The Israel-gate Side of Russia-gate

While unproven claims of Russian meddling in U.S. politics have whipped Official Washington into a frenzy, much less attention has been paid to real evidence of Israeli interference in U.S. politics, as Dennis J Bernstein describes.

 

By Dennis J Bernstein

In investigating Russia’s alleged meddling in U.S. politics, special prosecutor Robert Mueller uncovered evidence that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pressured the Trump transition team to undermine President Obama’s plans to permit the United Nations to censure Israel over its illegal settlement building on the Palestinian West Bank, a discovery referenced in the plea deal with President Trump’s first National Security Adviser Michael Flynn.

President Donald J. Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel at the United Nations General Assembly (Official White House Photo by Shealah Craighead)

At Netanyahu’s behest, Flynn and President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner reportedly took the lead in the lobbying to derail the U.N. resolution, which Flynn discussed in a phone call with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak (in which the Russian diplomat rebuffed Flynn’s appeal to block the resolution).

I spoke on Dec, 18 with independent journalist and blogger Richard Silverstein, who writes on national security and other issues for a number of blogs at Tikun Olam.

Dennis Bernstein: A part of Michael Flynn’s plea had to do with some actions he took before coming to power regarding Israel and the United Nations. Please explain.

Richard Silverstein: The Obama administration was negotiating in the [UN] Security Council just before he left office about a resolution that would condemn Israeli settlements.  Obviously, the Israeli government did not want this resolution to be passed.  Instead of going directly to the Obama administration, with which they had terrible relations, they went to Trump instead.  They approached Michael Flynn and Jared Kushner became involved in this.  While they were in the transition and before having any official capacity, they negotiated with various members of the Security Council to try to quash the settlement resolution.

One of the issues here which is little known is the Logan Act, which was passed at the foundation of our republic and was designed to prevent private citizens from usurping the foreign policy prerogatives of the executive.  It criminalized any private citizen who attempted to negotiate with an enemy country over any foreign policy issue.

In this case, what Flynn and Kushner were doing was going directly against US foreign policy, because Obama wanted the resolution to pass; He just didn’t want to vote for it because that would cross the Israel lobby in the United States.  The US finally ended up abstaining on the resolution and it passed 14-0.

But before that happened, Flynn went to the Russians and to Egypt, both members of the Security Council, and tried to get the resolution delayed.  But all of Israel’s machinations to derail this resolution failed and that is what Mueller was investigating, the intervention and disruption of American foreign policy by private citizens who had no official role.

This speaks to the power of the Israel lobby and of Israel itself to disrupt our foreign policy.  Very few people have ever been charged with committing an illegal act by advocating on behalf of Israel.  That is one of the reasons why this is such an important development.  Until now, the lobby has really ruled supreme on the issue of Israel and Palestine in US foreign policy.  Now it is possible that a private citizen will actually be made to pay a price for that.

This is an important development because the lobby till now has run roughshod over our foreign policy in this area and this may act as a restraining order against blatant disruption of US foreign policy by people like this.

Bernstein: So this information is a part of Michael Flynn’s plea.  Anyone studying this would learn something about Michael Flynn and it would be part of the prosecution’s investigation.

Silverstein: That’s absolutely right.  One thing to note here is that it is reporters who have raised the issue of the Logan Act, not Mueller or Flynn’s people or anyone in the Trump administration.  But I do think that Logan is a very important part of this plea deal, even if it is not mentioned explicitly.

Bernstein: If the special prosecutor had smoking-gun information that the Trump administration colluded with Russia, in the way they colluded with Israel before coming to power, this would be a huge revelation.  But it is definitely collusion when it comes to Israel.

Silverstein: Absolutely.  If this were Russia, it would be on the front page of every major newspaper in the United States and the leading story on the TV news.  Because this is Israel and because we have a conflicted relationship with the Israel lobby and they have so much influence on US policy concerning Israel, it has managed to stay on the back burner.  Only two or three media outlets besides mine have raised this issue of Logan and collusion.  Kushner and Flynn may be the first American citizens charged under the Logan Act for interfering on behalf of Israel in our foreign policy.  This is a huge issue and it has hardly been raised at all.

