The Real Mueller-Gate Scandal

Craig Murray blasts the special counsel for naming and condemning people without ever interviewing them.  

By Craig Murray

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is either a fool, or deeply corrupt. I do not think he is a fool.

I did not comment instantly on the Mueller report as I was so shocked by it, I have been waiting to see if any other facts come to light in justification. Nothing has. I limit myself here to that area of which I have personal knowledge — the leak of Democratic National Committee and John Podesta emails to WikiLeaks. On the wider question of the corrupt Russian 1 percent having business dealings with the corrupt Western 1 percent, all I have to say is that if you believe that is limited in the U.S. by party political boundaries, you are a fool.

On the DNC leak, Mueller started with the prejudice that it was “the Russians” and he deliberately and systematically excluded from evidence anything that contradicted that view.

Mueller: Skipped key steps. (White House/Wikimedia Commons)

Mueller, as a matter of determined policy, omitted key steps which any honest investigator would undertake. He did not commission any forensic examination of the DNC servers. He did not interview Bill Binney, a retired technical director at the National Security Agency, the $14 billion a year U.S. surveillance organization. He did not interview Julian Assange,  publisher of WikiLeaks. His failure to do any of those obvious things renders his report worthless.

There has never been, by any U.S. law enforcement or security service body, a forensic examination of the DNC servers, despite the fact that the claim those servers were hacked is the very heart of the entire investigation. Instead, the security services simply accepted the “evidence” provided by the DNC’s own IT security consultants, Crowdstrike, a company which is politically aligned to the Clintons.

That is precisely the equivalent of the police receiving a phone call saying:

“Hello? My husband has just been murdered. He had a knife in his back with the initials of the Russian man who lives next door engraved on it in Cyrillic script. I have employed a private detective who will send you photos of the body and the knife. No, you don’t need to see either of them.”

No Honest Policeman 

There is no honest policeman in the world who would agree to that proposition, and neither would Mueller were he remotely an honest man. 

Two facts compound this failure. 

The first is the absolutely key word of Bill Binney, an acknowledged world leader in cyber surveillance who is infinitely more qualified than Crowdstrike. Binney states that the download rates for the “hack” given by Crowdstrike are at a speed — 41 megabytes per second — that could not even nearly be attained remotely at the location: thus the information must have been downloaded to a local device, eg a memory stick. Binney has further evidence regarding formatting that supports this. 

Mueller’s identification of “DC Leaks” and “Guccifer 2.0” as Russian security services is something Mueller attempts to carry off by simple assertion. Mueller shows DNC Leaks to have been the source of other, unclassified emails sent to WikiLeaks that had been obtained under a Freedom of Information request and then Mueller simply assumes, with no proof, the same route was used again for the leaked DNC material. His identification of the Guccifer 2.0 persona with Russian agents is so flimsy as to be laughable. Nor is there any evidence of the specific transfer of the leaked DNC emails from Guccifer 2.0 to WikiLleaks. Binney asserts that had this happened, the packets would have been instantly identifiable to the NSA. 

Bill Binney: Not interviewed. (Miquel Taverna / CCCB via Flickr)

Bill Binney: Not interviewed. (Miquel Taverna / CCCB via Flickr)

Bill Binney is not a “deplorable.” He is a former technical director of the NSA. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo met him to hear his expertise on precisely this matter. Binney offered to give evidence to Mueller. Yet did Mueller call him as a witness? No. Binney’s voice is entirely unheard in the report. 

Mueller’s refusal to call Binney and consider his evidence was not the action of an honest man.

Vault 7 Release

The second vital piece of evidence we have is from WikiLeaks Vault 7 release of CIA material, in which the CIA themselves outline their capacity to “false flag” hacks, leaving behind misdirecting clues including scraps of foreign script and language. This is precisely what Crowdstrike claim to have found in the “Russian hacking” operation.

So here we have Mueller omitting the key steps of independent forensic examination of the DNC servers and hearing Bill Binney’s evidence. Yet this was not for lack of time. While deliberately omitting to take any steps to obtain evidence that might disprove the “Russian hacking” story, Mueller had boundless time and energy to waste in wild goose chases after totally non-existent links between WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign, including the fiasco of interviewing Roger Stone and Randy Credico. 

It is worth remembering that none of the charges against Americans arising from the Mueller inquiry have anything to do with Russian collusion or Trump-WikiLeaks collusion, which simply do not exist. The charges all relate to entirely extraneous matters dug up, under the extraordinary U.S. system of “justice,” to try to blackmail those charged with unrelated crimes turned up by the investigation, into fabricating evidence of Russian collusion. The official term for this process of blackmail is of course “plea-bargaining.”

Mueller has indicted 12 Russians he alleges are the GRU agents responsible for the “hack.” The majority of these turn out to be real people who, ostensibly, have jobs and lives which are nothing to do with the GRU. Mueller was taken aback when, rather than simply being in absentia, a number of them had representation in court to fight the charges. Mueller had to back down and ask for an immediate adjournment as soon as the case opened, while he fought to limit disclosure. His entire energies since on this case have been absorbed in submitting motions to limit disclosure, individual by individual, with the object of ensuring that the accused Russians can be convicted without ever seeing, or being able to reply to, the evidence against them. Which is precisely the same as his attitude to contrary evidence in his report.

Julian Assange: Unfairly accused. (Espen Moe)

Mueller’s failure to examine the servers or take Binney’s evidence pales into insignificance compared to his attack on Julian Assange. Based on no conclusive evidence, Mueller accuses Assange of receiving the emails from Russia. Most crucially, he did not give Assange any opportunity to answer his accusations. For somebody with Mueller’s background in law enforcement, declaring somebody in effect guilty, without giving them any opportunity to tell their side of the story, is plain evidence of malice. 

Inexplicably, for example, the Mueller report quotes a media report of Assange stating he had “physical proof” the material did not come from Russia, but Mueller simply dismisses this without having made any attempt at all to ask Assange himself. 

It is also particularly cowardly as Assange was and is held incommunicado with no opportunity to defend himself. Assange has repeatedly declared the material did not come from the Russian state or from any other state. He was very willing to give evidence to Mueller, which could have been done by video-link, by interview in the Ecuadorian embassy or by written communication. But as with Binney and as with the DNC servers, the entirely corrupt Mueller was unwilling to accept any evidence which might contradict his predetermined narrative.

‘Courier’ Ignored

Mueller’s section headed “The GRU’s Transfer of Stolen Material to Wikileaks” is a ludicrous farrago of internet contacts between WikiLeaks and persons not proven to be Russian, transferring material not proven to be the DNC leaks. It too is destroyed by Binney and so pathetic that, having pretended he had proven the case of internet transfer, Mueller then gives the game away by adding “The office cannot rule out that stolen documents were transferred by intermediaries who visited during the summer of 2016.” He names Andrew Muller-Maguhn as a possible courier. Yet again, he did not ask Muller-Maguhn to give evidence. Nor did he ask me, and I might have been able to help him on a few of these points.

To run an “investigation” with a pre-determined idea as to who are the guilty parties, and then to name and condemn those parties in a report, without hearing the testimony of those you are accusing, is a method of proceeding that puts the cowardly and corrupt Mueller beneath contempt.

