CN Editor Joe Lauria on “By Any Means Necessary” on how US could stop the war & why it keeps it going; the White House press corp’s cluelessness; & the danger of extending economic war to China.
Joe Lauria was interviewed by Sean Blackmon and Jacquie Luqman on the radio program “By Any Means Necessary.” One hour. This video was available for about 12 hours before YouTube removed it in several countries. It disappeared completely from this page. It can be heard here on the program’s web page. Lauria’s interview closes the show and begins at 57:00.
OMG. At about 6:20pm CST, “US Could Have Stopped the War” video stopped playing with pop-up message that it is no longer available in “my country.” My country ’tis of thee, is no more a land of liberty. This censorship is unacceptable and serves as damning evidence. Hope a transcript will soon be made.
Is there a transcript?
As a subscriber I’ll request a response to my email.
This is such an excellent overview of what has taken place in Ukraine since 2014 and the US role in it. Thank you Joe.
What an ugly spectacle is declining empire on the world stage. I am so ashamed of my country and a large swath of its ignorant population. Karma is coming it it won’t be fun. It is well earned unfortunately.
It seems “independence” is not an accurate translation of the word used in the original language of the referendum text.
Jacques Baud knows Russian and he explains it here in the third paragraph.
These are the words of Russia’s ambassador to the UN, Vassily Nebenzia, which carry far more weight than Jacques Baud:
“Statements of some our colleagues suggest that recognition of the LPR and DPR came out of the blue, without any reasons. Of course, this is not so. We must remind that the LPR and DPR *declared independence* from Ukraine back in 2014, but we recognized it only today, despite broad support for such step both in the republics and among the Russian society that could be seen at the very beginning.”
If the referenda would have been about autonomy Russia would have recognized them because Moscow recognized autonomy as spelled out in Minsk. But Russia did not recognize those referenda for eight years because they were about independence, not autonomy within Ukraine.
The US started this war, why would they want to stop it when the American public is making it clear they are truly war mongers at heart and could care less about the truth or the dire consequences we are facing right now. “Damn the nuclear weapons, full speed ahead” …
Thanks for the very complete summary Joe.
Just one thing. The Donbass was not declaring independence from Ukraine but rather autonomy (J. Baud, retired Swiss Intelligence officer).
Signs show the the US is preparing to escalate the level of chaos in Ukraine by sendind a peacekeeping force in the territory of Ukraine from Poland and Belarus is ready to step in.
Incorrect. Donetsk and Lugansk voted in referenda in 2014 for independence from Ukraine. The Minsk Accords called for their autonomy while remaining inside Ukraine. That is what Russia supported until the end in the week before the invasion when Russia finally recognized the independence that they declared eight years earlier.
This is a thoroughly excellent synopsis by Mr. Lauria on the real causes, consequences and long-term ramifications of the war in Ukraine. A one-hour primer on what every American needs to know, but is being denied. Thank you.
“how US could stop the war & why it keeps it going”
Some assert that journalists need a sliver of glass in their hearts, whilst strategists need triple glazing.
Strategists, not panicking fantasists in Washington and elsewhere, tend to understand that prime/sole agency does not exist and that war is a lateral process not a discrete linear event.
Americans in general are ignorant of Europe and Russia as well – not talking about the Ukraine or Crimea.
Minor point Joe, the massacre you refer to took place in Odessa not Crimea. 45 people were chased into the trade union building which was set alight by right-wing extremists and any soul within the building who managed to get out were clubbed to death outside. I would add that after this incident Ukrainian forces drove along the Black Sea coast into the town of Mariupol in 2014 and proceeded to open fire on civilians. It seems that Mariupol – which has been under Ukrainian occupation since 2914 – has been a key strategic target for both sides.
Yes Joe mispoke and made an error such as 2914.
“Mariopol – which has been under Ukrainian occupation since 2914 ”
Mariypol was the headquarters and base location of the Azov battalion so positioned in 2014 to block the other parts of Donbass and engage in regular lethal forays into the other parts of Donbass from 2014 onwards.
In respect of the Russian Federation and its associates, the strategic significance of Mariypol was in killing the Azov battalion whilst as far as possible mimimising civilian causalties which increased causalties/deaths of the forces of The Russian Federation, and the strategy of the Azov battalion was to choose the city as battle field, use the population as human shields, and retain these human shields by refusing to allow them to avail themselves of guaranteed safety corridors mutually agreed by the Ukrainian government and representatives of the Russian Federation.
These practices have been circumvented in the last week facilitating the escapes of various human shields to locations such as Dnipro in transit to other locations and the accelerating destruction of the Azov battalion including through modern artillery methods.
If you have fought in any war you may realise that sole agency, perfection and absolute avoidance of blowback is impossible – the underming of such myths being a component part of why Mr. Assange may be exported to a different location in “The United States of America”.
In our quest for world domination, we plan some of the. most horrific scenes.
Always with the thought that some one else will die , some other family will be blown apart !
Just the idea of the US being the only world power is fomented by imo unbalanced people. Sick individuals in fact.
Just in case Peter Kuznick denies dismissing the veracity of Nazis (really a heuristic for Banderite racist nationalists) and intentional ethnic cleansing and genocide in Ukraine, here is the recording from “Fault Lines” on Sputnik Radio. It’s almost 9 min. into his half hour segment that starts at 2:34:33. He also implies that the Russians are losing on the ground.
Those are his factual errors, but his legal and moral analysis (absolute condemnation of the Russian operation) is equally disturbing. There is an argument for just war, and invocation of UN Charter article 51 has merit in this case. Were he not so adamant and certain, while at the same time displaying his ignorance, I might be less critical. As it is, for a university professor to make such public statements validates Andrei Martyanov’s opinion of American academia.
Amerians in general seem incredibly ignorant of present day post-Communist China.
Except WAR is America’s greatest export. And, America just leaves the field and never has to clean up anything.
I am in the UK but it seems so. I doubt if the Chinese are any better informed about the west. That is the tragedy.
More’s the pity. If China knew more of the west, no doubt they’d insist on an independent, self-sustaining east.
“they’d insist on ”
To insist is to be a supplicant dependent in part on the agreement of others.
To present an ultimatum is also to be dependent in part on the aquiescence of others.
In December 2021 the People’s Republic of China and The Russian Federation presented notices of intent to both “The United States of America” and “NATO” which both these recipients interpreted to be ultimata, despite subsequent developments.
Both the presenters and many others throughout the world were/are aware that notices of intents were delivered, not supplications, including desist notices, and have acted accordingly, since almost everyday in various ways courtesy of the West, others increase their knowledge of the West.