Bernstein: As you know, Rachel Maddow of MSNBC has made a career out of investigating the Russia-gate charges.  She says that she has read all this material carefully, so she must have read about Flynn and Israel, but I haven’t heard her on this issue at all.

Silverstein: Even progressive journalists, who you’d think would be going after this with a vengeance, are frightened off by the fact the lobby really bites back.  So, aside from outlets like the Intercept and the Electronic Intifada, there is a lot of hesitation about going after the Israel lobby.  People are afraid because they know that there is a high price to be paid.  It goes from being purely journalism to being a personal and political vendetta when they get you in their sights.  In fact, one of the reasons I feel my blog is so important is that what I do is challenge Israeli policy and Israeli intervention in places where it doesn’t belong.

Bernstein: Jared Kushner is the point man for the Trump administration on Israel.  He has talked about having a “vision for peace.”  Do you think it is a problem that this is someone with a long, close relationship with the prime minister of Israel and, in fact, runs a foundation that invests in the building of illegal Israeli settlements?  Might this be problematic?

President Trump speaking at a Cabinet meeting on Nov. 1, 2017, with Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to Trump’s right and son-in-law Jared Kushner seated in the background. (Screen shot from whitehouse.gov)

Silverstein: It is quite nefarious, actually.  When Jared Kushner was a teenager, Netanyahu used to stay at the Kushner family home when he visited the United States.  This relationship with one of the most extreme right political figures in Israel goes back decades.  And it is not just Kushner himself, but all the administration personnel dealing with these so-called peace negotiations, including Jason Greenblatt and David Friedman, the ambassador.  These are all orthodox Jews who tend to have very nationalist views when it comes to Israel.  They all support settlements financially through foundations.  These are not honest brokers.

We could talk at length about the history of US personnel who have been negotiators for Middle East peace.  All of them have been favorable to Israel and answerable to the Israel lobby, including Dennis Ross and Makovsky, who served in the last administration.  These people are dyed-in-the-wool ultra-nationalist supporters of [Israeli] settlements.  They have no business playing any role in negotiating a peace deal.

My prediction all along has been that these peace negotiations will come to naught, even though they seem to have bought the cooperation of Saudi Arabia, which is something new in the process.  The Palestinians can never accept a deal that has been negotiated by Kushner and company because it will be far too favorable to Israel and it will totally neglect the interests of the Palestinians.

Bernstein: It has been revealed that Kushner supports the building of settlements in the West Bank.  Most people don’t understand the politics of what is going on there, but it appears to be part of an ethnic cleansing.

Silverstein: The settlements have always been a violation of international law, ever since Israel conquered the West Bank in 1967.  The Geneva Conventions direct an occupying power to withdraw from territory that was not its own.  In 1967 Israel invaded Arab states and conquered the West Bank and Gaza but this has never been recognized or accepted by any nation until now.

The fact that Kushner and his family are intimately involved in supporting settlements–as are David Friedman and Jason Greenblatt–is completely outrageous.  No member of any previous US administration would have been allowed to participate with these kinds of financial investments in support of settlements.  Of course, Trump doesn’t understand the concept of conflict of interest because he is heavily involved in such conflicts himself.  But no party in the Middle East except Israel is going to consider the US an honest broker and acceptable as a mediator.

When they announce this deal next January, no one in the Arab World is going to accept it, with the possible exception of Saudi Arabia because they have other fish to fry in terms of Iran.  The next three years are going to be interesting, supposing Trump lasts out his term.  My prediction is that the peace plan will fail and that it will lead to greater violence in the Middle East.  It will not simply lead to a vacuum, it will lead to a deterioration in conditions there.

Bernstein: The Trump transition team was actually approached directly by the Israeli government to try to intercede at the United Nations.

Silverstein: I’m assuming it was Netanyahu who went directly to Kushner and Trump.  Now, we haven’t yet found out that Trump directly knew about this but it is very hard to believe that Trump didn’t endorse this.  Now that we know that Mueller has access to all of the emails of the transition team, there is little doubt that they have been able to find their smoking gun.  Flynn’s plea meant that they basically had him dead to rights.  It remains to be seen what will happen with Kushner but I would think that this would play some role in either the prosecution of Kushner or some plea deal.