Mueller gives no evidence whatsoever to back up his simple statement that Seth Rich was not the source of the DNC leak. He accuses Julian Assange of “dissembling” by referring to Seth Rich’s murder. It is an interesting fact that the U.S. security services have shown precisely the same level of interest in examining Seth Rich’s computers that they have shown in examining the DNC servers. It is also interesting that this murder features in a report of historic consequences like that of Mueller, yet has had virtually no serious resource put into finding the killer.

Mueller’s condemnation of Julian Assange for allegedly exploiting the death of Seth Rich, would be infinitely more convincing if the official answer to the question “who murdered Seth Rich?” was not “who cares?”

Craig Murray is an author, broadcaster and human rights activist. He was British ambassador to Uzbekistan from August 2002 to October 2004 and rector of the University of Dundee from 2007 to 2010. This article first appeared on his website.

74 comments for “The Real Mueller-Gate Scandal

  1. May 25, 2019 at 11:35

    A question for Mr. Murray:

    I have been reading the Mueller report, and greatly appreciate your gloss on it, which largely re-enforces my own take: what he failed to investigate, and what he presumed, puts any claim that his report is “the final word” on very shaky ground. One of Mueller’s claims, however, is that US intel confirmed that the GRU did searches for certain phrases that are in the Guccifer 2.0 communications before those communications were made public. I have followed Adam Carter’s work, and so had presumed that Guccifer 2.0 was an American creation, but what about this keystroke business? Thank you, in advance, for your response.

  2. Dave Ross
    May 18, 2019 at 10:49

    If Seth Rich was your source, then FUCKING PROVE IT! They stakes are far too high to play coy about it. Two nuclear superpowers are closer to war than any time since the Cuban Missile Crisis and freedom of the press is at stake in the whole democratic world. Wikileaks proving that Rich was their source would shatter the Russiagate narrative. Just implying it with a reward for solving his murder isn’t enough.

    • Norumbega
      May 19, 2019 at 11:15

      We should be demanding that John Durham interview Murray, Assange, Kim Dotcom, Sy Hersh and others who can testify about the sources rather than just calling for them to go public with complete descriptions of what they know. And we ought to demand immunity to the surviving sources themselves in exchange for their testimony. WikiLeaks does have a moral obligation to protect their sources, after all. One can say they’ve already violated that obligation by dropping strong hints or even flat claims that Seth Rich was one of their sources. But if Seth Rich WAS one of their sources, then Assange’s and Murray’s public statements as well as the offer of reward money could well express their felt moral obligation to a source in terms of the desire to get justice by solving his murder.

      I would like to stress that not only has WikiLeaks implied that Seth Rich may have been one of their sources with the reward money, but Assange and Murray have also implied this (or at least come very close to implying this) in their public statements, and in Assange’s case, seem to have told others in private.

      File-sharing entrepreneur Kim Dotcom claims direct personal knowledge that Rich was involved in the DNC leak.

      Investigative journalist Sy Hersh in the leaked audio recording claims to have seen or had read to him an FBI report indicating that Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks, submitted a sample of emails to WikiLeaks and requested money for the rest.

      Investments manager Ed Butowski’s claims that his information comes from from a person who had just returned from a visit with Assange (a person ex-CIA analyst Larry Johnson claims to also know), and claims that Rich downloaded the DNC emails on a $56 Western Digital external hard drive; that Seth’s brother Aaron Rich was also involved; that Seth Rich’s parents first acknowledged that they knew this when he first contacted them; and that a transaction occurred on June 23, 2016 in which Rich was paid a little over $48,000.

      Matt Couch of America First Media has claimed that a “person in the media” who met with Assange in the Ecuadorian Embassy reported to him Assange’s words: “I’m not saying this is how it happened, but I could buy something on Ebay, right?…” and “I paid the kids.”

      It is pretty clear that Butowski’s attorney Ty Clevenger has also talked to at least one of these underlying sources, besides his client.

      Larry Johnson indicates (see my post farther below) that a different source from the one mentioned above has confirmed to him that the FBI knew that Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks.

      It is clear that Craig Murray is claiming that the DNC leak was from an American source who was inside the DNC. His specific statements regarding Seth Rich have to be taken as implying a rational basis (set of objective facts) for thinking Rich was indeed the leaker (with the disclaimer of not confirming whether he actually was or wasn’t).

      But Murray has clearly stated that he himself has never met Seth Rich and that his information about the source of the DNC leak is indirect (compared to his personal knowledge about the source of the Podesta leak). Presumably he knows the identity of the DNC leaker because Assange told him.

      Murray’s claim of direct knowledge is in regards to the person he met on September 25, 2016, at Massachusetts-39th Trail near American University (as we may infer from his description found in the interview on Jason Goodman’s channel, June 2017). Murray is clear that the Podesta leak had a different source than the DNC leak, but he insists that this person was also American. We may clearly infer from his interviews to Scott Horton and David Swanson that the person he actually met was involved in the Podesta leak (as opposed to the DNC leak), and that this person had legal access to US intelligence.

      Steve Pieczenik is not someone who I take with a high degree of trust, but he also claims (on November 1, 2016 and in a few places elsewhere) that intelligence sources familiar to him had leaked the Podesta materials to WikiLeaks.

      Michael Caputo’s account of an NSA contractor contacting him through a friend acting as intermediary (separately from the approach by FBI informant “Henry Greenberg”) may also be of possible interest in this connection, including his claim to have heard one bit of information through this channel that later came out in the Podesta leak.

      Bill Binney and Larry Johnson’s work on the DNC and Podesta files published by WikiLeaks (originally published on the Sic Semper Tyrannis blog in February) establish that the DNC files were saved to FAT formatted media (such as thumb drive, CD-ROM, or a $56 Western Digital hard drive) at at around the same time they were obtained on May 23 and 25, 2016 (since the last DNC e-mails were dated May 25, 2016), and before WikiLeaks received them. On the other hand they did not find FAT formatting on the Podesta files. This is consistent with Murray’s claim that the two sets of files had different origins. The Forensicator’s more detailed recent study on the WikiLeaks DNC emails should also be consulted in this connection.

      Yes, I can understand the impatience to know more. But I hope it is useful in the meantime to assemble together the claims already in the public domain that are known to exist.

    • Norumbega
      May 19, 2019 at 11:35

      I have written a long reply giving the relevant claims already in the public domain, but as my comment is not visible, we can assume it is awaiting moderation. My earlier long post (below) took as much as three days to appear publicly. So please stay tuned.

      Edit: Now, my comment referred to here seems to be visible again – very much quicker than in past experience.

    • LJ
      May 19, 2019 at 17:18

      Bit too dramatic and narrow there. I suggest that attacking Persia again would be way / far more stoopit in a historical sense. After all, Iran is basically, Shia Islam. That means in the long run, We, the USA, the evil empire will lose. Do the Math.Forget Nuclear War that is propaganda . 100% Bullshit. When I was a child I remember being taught to ” Duck and Cover” by Catholic Nuns all named Sister Mary Something. Bullshit then, bullshit now, even with Obama-san dumping 1 Trillion USD into modernizing the US Nuclear War Arsenal.( No, that is not a Soccer Team in the English Premier League. That is our deterrent to Soviet Aggression ). That our Corporate Media FAKE News does not point this bullshit out is pretty telling. The Seth Rich murder was a minuscule road bump. I am sorry for the effect of that senseless killing on any and all who ultimately have and will continue to feel the repercussions of that Capital Crime.

