for both participants wringing the truth from suffering. Here again… this article I experienced a similar outcome…yes, the truth will set you free.

  20. June 26, 2023 at 16:04

    Great article, if perhaps, premature. Thank you.

  21. Roger Milbrandt
    June 26, 2023 at 15:40

    Thanks for this: I think we all needed a bit of schadenfreud.
    Very well done

  22. Susan Siens
    June 26, 2023 at 15:38

    I screamed with laughter while reading this essay! Many thanks, Max and Wyett!

  23. Judge Barbier
    June 26, 2023 at 15:12

    I would imagine that the very worst human parasites ( tapeworms, liver flukes etc) would instinctively reject the ‘ inside of Jen Psaki’ as being far too poisonous for any self respecting creature.

    Not so for Pelosi et Al.

  24. IJ Scambling
    June 26, 2023 at 14:42

    Well, we’re left with many questions on just WHAT was that all about? And “farce,” yes, is supposed to be somewhat funny. So here’s one answer: we’ve just witnessed a Prigohzen SMO due to his view of improper treatment of the Wagner forces and overall RF incompetence (plus additional views and perspectives):


    • RMM
      June 27, 2023 at 11:32

      “just WHAT was that all about: = Good question.
      Prig’s complaints are justified from his viewpoint: he wants an all-out war on Ukraine.
      However, the Russian command wants to “demilitarise Ukraine” (one of 3 goals), and that’s best done by just letting Ze send his army to the front, there to be decimated – without spreading the war to other parts of Ukraine.
      Prig disagrees – but he is only a cog in the machine. Rather tragic for him.
      From this angle: Prig’s move was a protest mutiny, rather than a coup attempt.

  25. June 26, 2023 at 14:32

    Jail US war criminals. Jail anyone in the US that financed/armed Ukraine’s Nazis. Jail the shareholders of war profiteers that lobbied to arm/finance Ukraine’s Nazis, and dissolve the corporate charters of Blackrock, Vanguard and other war profiteers that participated in this treason againt the people and constitution of the USA.

  26. Valerie
    June 26, 2023 at 14:26

    Looks like they all took a crash course on astrology. LOL

  27. Mike
    June 26, 2023 at 14:19

    Nice summary. But I take serious issue with the comments about Peter Hotez. There are plenty of examples of con artists like RFK, Jr. espousing conspiracy theories in ways that put true experts at a serious disadvantage in debates. The expert has to spend enormous amount of time clarifying and correcting and when they are done they look like picky nerds arguing over minutia. But in the case of things like vaccines, we are talking about people’s lives being lost, not simply minutia. Conspiracy theorists like RFK work hard to speed doubt, not actually win the debate. Just getting a true expert to debate them give them the credibility they do not deserve to have. You end up with a moron’s opinion versus an expert opinion becoming he-said she said, with two totally unbalanced positions (one bad and one good) being considered equal. Hotez is smart not to debate a hack like RFK.

    • Afdal
      June 26, 2023 at 18:40

      Here’s a quote from Galileo that you should really mull over:

      “If what we are discussing were a point of law or of the humanities, in which neither true nor false exists, one might trust in subtlety of mind and readiness of tongue and in the greater experience of the writers, and expect he who excelled in those things to make his reasoning most plausible, and one might judge it to be the best. But in the natural sciences, whose conclusions are true and necessary and have nothing to do with human will, one must take care not to place oneself in the defense of error; for here a thousand Demostheneses and a thousand Aristotles would be left in the lurch by every mediocre wit who happened to hit upon the truth for himself. Therefore, give up this idea and this hope of yours that there may be men so much more leaned, erudite, and well-read than the rest of us as to be able to make that which is false become true in defiance of nature.”
      –Galileo, Dialogue Concerning the Two Chief World Systems

      “Experts” who are afraid of debates aren’t experts; they are charlatans.

    • DD
      June 26, 2023 at 19:43

      Theories, opinions, analysis not sanctioned by the ruling elites are to be derisively called conspiracy theories. This is how the C.I.A. decided to handle criticism of the ridiculous Warren Commission report.

    • RWilson
      June 26, 2023 at 19:45

      I take serious issue with your view on RFK Jr and the Covid vaccines. Speaking as a scientist who has taught courses on statistical analysis of data, and who followed the debate over Covid and the vaccines on multiple sources, I came to the conclusion that the corporate media was lying about Covid and the vaccines just as they have lied about the profitable war scams.

      For example, one paper I read reviewed over 200 studies on the effect of Ivermectin on Covid, narrowed these down to the 25 most solid studies, and found overwhelming statistically significant benefits from Ivermectin. Based on that report, and numerous other reports and discussions with expert professionals on independent websites, I treated myself for Omicron with Ivermectin. It’s effectiveness was dramatic. Within an hour my symptoms were gone and I had a normal day. I did the same for five days in a row with the same results. Then the symptoms no longer re-appeared. The probability of getting five heads in five coin flips is 0.03. That is rare enough to meet the standards for publication in a scientific journal (although the number of trials is too small). In my view, the corporate media’s demonization of Ivermectin was just one of their many lies. It was essential because if Ivermectin had been recognized as a treatment, the vaccines could not have been granted emergency use authorization. And those billions in profits would have been lost.

      For more on Ivermectin I recommend Jimmy Dore’s interview.
      Leading Doctor Exposes TRUTH About Anti-Ivermectin Propaganda Campaign

      For update discussions of this subject I recommend
      The Darkhorse Podcast.

      • Valerie
        June 27, 2023 at 03:40

        “just one of their many lies.”

        Exactly. And the “fear” they promoted.

    • Caliman
      June 26, 2023 at 22:39

      A true expert can make a fool look a fool in a few sentences … I think that’s what Hotez is afraid of …

    • IJ Scambling
      June 27, 2023 at 10:34

      You should study RFK Jr’s The Real Anthony Fauci. That is not a wild bunch of hysteria from a con man screaming out his theories. In fact, he doesn’t offer his own theories but those of numerous medical experts and scientists. It’s a report of expert sources questioning the covid pandemic and Fauci’s role in pushing it. Kennedy as con artist is a ludicrously uninformed prejudice being fostered by the Establishment.

  28. Jeff Harrison
    June 26, 2023 at 14:10

    LMAO. These guys obviously thought that this was a Washington regime color revolution.

  29. lester
    June 26, 2023 at 14:03

    Are these news fantasists gone for good? Or will they revive once again, like Varney the Vampire?

  30. Carolyn L Zaremba
    June 26, 2023 at 13:37

    I was enjoying this article until Max attacked Dr. Hotez. Max is in fact an anti-vax conspiracy theorist, along with his new pet toy RFK. Your credibility is shot with me, Max. I no longer trust your judgment.

    • Andrew Nichols
      June 26, 2023 at 22:03

      One error and you bag him for good? You must be the Son of God.

      • lester
        June 28, 2023 at 22:19

        It’s a big error. Without vaccines we’d be dying of polio, like my mother did in 1959. Smallpos wouls still be the big killer is tas thriough most of the 20th century.

    • J Anthony
      June 27, 2023 at 06:29

      I don’t think so, Max has acknowledged plenty that vaccines work. His suspicions on the COVID vax was something else, yes, and possibly justified.

  31. Em
    June 26, 2023 at 13:19

    Anne Applebaum, as American as apple-pie in the sky, with fake cream on top!

    • Drew Hunkins
      June 26, 2023 at 16:40


  32. Drew Hunkins
    June 26, 2023 at 13:08

    These neocon-Ziocon militarist pundits should have never been taken seriously after 2003.

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