Bernstein: The other big story, of course, is the decision by the Trump administration to move the US embassy from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem.  Was there any pre-election collusion in that regard and what are the implications?

Silverstein: Well, it’s a terrible decision which goes against forty to fifty years of US foreign policy.  It also breaches all international understanding.  All of our allies in the European Union and elsewhere are aghast at this development.  There is now a campaign in the United Nations Security Council to pass a resolution condemning the announcement, which we will veto, but the next step will be to go to the General Assembly, where such a resolution will pass easily.

The question is how much anger, violence and disruption this is going to cause around the world, especially in the Arab and Muslim world.  This is a slow-burning fuse.  It is not going to explode right now.  The issue of Jerusalem is so vital that this is not something that is simply going to go away.  This is going to be a festering sore in the Muslim world and among Palestinians.  We have already seen attacks on Israeli soldiers and citizens and there will be many more.

As to collusion in all of this, since Trump always said during the campaign that this was what he was going to do, it might be difficult to treat this in the same way as the UN resolution.  The UN resolution was never on anybody’s radar and nobody knew the role that Trump was playing behind the scenes with that–as opposed to Trump saying right from the get-go that Jerusalem was going to be recognized as the capital of Jerusalem.

By doing that, they have completely abrogated any Palestinian interest in Jerusalem.  This is a catastrophic decision that really excludes the United States from being an honest broker here and shows our true colors in terms of how pro-Israel we are.

Dennis J Bernstein is a host of “Flashpoints” on the Pacifica radio network and the author of Special Ed: Voices from a Hidden Classroom. You can access the audio archives at www.flashpoints.net.

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112 comments for “The Israel-gate Side of Russia-gate

  1. Drew Hunkins
    December 23, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    As most regular readers of CN already know, some dynamite books on the inordinate amount of influence pro-Israel zealots have on Washington:

    1.) ‘The Host and the Parasite’ by Greg Felton
    2.) ‘Power of Israel in the United States’ by James Petras
    3.) ‘They Dare to Speak Out’ by Paul Findley
    4.) ‘The Israel Lobby’ by Mearsheimer and Walt
    5.) ‘Zionism, Militarism and the Decline of U.S. Power’ by James Petras

    I suggest that anyone relatively knew to this neglected topic peruse a few of the aforementioned titles. An inevitable backlash by the citizens of the United States is eventually forthcoming against the Zionist Power Configuration. It’s crucial that this impending backlash remain democratic, non-violent, eschews anti-Semitism, and travels in a progressive in direction.

    • Annie
      December 23, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      Which one would you suggest? I already read “The Israel Lobby.”

      • Drew Hunkins
        December 23, 2017 at 6:29 pm

        The Findley book and the first Petras book listed. Enjoy!

        • Annie
          December 23, 2017 at 11:43 pm

          Thanks!

      • Sam F
        December 23, 2017 at 8:38 pm

        Findley and Mearsheimer are certainly worthwhile. I will look for Petras.

      • Larry Larsen
        December 24, 2017 at 6:38 pm

        If you haven’t already read them, the end/footnotes in “The Israel Lobby” are more illuminating.

    • December 23, 2017 at 6:10 pm

      That influence is also shown, of course, by the fact that Obama waited until the midnight hours of his tenure and after the 2016 election to even start working on this resolution.

    • Anna
      December 26, 2017 at 7:18 pm

      For those who prefer pictorial explanation of the Israel-US relationships here is an educational video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovo_T0KqdYg
      “The parasitoid Jewel Wasp (Ampulex compressa) uses cockroaches (Periplaneta americana) as a live fresh food supply for its offspring. The wasp injects venom directly into the cockroach brain to control its behavior. In this movie, we show the life cycle of this amazing predator, which ends in a slow horrifying death of the cockroach.”