  3. B Frank
    May 16, 2019 at 16:20

    Mr. Murray,
    You certainly have a way with colorful language that distorts the truth: “wild goose chase, renders report worthless, false flag hacks, matters dug-up. This sounds like it is a part of Donald Trump’s vocabulary that is used to trick the American people who you believe buy this stuff. What really insults me is this phrase: “Muller declaring Assange guilty without giving him a chance to tell his side of the story.” Isn’t that what Donald Trump does to every women, every minority, and every person who is different?

    • Norumbega
      May 17, 2019 at 19:56

      Craig Murray and Julian Assange both claim knowledge of the actual sources that provided WikiLeaks with the DNC and Podesta emails, asserting that they were not Russian. Murray specifically alleges that the sources were both American, the former from within the DNC and the latter from within US intelligence, and neither having any relation to Guccifer 2.0.

      The Mueller report alleges otherwise, but fails to dispute that WikiLeaks was already on June 12, 2016 in possession of leaks related to Hillary Clinton Assange intended to publish.

      It asserts that files transferred to WikiLeaks by the Guccifer 2.0 persona (which it claims was the Russian GRU despite radical implausibilities) on July 14 were the same ones it published on July 22, an interval of time far to short for verification of their authenticity. The only relevant quotation (which also appears in the indictment of the alleged GRU officers) is so elliptic that it cannot be rationally taken as establishing any connection between the July 14 transfer and the July 22 publication.

      It is indeed outrageous that the Mueller report charges Assange with deflection in his references to Seth Rich without any attempt to hear Assange’s account of what happened – or interview other witnesses with plausible claims to knowledge, such as Murray, Kim Dotcom or Sy Hersh. If they are lying, he can charge them with that. But it is striking that with his basically unlimited resources, he failed even to try to interview them.

      I’m all for vigorous differences of opinion about Donald Trump, but your last sentence reeks of Trump Derangement.

      What brought me back to you comment, is that I happened to have just watched George Galloway’s amazing 2005 Senate testimony in full, where he was finally permitted to “tell his side of the story” after he had already been “convicted” in the court of neocon-neolib opinion of corruptly benefiting from the UN “Oil for Food” program. The parallels between the lies used to justify war on Iraq and the Russiagate propaganda now embraced by the any-blue-will-do crowd are striking.

  4. tom
    May 16, 2019 at 14:55

    And grounding the whole investigation on Russian disinformation (the fake dossier) from Kremlin higher ups bought by Hillary and the DNC by cutouts (Steele, Fusion GPS, Perkins Coie).

    The only Russian collusion that can be proved.

    • Norumbega
      May 16, 2019 at 17:07

      On what grounds do you attribute the disinformation in the Steele Dossier to Russia? Steele’s say-so and Shawn Hannity’s constant repetition? Steele and his “former” employer MI6, the Obama national security establishment, and their collaborators in Ukraine would never themselves deliberately create disinformation to further an anti-Trump and anti-Russia agenda, now would they?

  5. May 15, 2019 at 19:26

    This couldn’t be more perfectly stated. I find it curious that Glenn Greenwald, with his formidable legal mind, accepts the Mueller Report’s a priori assumption that Russians hacked into the DNC and Podesta emails.

    • LJ
      May 16, 2019 at 15:40

      Why do you find this curious? This kind of sleight of hand should be considered as well established protocol in the region ‘a priori’ by now. We are quite obviously post truth and therefore no source in media is trustworthy if it has access to mainstream distribution.. All is disinformation. Welcome to my world. By the way , I remember when and how Greenwald . suddenly became “trustable”. Do you? This kind of stuff will never work with me,. , I was an Altar Boy. I know what those guys are really like. Haha, sorry it really isn’t funny at all, is it? Semi Joke time. Novelist Stephen King, after being run over jogging in a hit and run accident that left him severely injured, was asked by a curious interviewer, “What does it feel like to suffer brain damage?'” . King replied , “Well, I didn’t really notice any difference until I happened to watch the film Titanic and cried at the ending”…. Don’t forget the tissue.

  6. May 15, 2019 at 18:27

    Craigg murray is like the derriere. He was investigating russia collusion with trump campaign and no one else

  7. Julia Fryer
    May 15, 2019 at 16:53

    So will you eat crow when none of your theories come to fruition?

  8. Tom T
    May 15, 2019 at 11:59

    That is why Mueller is fighting tooth and nail in court to prevent disclosure. He cant prove the Russian’s hacked the DNC. He cant prove the alleged crime. His main evidence used n his indictment against the Russians is actually allegedly hacked e-mails, hacked by a Ukrainian disinformation outfit, posted to a Russian language blog. Their provenance is worthless so he stands 0 chance of proving their authenticity.

    There are some great debates last year on this subject as last year. If you remember the climate research units made the same “Russians Hacked Us” claim when their information was leaked.

  9. Norumbega
    May 14, 2019 at 20:44

    In discussing that area of the Mueller report of which he claims personal knowledge, but remaining reticent about the details of that personal knowledge, Murray drops a couple of additional hints which may be usefully compiled and compared with what he has said elsewhere.

    However, most of his discussion above is based on arguments that have origins other than his personal knowledge. This is an understandable strategy under the circumstances, but where a number of misconceptions are prevalent, some of these have been allowed to creep into his own commentary. Unfortunately, the result is that some distinctions that Murray himself probably wishes would be better appreciated with respect to his own account of the DNC and Podesta leaks have been blurred.

    Reading between some lines, Murray’s basic account is as follows: The DNC and Podesta leaks to WikiLeaks were from two different sources, both Americans, the former being from within the DNC and the latter from within US intelligence (probably NSA).[1] And he has said flatly, “Guccifer [2.0] is not the source for WikiLeaks.” That is to say, Guccifer 2.0 had nothing to do with either of the two sources of the published materials.

    Murray’s knowledge of the identity of the Podesta leaker is based on a face-to-face meeting in Washington, DC. However, contrary to the widely cited Daily Mail report – which has Murray himself acting as courier for one of the leaks – there was no hand-off of a “thumb drive”, since the materials were by then (Sept. 25, 2016) already safely with WikiLeaks. The purpose of the secret rendezvous was “administrative” only. “You should never, ever believe anything you read in the Daily Mail,” cautioned Murray in an interview on June 19, 2017.

    Murray also appears to know the identity of the DNC leaker – presumably because Assange has told him. In this context, Murray has offered an alternative interpretation of Julian Assange’s statements regarding Seth Rich. On this account, Assange’s concern was that Rich may have been killed by someone who _thought_ he was the leaker – whether correctly or incorrectly. That’s a nice way of avoiding direct confirmation that Rich was indeed the leaker. But it still assumes some rational basis for so thinking existed (regardless of whether Rich’s actual killer(s) knew this and acted with that motivation). Perhaps Rich had been in contact with WikiLeaks but hadn’t actually been source of the DNC materials. Or perhaps Assange knew that Rich had been falsely been made to look like the leaker. (I would not rate this very probable, but this general possibility may be distinguished from Mueller’s charge that Assange himself was dishonestly associating Rich with the DNC leak, in order to deflect attention from the real source.) Or perhaps Seth Rich was indeed the principal person responsible for the DNC leak (This seems most likely).

    See: “December 13, 2016 – Craig Murray: DNC, Podesta emails leaked, not hacked – Episode 4328” Scott Horton YT channel
    “Craig Murray: Russia Played No Role At All In The Email Leaks, interviewed by David Swanson” (December 13, 2016)
    “Free Assange!” Jason Goodman YT channel, June 19, 2017 (in the middle of which is an interview with Murray)

    So getting to the errors in Murray’s post above, the key one is one that many others have also made. The studies of Binney and others regarding download speeds attainable over the internet relate to one particular set of data that Guccifer 2.0 released in September 2016. The metadata refer to a downloading event that occurred on July 5, 2016, which because of the indicated speeds, could not have been accomplished via remote hack, but must have been a local download. (And Guccifer 2.0 had made public statements on July 4 and 6 seemingly referring to this event – see Adam Carter’s timeline at People then go on from this inference to proclaim “it was a leak, not a hack” – as if this conclusion might apply to the DNC or Podesta materials published by WikiLeaks.

    But as pointed out above, Murray elsewhere denies that either the DNC or Podesta materials came from G-2.

    Adding to the confusion, Murray then writes: “Binney has further evidence regarding formatting which supports this.” This sentence refers to Binney’s recent work with Larry Johnson (and separately by The Forensicator), that actually DOES refer to metadata in the DNC and Podesta materials published by WikiLeaks (distinct from the previous work which relates to G-2). They found that all the DNC metadata showed FAT formatting, whereas the Podesta metadata did not. Note that this finding is consistent with Murray’s claim, described above, that the two sets of material had different origins. FAT formatting suggests that the materials had been copied onto storage media such as a thumb drive or CD-ROM – OR a $56 Western Digital hard drive, to name the specific medium that Ed Butowski says his source, returning from London after a visit with Julian Assange [2], indicated Seth Rich actually used.

    Another error in Murray’s article confuses the Mueller indictment of the 12 alleged GRU officers with the indictment of the Internet Research Agency/Concord Catering. Also, in my (non-technical) opinion, the CIA’s obfuscation capabilities may be interesting in themselves but irrelevant to the case at hand. Those are capabilities to carry out hacks, while obfuscating the identity of the state-actor doing the hack. But this is a totally different situation from someone only pretending to be a hacker, which is what I think the G-2 persona was all about. Furthermore, I understand that the steps by which the “Russian breadcrumbs” were actually inserted into some of the documents G-2 released have been explained otherwise, notably by Adam Carter.

    [1] On April 15, I tweeted the following:

    “Ex UK diplomat Craig Murray claims that the DNC and Podesta files were from two different leakers, both Americans, and hints that the former were from a DNC insider and the latter from someone in intelligence or law enforcement. See his interview with Scott Horton, Dec 2016.”

    Murray replied as follows: “Thank you Steven that’s the first tweet I have seen for years that actually understood what I said about the leaks!”

    In the David Swanson interview, Murray says of the two leaks “And basically it’s either the DNC or the NSA, let me put it that way.”

    [2] In interviews, Butowski has only insinuated that his source talked to Assange. However the lawsuit filed on his behalf by Ty Clevenger says that this source had indeed talked to Assange (see Clevenger’s blog). Larry Johnson in comments under a recent article of his (“Fake news media suffers body blow on case linked to Seth Rich,” Sic Semper Tyrannis, April 29, 2019″) that:
    “Apart from the offer of a reward, I know the person who was speaking to Assange and who then spoke to Ed Butowsky. This person is credible and had access. I personally have no doubt that Seth Rich was the source for the DNC emails. Whether that fact played a role in his subsequent death is something I do not know. But I do think it merits being investigated rather than dismissed outright as a crazy conspiracy.”

    In a previous reply, Johnson had stated regarding the supposedly “discredited” Fox News report by Malia Zimmerman, “I know who Malia talked to. She was right. The FBI knew Seth contacted Assange.”

    Given that earlier reply, I asked, “I’m just curious. Is this the same person who told you and Malia Zimmerman about the FBI’s knowledge of Seth Rich’s contact with WikiLeaks?”

    Johnson’s answer was “No. Different person.”

  10. Dan
    May 14, 2019 at 18:02

    hmmmm I wonder what other large investigation Mueller drop the ball on and produce a bs report after sending the entire crime scene to be melted in China? Are you stumped?? Here’s a hint it’s the same three digits we call the police on in case of an emergency

  11. hetro
    May 14, 2019 at 16:52

    For me, what’s particularly alarming about what we have been witnessing since 2016, and the crisis generated by Trump’s election, is the extent to which The Establishment (meaning sitting governing forces and their sponsors) has taken over official mainstream discourse at this time. Even The Intercept (now mainstream?) cannot put qualifying language (as with “alleged) with “the Russians hacked the DNC and passed it to Assange.” No, reporters on that site are now routinely stating it as fact. I’m reminded of the kind of rhetoric and deception seen during the rise of the Nazis in the 1930’s. Today I was reading on a Yahoo site comments indeed fitting to the name of that organization (thank you Jonathan Swift), a nauseating stream of garbage on Assange, filled with glee at his plight, and entirely misinformed and stupid. I have personally not witnessed in American news an effort to match the Mueller Hoax in terms of beating the drums of self-righteousness and patriotism, of a functioning diversion (as from Clinton problems) and never a more skillfully designed and carried forward brainwashing thoroughness in my experience, that suggests Nixon as inspiration was studied with the objective–hey, this man is going to be an amateur compared to what we will do to follow him! I submit that ignorance is strength is now on full display in the American scene, with cardinal ignoramuses (no, I don’t excuse Trump for having joined them) leading us on. And I would also like to add to Joe Lauria, re his broadcast with Elizabeth Vos on Assange last Sunday, that, contrary to his view that 1984 was modeled after the Soviet Union, I submit the Nazi parallel was more likely, or at least equally as likely, as the source of that vision.

  12. jmg
    May 14, 2019 at 16:35

    Craig Murray: “Special Counsel Robert Mueller is either a fool, or deeply corrupt. I do not think he is a fool.
    “(…) Mueller’s failure to examine the servers or take Binney’s evidence pales into insignificance compared to his attack on Julian Assange.
    “(…) the entirely corrupt Mueller was unwilling to accept any evidence which might contradict his predetermined narrative.”

    It’s not the first time…

    Robert Mueller on Iraq War and WMDs

  13. May 14, 2019 at 16:06

    ‘Mueller, as a matter of determined policy, omitted key steps which any honest investigator would undertake. He did not commission any forensic examination of the DNC servers. He did not interview Bill Binney. He did not interview Julian Assange. His failure to do any of those obvious things renders his report worthless.”

    Well said.

    Good piece.

    I’m not so sure that he is corrupt though.

    He is loyal to one of two factions in Washington, as everyone with a career in Washington is loyal to one of them.

    And both those factions, Republicans and Democrats, completely agree on the needs of America’s empire and on the idea that Russia is an impediment to those needs.

    You really can’t have a political career in Washington without embracing that.

    • hetro
      May 14, 2019 at 16:33

      Corruption surely applies to those who deliberately obfuscate, evade, manipulate and serve a political purpose–all of which applies to Mueller and the overall effort we have witnessed in this hoax. What kind of corruption are you thinking of? Of course, that it doesn’t apply stated in an ironic sense, that with everyone in Washington corrupt we can no longer use the term meaningfully, that’s another argument.