  2. December 23, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    While I think Bibi is an idiot, I also think the Logan Act is overinvoked, overstated, probably of dubious legal value and also of dubious constitutional value.

    In short, especially because Trump had been elected, though not yet inaugurated, I think he is not at all guilty of a Logan Act violation. This is nothing close to Spiro Agnew calling Anna Chenault from the airplane in August 1968.

    • Sam F
      December 23, 2017 at 8:41 pm

      Probably true, although evidence of extreme collusion with Israel eliminates any case against Russia, with whom we have far more reasons for amity. Bringing out the Israel collusion greatly improves public understanding of political corruption. Perhaps it will awaken some to the Agnew-Chennault betrayal of the people of the US.

      • JWalters
        December 24, 2017 at 3:32 am

        It’s ironic that Russia-gate is turning out to be Israel’s effort to distract attention from its complete control over the Democratic party in 2016. From Israeli billionaires behind the scenes to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz at the helm. The leaked emails showed the corruption plainly, and based on the ACTUAL evidence (recorded download time), most likely came from a highly disgruntled insider. The picture was starting to spill into public view. I’d estimate the real huge worry was that if this stuff came out, it could bring out other Israeli secrets, like their involvement in 9/11. That would mean actual jail time. Might be hard to buy your way out of that no matter how much money you have.

    • Annie
      December 23, 2017 at 10:48 pm

      The Logan act states that anyone who negotiates with an enemy of the US, and Israel is not defined as an enemy.

      • Daniel
        December 26, 2017 at 12:44 am

        Despite the framing in this article, The Logan Act does NOT specify “enemy” nations. It prohibits private citizens from attempting to influence ANY foreign government in affairs in which the United States has interest.

        “Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.”

        https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953

  3. Annie
    December 23, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    The Logan act would not apply here, although I wish it would. I don’t think anyone has been convicted based on this act, and they were part of a transition team not to mention the Logan act clearly states a private citizen who attempts to negotiate with an enemy state, and that certainly doesn’t apply to Israel. In this administration their bias is so blatant that they can install Kushner as an honest broker in the Israeli-Palestine peace process while his family has a close relationship with Netanyahu, and he runs a foundation that invests in the building of illegal settlements which goes against the Geneva conventions. Hopefully Trump’s blatant siding with Israel will receive a lot of backlash as did his plan to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

    I also found that so called progressive internet sites don’t cover this the way they should.

    • Al Pinto
      December 24, 2017 at 9:16 am

      @Annie…

      “The Logan act would not apply here, although I wish it would.”

      You and me both….

      From the point of starting to read this article, it has been in my mind that the Logan act would not apply here. After reading most of the comments, it became clear that not many people viewed this as such. Yes, Joe Tedesky did as well…

      The UN is the “clearing house” for international politics, where countries freely contact each other’s for getting support for their cause behind the scene. The support sought after could be voting for or against the resolution on hand. At times, as Israel did, countries reach out to perceived enemies as well, if they could not secure sufficient support for their cause. This is the normal activity of the UN diplomacy.

      Knowing that the outgoing administration would not support its cause, Israel reached out to the incoming administration to delay the vote on the UN resolution. I fail to see anything wrong with Israel’s action even in this case; Israel is not an enemy state to the US. As such, there has been no violation of any acts by the incoming administration, even if they tried to secure veto vote for Israel. I do not like it, but no action by Mueller in this case is correct.

      People, just like the article in itself, implying that the Logan Act applies in this case are just plain wrong. Not just wrong, but their anti-Israel bias is in plain view.

      Whether we like it or not, the former and current administration view Russia is as an enemy state. Even then, Russia contacting the incoming administration is not a violation of the Logan Act. That is just normal diplomacy in the background between countries. What would be a violation is that the contacted official acted on the behalf of Russia and tried to influence the outgoing administration’s decision. That is what the Mueller investigation tries to prove hopelessly…

      • December 24, 2017 at 10:54 am

        “Whether we like it or not, the former and current administration view Russia is as an enemy state.” So that is how it works, the White House says it is an enemy state and therefore it is. The so called declaration is the hammer used for trying to make contact with Russia a criminal offense. We are not at war with Russia although we see our leaders doing their best to provoke Russia into one.

      • Annie
        December 24, 2017 at 1:55 pm

        Thanks for your reply. When I read the article and it referenced the Logan Act, which I am familiar with in that I’ve read about it before, I was surprised that Bernstein and Silverstein even brought it up because it so obviously does not apply in this case, since Israel is not considered an enemy state. Many have even referenced it as flimsy when it comes to convictions against those in Trump’s transition team who had contacts with Russia. No one has ever been convicted under the Logan Act.

      • Larry Larsen
        December 24, 2017 at 6:41 pm

        The Logan Act either should apply equally, or not apply at all. This “Russia-gate” hype seems to apply it selectively.

  4. mrtmbrnmn
    December 23, 2017 at 7:36 pm

    You guys are blinded by the light. The Israel connection disclosed by the malpracticer hack Mueller in the recent Flynn-flam just made Trump bullet-proof (so to speak).

    There is no doubt that Trump is Bibi’s and the Saudi’s ventriloquist dummy and Jared has been an Israel agent of influence since he was 12.

    But half the Dementedcrat Sore Loser Brigade will withdraw from the field of battle (not to mention most of the GOP living dead too) if publically and noisily tying Israel to Trump’s tail becomes the only route to his removal. Which it would have to be, as there is no there there regarding the yearlong trumped-up PutinPutinPutin waterboarding of Trump.

    Immediately (if not sooner) the mighty (pro-Israel) Donor Bank of Singer (Paul), Saban (Haim), Sachs (Goldman) & Adelson (Sheldon), would change their passwords and leave these politicians/beggars with empty begging bowls. End of $ordid $tory.

    • dahoit
      December 24, 2017 at 2:30 pm

      Yep.The zionists are in control.

  5. alley cat
    December 23, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    So Mueller caught Kushner and Flynn red-handed, sabotaging the Obama administration? What of it? He can’t use that evidence, because it would inculpate the Zionist neocons that are orchestrating his farcical, Stalinist witchhunt. And Mueller, being an efficient terminator bot, knows that his target is Russia, not Israel.

    Mueller can use that evidence of sabotage and/or obstruction of justice to try to coerce false confessions from Kushner and Flynn. But what are the chances of that, barring short stayovers for them at some CIA black site?

    So Mueller will just have to continue swamp-fishing for potential perjurers…ahem…witnesses, for the upcoming show trials (to further inflame public opinion against Russia and Russia sympathizers). And continue he will, because (as we all know from Schwarzenegger’s flicks), the only way to stop the terminator is to terminate him/it first.

    • Leslie F.
      December 23, 2017 at 8:28 pm

      He used it, along with other info, to turn flip Flynn and possibly can use it the same way again Kusher. Not all evidence has end up in court to be useful.

    • John
      December 25, 2017 at 11:51 am

      Well said. In fact, I like most of the informed narratives and assessments I have read here.

  6. JWalters
    December 23, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    This is an extremely important story, excellently reported. All the main “facts” Americans think they know about Israel are, amazingly, flat-out lies.

    1. Israel was NOT victimized by powerful Arab armies. Israel overpowered and victimized a defenseless, civilian Arab population. Military analysts knew the Arab armies were in poor shape and would not be able to resist the zionist army.

    2. Muslim “citizens” of Israel do NOT have all the same rights as Jews.

    3. Israelis are NOT under threat from the indigineous Palestinians, but Palestinians are under constant threats of theft and death from the Israelis.

    4. Israel does NOT share America’s most fundamental values, which rest on the principle of equal human rights for all.

    Maintaining such a blanket of major lies for decades requires immense power. And this power would have to be exercised “under the radar” to be effective. That requires even more power. Both Congress and the press have to be controlled. How much power does it take to turn “Progressive Rachel” into “Tel Aviv Rachel”? To turn “It Takes a Village” Hillary into “Slaughter a Village” Hillary? It takes immense power AND ruthlessness.