  14. Robert
    May 14, 2019 at 14:41

    The DNC funded Steele dossier and Mueller’s investigation and report were an attempt to frame Trump and his team with Russia collusion. Probably the most concerning point about this frame-up was that it was not just limited to the US. It was an international conspiracy involving, at least, both British and US intelligence agencies and undoubtedly members of their governments. There are two reasons important enough for an international “deep state” to target Trump. First, Trump’s economic nationalism and opposition to the WTO and free trade posed an enormous threat to corporate and financial globalism, and their ever-extending control over national governments. Second, and related to the first, was Trump campaigning to stop replacing stable ME governments with terrorist anarchy, and to negotiate with rather than threaten Russia. These, coupled with Trump’s comments about NATO, posed a massive threat to the military-industrial-financial complex and their attempts to paint Russia and Putin as a major military threat to the US and Europe. Russia banned the international (including USAID)-supported NGOs which were trying to destroy Putin’s Russian nationalism and economic independence, while other states which were resistant to global industrial and financial control, such as Iraq, Iran, Libya and Syria were labelled enemies/dictatorships ripe for overthrow. The State Department, USAID and CIA maintained relationships with government opposition (including terrorists such as Al Qaeda, MEK and Ukrainian neo-Nazis) groups throughout the world to effected these overthrows, often with willing support/instigation from the US military. Once overthrown, the States were ripe for foreign take-over of natural resources. Hillary Clinton and Clinton Foundation pay to play became an influential part of this international “deep state”, installing their supporters in key US government positions, including the DOJ, FBI and CIA, selling arms (Saudi Arabia), and putting trade sanctions on non-compliant countries. The Clinton Foundation also facilitated payment to avoid sanctions. Mass migration situations were created and supported to destroy unions, provide an abundance of cheap labor to increase profits, and divert attention away from globalist economic policies. The US and the world were available at bargain-basement sale prices. NGOs and even intelligence agencies were able to feed MSM with the correct media lines, and those journalists and media outlets which contradicted the official globalist message were quickly targeted, discredited, and dispensed with. This is why 99% of MSM was biased against Trump, ignored a discussion of policy, and promoted the racist, unsuitable-to-be-president attacks. International and Clinton/Democrat-elite control of senior elected government and public servant ranks was so strong, that UK intelligence agencies, the FBI, DOJ and CIA? thought with impunity that they could subvert the law and frame Trump. Thanks to US voters who were more interested in policy than character assassination, corporate globalists failed. Thanks to Trump’s policies US workers are already seeing the benefits through record-low unemployment. Trump is not the suave, sophisticated, smooth-talking President that many people would like, but he is the only President ever to stand up to corporate Democrat and Republican globalists and try to achieve what he promised his voters – support for American manufacturing and jobs.

    • hetro
      May 14, 2019 at 16:28

      I do not have your confidence in Trump, indicated in the last few lines of this analysis. The notion that we are at record low unemployment has already been pointed out that this means many workers now need three jobs to pay the bills, working extraordinary hours at basic low wages as a consequence. Where I live we have thousands of homeless. Homelessness is a disgrace all over the nation, and all gloating words from Trump on the economy are nauseating. As to Trump as the “only President ever to stand up to corporate . . . etc.” I believe you’re in danger of sentimentalizing a man who is too simple-minded in this quest, and whose own globalist tendencies seem to run in a direction of serving campaign strategies primarily (despite succeeding contradictions on what he says and does), as with his current blowhard tough guy act with Iran, and his arrogance in treating this crisis. Otherwise I thought your analysis contained many strong points to consider.

      • Joe
        May 15, 2019 at 04:22

        He also cut taxes, 3.6% unemployment historic lows for blacks and Latinos, Asians and Hispanics as well as 78 year low for women, only because women were working while men,
        were at war. I wil bet you live in a democratic state nd district. California, New York, Seattle, which democratic state and district do you live. Its not a Republican one that’s for sure.

    • David Otness
      May 15, 2019 at 12:30

      You have provided a thoughtful analysis which I appreciate, but like Mr Joe replying in this thread, you veer off at the assertions that Trump gives a flying fook about the average guy. That’s tantamount to buying into ‘Lunchbucket’ and ‘Hands-On’ Joe Biden giving a flying fook about that same demographic. I stand with Mr or Ms Hetro on this.
      Your otherwise appealing to the senses and logic piece was marred however by its lack of paragraphs. If you or anyone actually want to have your thoughts apprehended and comprehended, a wall of words detracts from that possibility and probability. Not everyone has sharp young eyes for reading. But overall, thank you, sir.

    • Bette
      May 15, 2019 at 13:57

      Great comment! You nailed it!!

  15. May 14, 2019 at 13:27

    Thank god for Craig Murray and the rest of these whistleblower folks. What’s clear here is if people such as Assange and Manning are not telling the truth, the government would not be so frightened of what they say. No need to imprison someone who’s just babbling making up nonsense, is there?

    What’s also clear is without these whistleblowers and journalists outlets for them to speak, such as CN and Wikileaks, the public would not have access to the truth. Long gone are the days of Seymour Hersch and Daniel Ellsberg where journalistic integrity had a place in print at the Washington Post and NY Times.

    • Robert
      May 14, 2019 at 14:49

      You are absolutely right, and I can add an addendum to my winded comment above, that Trump voters (commenters on Breitbart News), unlike Democrats, overwhelmingly support Julian Assange.

  16. SotexGuy
    May 14, 2019 at 13:16

    I believe Steven Wasserman, Debbie Wasserman-Shultz’s brother a US attorney in DC was instrumental in quashing the investigation of the murder of Seth Rich.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  17. Andrew Thomas
    May 14, 2019 at 12:54

    Thank you, Mr. Murray. Trump is utterly indefensible. Except with regard to this investigation as it relates to coordination with Russia and massive Russian interference, which has been, thanks to you, Mr. Binney, Mr. McGovern and others, shown to be a complete lie. Which is the narrative that the so-called “resistance “ clings to as if it was holy writ. The people who declared irony dead when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973 were wrong. It was badly wounded, but it survived. Until now.

  18. Rob
    May 14, 2019 at 12:34

    This is a great piece by someone who has claimed to have firsthand knowledge of what actually happened with the stolen DNC emails. Although Mueller did not indict anyone associated with the Trump campaign for colluding or conspiring with Russian agents in the 2016 election, he let stand the charge that Russia had interfered with the election. This charge has attained the status of gospel, even though minimal supporting evidence has been presented to the public and much evidence exists to refute it, if only Mueller had bothered to look. Hence, the Mueller Report, rather than stemming the growing tide of Russophobia, actually raises its level, which could have disastrous consequences for the U.S. and the world.

    Whether Donald Trump sought to obstruct justice is a completely separate issue. It is important to bear that in mind when one is discussing matters with diehard Russiagaters.

    • Dao Gen
      May 15, 2019 at 01:56

      I have to disagree. It is important to completely and tightly link Trump alleged obstruction of justice issues to the whole Russiagate hoax and to the debunked charges that Trump “colluded” with Russia. They cannot be separated; they are interrelated and all equally chimerical. The unproven collusion charges and the fake Russiagate psyop narrative seem to have both been woven out of thin air in order to attempt a soft coup against the president of the US. How could there have been any obstruction of justice by Trump if the various seditious charges being launched against Russia and against him were entirely unjust to begin with? Is obstruction of injustice a crime? How could it be? Preventing injustice is surely a moral and legal duty for any government official. Moreover, although Trump (rather naturally) lost his temper at continually finding outrageous and ludicrous charges being made against him, he did not act to block Mueller’s fake investigation, which seems to have been mainly a smokescreen designed to buy time and to protect the Obama DOJ, FBI, and intel community coup members against being investigated for spying and sedition. If anything, it is Rep. Nadler and his colleagues who are in danger of obstructing justice, that is, blocking a full investigation of an alleged conspiracy to overthrow the president. I hope Nadler, Schiff, Pelosi, et al., will soon wake up, look at reality, and start cooperating with the Attorney General, who is now leading an investigation of possible illegal spying by holdover high-ranking members of the Obama DOJ, FBI, and intelligence community.

      • Noumbega
        May 15, 2019 at 13:10

        Yes, besides illegally exonerating Hillary Clinton and conspiring with foreign intelligence (at least of UK, Ukraine and Italy) to prevent Donald Trump’s election, and afterwards attempting to box Trump in on foreign policy or remove him from office outright – the obvious motive of the Obama security establishment was to prevent the true facts of their earlier behavior from becoming known. That is, the motivation was nothing less than obstruction of justice writ large, where any attempt to so much as lift a finger or say a nasty word against the real conspirators could be construed as “obstruction of justice” or “interference with an investigation.”

        I’m as concerned as anyone here with the Trump administration’s belligerence toward Iran and Venezuela. But it remains important to resist Trump derangement. Exposing this dangerous coup should be a priority for anyone who wants to end the rule of the Borg which will employ the same tactics against anyone who threatens to deviate – whether the perceived “threat” comes from a Trump or a Corbyn or a Gabbard.

        On the dubious and dangerous theory of “obstruction” pursued by Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissman (principal author of the Mueller report) interested readers are referred to Will Chamberlain, “Checkmate”, Human Events, May 1, 2019.

        White House counsel Emmet Flood in a letter to A.G. Barr presents what is to my mind a reasoned case for the inherently political – and hence, illegal, under the specification of the Special Counsel law – form of the Mueller report itself. See “Read the full letter from White House counsel Emmet Flood to A.G. Barr”, NBC News, May 2, 2019. I omit links to hopefully avoid the long delays of the CN comments system.

  19. karlof1
    May 14, 2019 at 12:31

    Bravo Craig! Mueller isn’t the only one who runs “investigations” or court proceedings in such an illegal and unethical manner as I’ve personally experienced. In so many ways and documented all too often, the Outlaw US Empire’s legal system is a massive fraud, where the word justice isn’t anywhere to be found.

    The entire Mueller Report is no better than expensive toilet paper, except it isn’t easily disposable. What’s demanded is a Genuine Investigation into the Mueller cover-up, FBI malfeasance, Hillary Clinton’s many illegalities, and what’s now clear involvement by Obama to Obstruct Justice and interfere in the 2016 election in a grossly illegal manner that makes Watergate pale in significance,.

  20. Tedder
    May 14, 2019 at 12:27

    The most jarring sensibility revealed by Craig Murray and others is that Russiagate spoiled Trump’s inclination to normalize international relations, starting with Russia, maybe not including Venezuela. The consequence is the neoconservatives, Bolton, Pompeo, et al, taking over foreign affairs.

  21. robert e williamson jr
    May 14, 2019 at 12:10

    The Seth Rich death. There are indications that something other than what is said to have happened actually happened. First being the quick disposal of the case by authorities. See the case of Danny Casolaro. They just want it to go away quickly and so all the particulars get sealed up and fade away.

    Seth was located by police and they arrived on scene with one minute of the shot being recorded. The location pin pointed by a high-tec system used for that exact purpose. Reports indicate that he was then transported to a nearby hospital where he later died.

    I find it interesting that there are no other times associated with the events involved. RThese are common response logs that should be available to the public. When did EMS arrive on scene, when did Rich arrive at the hospital?

    Two shots to the back killed him even though he had almost immediate help from law enforcement. According to our military most victims have that “golden hour” within which medical treatment is crucial to survival. Those times would tell us a lot about why he may ha e died. Some spine injuries a quickly lethal, but police reported Rich was conscious when they arrived and reports indicate he died later. The quick treatment , if it was quick did not help him. Why?

    He was shot twice in the back, I have no idea of what caliber the weapon used was or the type of rounds used in the attack. Crucial info we do not have. Some anti personnel “self defense” rounds do devastating damage to the human body, but in general are not used by robbers. A large enough round delivers similar catastrophic injuries, so again this info would tell us something if we had it.

    The lid was capped pretty tight on this info apparently. Why? I am not aware of any autopsy reports which would solve many of these questions. The absence of this info is a little more than suspicious given the nature of the events surrounding the death and his connections to a highly volatile situation with in the organization he worked for.

    He wasn’t robbed. How do we know whether or not Rich was relieved of a thumb drive he may have had on his person. No questions asked about this that I’m aware of. The family says there are signs of a struggle. If he struggled after being shot questions about his death later on seem valid. If he was shot and in such a bad condition why the struggle?

    I’m no detective but when the government, our government takes someone out the scenarios often seem to have similarities. No info is allowed out by the authorities and questions always remain. This seems to be the story here.

    What makes these types of cases worst is that if the evidence was allowed to be examined this case might have been just another tragic botched robbery. Maybe now that so much controversial evidence is now in the media about this entire episode the press will get off their collective dead asses and so some work. Someone needs to press for the rest of the story here because Meuller or Barr are no help!

  22. Michael Wilk
    May 14, 2019 at 11:40

    You write this, Mr. Murray:

    “Special Counsel Robert Mueller is either a fool, or deeply corrupt. I do not think he is a fool.”

    I think you’re half right. He is indeed deeply corrupt, but Mueller is also a fool. If his goal was to prevent Caligula Drumpf from being elected to a second term, the last two years have all but guaranteed an outcome that will be the exact opposite. If anything, the boy has destroyed the credibility of any serious investigation into Drumpf’s actual crimes.

    • hetro
      May 14, 2019 at 17:14

      Much to discuss on this point. Trump can play tough guy and rebel at the same time, as he did in 2016, with the added narcotic of “savior” as he steps into a boiling cauldron and “rescues.” (Or, at least he can try to do this.) Dems are so dim they’re running Biden, today at 39% favored vs. Bernie, second at 15%. All this comes down to a personality fight. Biden humiliated Paul Ryan in 2012 and is a notorious hot-dog for argument. But Trump is from the school that jumps on an opponent from behind outside the wrestling ring and pounds him in the head as the auditorium goes nuts. Meanwhile, additionally, the DEMS demonize and try to exterminate the only decent voices they have to appeal to a public starving for change–the loose set of young female radicals led by Tulsi Gabbard, with Bernie implicated in their “disloyalty to America.” This demonizing is additional to why Trump would be favored (he might even have kind words for Bernie), on top of his basilisk-type ability to play various roles.

      • David Otness
        May 15, 2019 at 12:44

        Be very, very careful citing polls. That CNN poll you quote has an anomaly, a very significant one and should not be bandied about as gospel.
        We live within an an unremitting psyop. Keep that in mind. Always.
        This is but 2:44 in duration:

  23. Brian James
    May 14, 2019 at 11:29

    May 6, 2019 Victor Davis Hanson – How Mueller Put the Deep State at Risk

    By lowering the bar on lying to federal officials in order to squeeze Trump acquaintances, Robert Mueller has now made many anti-Trump investigators vulnerable to serious prosecution.

  24. Bob In Portland
    May 14, 2019 at 11:28

    Mueller’s history of lying, obfuscation, and concealing evidence in his federal prosecutorial duties:

    • Bob Van Noy
      May 15, 2019 at 07:05

      Great link Bob In Portland. I really appreciate your excellent research on Robert Mueller, we can see more and more into the Internalization of Crime protecting the deep past that was our personal experience as young innocents. As individuals who have been lied to for a lifetime, it is totally fitting that we do our upmost to help expose the corruption… Many Thanks!

    • David Otness
      May 15, 2019 at 14:34

      Bob in Portland—Thank you for initiating that path for all to see and walk—if of resolute and courageous spirit..
      Col Fletcher Prouty, whom you’re likely aware of, did an excellent job of documenting the precision with which the CIA infiltrated and took over the U.S. armed forces’ command prior to Vietnam, beginning with Allen Dulles’ rogue actions in Switzerland while in the OSS in WW II, and also amongst other following gross perfidies, the sabotaging of the May 1960 nuclear arms summit that might have made the Cold War unnecessary by making sure Gary Powers’ U-2 spy plane would starve for fuel in the heart of not just the USSR, but Russia itself, and leaving Khrushchev no option but to cancel.
      How I loathe these rancid fuckers.

      Colonel Prouty’s videos are abundant on YouTube:

      And for the patient and questing for the truth in a scholarly manner, there’s this:

      Now with the above we have a rudimentary education with which we can proceed to address the “real world” as so cunningly constituted by the conniving Intel Complex class, and its criminal for all time godfather, Allen Dulles.
      It puts what Bob in Portland essays into the larger, graspable perspective needed in order to comprehend the “Matrix”-level construct under which most of the world, but particularly the thoroughly propagandized-from-birth U.S. citizenry, goes ignorantly through life believing. And responding to accordingly as if a doped-up neutered pack of Pavlov’s dogs. Which is not far from the truth.
      This is NOT speculative ‘woo,’ down-the-rabbit hole material.
      It’s Red Pill / Blue Pill stuff.

      • May 15, 2019 at 18:32

        If u trump and friend did nothing why would they lie to cover up. You can see where they are not telling the thruth its plain and obvious. I have been investigating matters for 28yrs and you can when a lie is been told

  25. May 14, 2019 at 11:13

    The whole thing was a farce from the get-go, and we knew it. The fact that Craig Murray and others continue pointing this out, with facts that won’t get investigated, comes from the necessity of challenging this extraordinary, never-ending deep state lie. Mueller has been deep state cover-up for years. Thanks for this article.

    • Mike from Jerse
      May 14, 2019 at 11:43

      Well put.

      The emails that are at the root of this showed that Hillary Clinton – among other things – knew full well that the Saudis were transferring American weapons to Isis.

      Where is the New York Times reporting on this? The Washington Post? CNN?

      The significance of the emails was never discussed. The whole Russiagate thing was an orchestrated diversion from the get-go. It was meant to defeat debate on matters of importance and substitute a bogus Russiagate debate.

      A democracy cannot survive without a free press, and we do not have a free press. And I wonder if it is too late to fix the problem.

      • David Otness
        May 15, 2019 at 15:01

        Mike from Jers—
        That’s exactly what Obama’s extraordinary crackdown on journalism and whistleblowers was and is all about. Why Julian Assange’s takedown is imperative to that ignoble cause. Aaron Schwarz’s prosecution and ultimate suicide too was a part of this aggression on the homefront. Just look at the overt signs such as the journalists being picked off almost daily now.
        The B&E tactics of basically SWAT teams that have been employed emphasizing government intimidation against truth-tellers such as Jeremy Hammond, Thomas Drake, William Binney, Barrett Brown and others, but especially the Prize: Julian Assange.
        Worldwide it’s The Power of the State being asserted, and indeed it does point to darker days ahead; those days, these days in which we yet breathe being the heralds of a neo-Dark Age.
        The essence of what many of us are trying to express is that this is a race against time, the Owners are busy trying to corral and capture what free spirits and expression remains.
        This truly is a battle of the ages, and for us, paraphrasing someone I’d rather not—this is our “Mother of all battles.”

      May 14, 2019 at 11:56

      Deep state Deep state Deep state one more time Deep state THANK YOU FOX NEWS .Get a new source do your own investigation write your 400 page report over 18 months and then post LAZY AMERICAN.

      • Joe
        May 15, 2019 at 05:01

        Mueller knew from the start he had nothing, because their was nothing. Lazy, you want to talk lazy? I will go way more then lazy. Hold the report and hope to get the house or Senate back. CNN,msnbc, NBC, ABC, the Turkish turds, those lying insane wahmens yes wahmens, radical feminist traitor on The view, The insanity of buzzfeed, Washington post, ny times, all conspired and lied, indoctrinated and brainwashed, the people through propaganda and fake news.democrats are walking away(@walkaway) because they have finally realized the utter, disgustingly lying ,radical left socialists. The u.s is founded on a Republic, not a democracy and certainly not a socialist hellhole. No one used that term, until the awake patriots and conservative internet community used it almost 20 years ago. All you hear from the socialist news is Russia collusion, Russia collusion, Russia collusion for 2 damn years. The big corporations own all those news agencies. They have trolls on youtube, Twitter, Facebook and All The rest. You want to talk collusion? That’s collusion. Damn bots all over the place, tricking the already democratic, zombies, still stuck in their little safe spaces, still stuck in the matrix, by these baby killing, mass murdering, satanic globalists. People, women and children starving to death, war on the people by globalist, pedophile, child killers, putting puppet leaders of every nation on this earth, to divide and conquer, lower the population, with b/s green deal lie. These globalists have already killed the earth. Gmos, poisoned water with fluoride and estrogen mimickers, poisoned air etc, etc, etc. You don’t know 95%, if that, of what the secret society’s and Globalists maniacs are doing, why, how they got the technology and the fact that the tech we see is nothing. they are 20-30 years ahead, at the least.

        • May 15, 2019 at 11:14

          Learn history before you make claims about it. Lincoln and Marx were pen pals. Socialism in the US goes back well over 150 years. Unfortunately, literal Nazi Sympathizers like McCarthy scared people from talking about it openly, and 50 years of subsequent propaganda by fascists (those who promote the merger of the corporation and the state) have deluded simple minded folk to become their own worst enemy. Socialists are Internationslists. Globalists are Capitalists, each and every one. There is a massive difference.

      • David Otness
        May 15, 2019 at 15:06

        “Never argue with a fool. He will wear you down and beat you wth experience.” ~ Mark Twain

    • Realist
      May 14, 2019 at 13:08

      We who read CN, ICH and a few other independent news sources knew it. Most everyone else is being deliberately kept in the dark by the MSM which is an integral part of the “deep state lie” you cite. Back during the Watergate years, when the press was not monopolized by a coterie of half a dozen mega-corporations, you would have access to real information like the present article on a timely and continuous basis. The days of a free, open and representative system of governance and mass communication amongst all the people is long gone. Those notions are now considered quaint by the insiders who own and run the whole show. In America, money talks, everyone else can STFU… or they’ll make you shut up.

      • Mike from Jersey
        May 14, 2019 at 17:13

        Realist, I often wonder, just how many still believe the MSM. People like us who read “CN, ICH” often assume that the rest of America still believes the New York Times, CNN and their ilk – but I am no longer sure that is the case. Whether one likes Trump or dislikes Trump, the media’s controlled attempt to invalidate his election removed any illusion about the existence of a free press in America. The only people who still believe the MSM may be the hard core Hillary supporters and that is not a majority of the population.

        • Realist
          May 14, 2019 at 18:55

          Agreed. There are people all across the spectrum who feel betrayed by the MSM. Others with radically differing views from CN readers may frequent the opinions and reportage offered by the likes of those recently expelled from the public conversation by FaceBook, Twitter, Google and the other dispensers of “received wisdom” from the Deep State, which I thought was a blatant attack on free speech and public political debate.

          I still contend that the MSM goes all out to hide the truth and to drastically slant that bit of it they absolutely must deal with. Personally, I’d like to know what every influential faction out there thinks about the big issues. To hide that from me is to try to deceive me, which is what I accuse the MSM of incessantly and willfully doing. I don’t go along with their “war is peace, freedom is slavery and ignorance is strength.” I thought Orwell debunked that philosophy 70 years ago, yet they try to ram it down our throats.

          We are not “stronger together,” mobs act in synchronous lockstep, they are usually controlled by some insider elite with ulterior motives. We are stronger when everyone examines all the facts, thinks for himself and the group (hopefully) comes to a reasoned objective consensus. Sometimes that may take nearly forever, but it must be the approach.

          • Skip Scott
            May 15, 2019 at 07:28

            On occasion, I force myself to watch the Nightly News, just to see what the propagandists are feeding the public. It is really a very well-tailored bit of theater. They start with something spectacular, a natural disaster or whatever, then they slide into “the main message”, which is the propaganda narrative line for the day, and they end it with some kind of touchy “feel good” story. It is the same pattern every night that I’ve watched.

            Unfortunately, I believe the vast majority have become hopelessly passive consumers in the age of television and smart phones. Their screens have them hypnotized. Rational thought and critical analysis are out of fashion. I have told many friends and family that propaganda addressed to the American public actually became fully legalized in the NDAA of 2012, yet again and again I hear them spout the MSM propaganda line unquestioningly. They have been absorbed, and they just don’t “get it”.

        • Dave P.
          May 14, 2019 at 21:35

          From what I have observed is that a very large majority of people still believe in MSM (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, NY Times, L.A. Times . . . ), including PBS.

          As Realist noted above “Most everyone else is being deliberately kept in the dark by the MSM which is an integral part of the “deep state lie you cite” is true.

          • Mike from Jersey
            May 15, 2019 at 11:51

            You may be right – I don’t know.

            However, I do know that one of the legacies of Russiagate is that a larger portion of the population no longer believes the MSM.

            And I think it goes even further. A larger portion of the US population is now questioning everything. That included all mainstream institutions (including healthcare and education), history as it has been taught and certainly the government.

            Yes, this may be a minority, but it is growing. And I wonder if the purveyors of Russiagate understood that once they “spent” their credibility, that it is no longer in the bank to spend a second time.

          • Realist
            May 15, 2019 at 14:00

            Mike, I think you are right about the cynicism that pervades everything these days… even the shape of the earth known to scholars since antiquity.

            You are most certainly right about the consequence of losing one’s credibility. I used to vote mostly for Democrats because they postured as liberals. Now I wouldn’t vote for one even to beat Trump because I could never believe a thing they say… and what they do say is usually just as outrageously provocative as anything the warmongering GOPers spout. (Tulsi Gabbard is the only exception with any credibility left.)

        • David Otness
          May 15, 2019 at 15:20

          Mike from Jers—
          The problem is the large demographic that yet accepts the NYT’s (MSDNC, etc) ongoing transgressions against truth is that they are the bourgeoise—comfortably numb within the construct spun. They have no interest in anything but their own lives of comfort remaining undisturbed. They are resolute in their lack of conscience.
          And exactly who the Owners depend on always to be so predictable in their ensconcing therein.
          That is precisely the function of the liberal class in the power pyramid. And then the reactionary right fulfills the role of always being at war with the liberals—even and always as the pinnacle of the pyramid remains unaddressed. As ever.

          • Mike from Jersey
            May 15, 2019 at 18:36

            Legitimate points. I, myself, have sometimes been declared persona-non-grata at liberal barbecues or house parties due to my unfortunate habit of truth-telling.

            After all, how can one enjoy a barbecue on the fourth of July when some inconsiderate person is reminding them of the harsh reality that millions of innocent men, women and children have died in the middle east due to our blundering foreign policy.

        • Zhu
          May 19, 2019 at 00:00

          Hardcore Hillary supporters have their alternative media, what I call the Church of Hillary (Fundamentalist).

  26. Jeff Harrison
    May 14, 2019 at 10:35

    This is actually a make or break moment for the United States. Mr. Mueller’s role was to ensure that the reality – that the “deep state”, our permanent and huge surveillance state, deliberately tried to engineer an election result – would not come out. There are many more people whom he should have interviewed to understand how this started and where it went. Three Name’s is only the tip of the iceberg. The two wings of the corporate party essentially offer us Hobb’s choice but beyond that our surveillance state is trying to make sure that we only make the correct decision. Soon they will sweep away the last remnants of the old republic.

  27. ML
    May 14, 2019 at 10:14

    Thank you for this, Craig. Can someone write an article on the particulars of the Seth Rich murder? I’d like to hear details of the crime, the immediate aftermath of it, and subsequent so-called “investigation” of it by the DC police. Accurate details have been difficult to come by. Would love to hear more from you as well, Mr. Murray. Many thanks.

  28. Billy
    May 14, 2019 at 09:27

    Mooler’s a hack for the neocons. His purpose was to give credence to “Russia meddled” lie. The entire MSM and most of the Web media are one single cabal. Are mouth pieces for the war profiteers. They’ll declare without out evidence that the “Russia meddled” narrative is a fact from now on. Reality is irrelevant.

    • May 14, 2019 at 15:54

      For me, the craziest point of investigation was not examining DNC servers. Comey said FBI asked two times, but was denied access. Like they are toothless internet company, not fearsome law agency, that forcefully break into people apartments for unpaid parking tickets? What they were afraid to find? Anyway they would lie, so this behaviour is strange….On the other hand, who can fathom the stupidity of these morons? Bottomless and endless.

      • LJ
        May 19, 2019 at 19:06

        Comey deserves jail time way, way, more , more than Flynn who had been appointed and approved to head Military Intelligence under Pepsodent Barrack Turn Your Head and Cough Obama. Oh what a tangled web we weave……., In my very, very humble opinion, At 6’7″ or was it 6’9″ ?, Comey is clearly one of the biggest assholes that we have had yet.You would think he would have more self confidence if not better judgement.

  29. Chris
    May 14, 2019 at 08:16

    Yep. I’ll try pitching this to my local NPR affiliate. Now please fix the typo in the subheading.

    • Bob In Portland
      May 14, 2019 at 11:29

      Good luck with that.

      • David Otness
        May 15, 2019 at 15:42

        Bwahaha– No kidding, Bob in Portland.
        “NPR” ffs.

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