    War profiteers have exactly this combination of immense war profits and the ruthlessness to victimize millions of people.
    “War Profiteers and the Roots of the War on Terror”
    http://warprofiteerstory.blogspot.com

    Vast war profits easily afford to buy the mainstream media. And controlling campaign contributions for members of Congress is amazingly cheap in the big picture. Such a squalid sale of souls.

    And when simple bribery is not enough, they ruin a person’s life through blackmail or false character assassination. And if those don’t work they use death threats, including to family members, and finally murder. Their ruthlessness is unrestrained. John Perkins has described these tactics in “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”.

    For readers who haven’t seen it, here is an excellent riff on the absurdly overwhelming evidence for Israel’s influence compared to that of Russia, at a highly professional news and analysis website run by Jewish anti-Zionists.
    “Let’s talk about Russian influence”
    http://mondoweiss.net/2016/08/about-russian-influence/

    • John
      December 25, 2017 at 11:56 am

      I have read Perkins’s book and it was enlightening. Especially since he conceded that his success in his personal businesses was due to the fact that he kept his mouth shut. I have yet to read his newest book. I like the term squalid that you used to describe the sale of souls, it is a correct definition. I will check out both links you have provided and thanks for that.

  7. mike k
    December 23, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    Hitler and Mussolini, Trump and Netanyahoo – matches made in Hell. These characters are so obviously, blatantly evil that it is deeply disturbing that people fail to see that, and instead go to great lengths to find some complicated flaws in these monsters.

    • mike k
      December 23, 2017 at 8:49 pm

      Keep it simple folks. No need for complex analyses. Just remember that these characters as simply as evil as it gets, and proceed from there. These asinine shows that portray mobsters as complex human beings are dangerously deluding. If you want to be victimized by these types, this kind of overthinking is just the way to go.

      • Sam F
        December 23, 2017 at 9:00 pm

        There is a modern theory of fiction that insists upon the portrayal of inconsistency in characters, both among the good guys and the bad guys. It is useful to show how those who do wrongs have made specific kinds of errors that make them abnormal, and that those who do right are not perfect but nonetheless did the right thing. Instead it is used by commercial writers to argue that the good are really bad, and the bad are really good, which is of course the philosophy of oligarchy-controlled mass publishers.

      • John
        December 25, 2017 at 11:57 am

        Well said. Only psychopaths will understand other psychopaths.

  8. Sam F
    December 23, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    A very important article by Dennis Bernstein, and it is very appropriate that non-zionist Jews are active against the extreme zionist corruption of our federal government. I am sure that they are reviled by the zionists for interfering with the false denunciations of racism against the opponents of zionism. Indeed critics face a very nearly totalitarian power of zionism, which in league with MIC/WallSt opportunism has displaced democracy altogether in the US.

    • John
      December 25, 2017 at 11:59 am

      I agree. I love the photo of Jews living in Palestine(Israel) holding a sign reading “Rothschilds go home”. Says it all. I’m sure the photo can be found if researched if you are interested.

  9. backwardsevolution
    December 23, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    A nice little set-up by the Obama administration. Perhaps it was entrapment? Who set it up? Flynn and Kushner should have known better to fall for it. So at the end of his Presidency, Obama suddenly gets balls and wants to slap down Israel? Yeah, right.

    Nice to have leverage over people, though, isn’t it? If you’re lucky and play your cards right, you might even be lucky enough to land an impeachment.

    Of course, I’m just being cynical. No one would want to overturn democracy, would they?

    Certainly people like Comey, Brenner, Clinton, Clapper, Mueller, Rosenstein wouldn’t want that, would they?

  10. Joe Tedesky
    December 23, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    I just can’t see any special prosecutor investigating Israel-Gate. Between what the Zionist donors donate to these creepy politicians, too what goods they have on these same mischievous politicians, I just can’t see any investigation into Israel’s collusion with the Trump Administration going anywhere. Netanyahu isn’t Putin, and Russia isn’t Israel. Plus, Israel is considered a U.S. ally, while Russia is being marked as a Washington rival. Sorry, this news regarding Israel isn’t going to be ranted on about for the next 18 months, like the MSM has done with Russia, because our dear old Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, or so they tell us. So, don’t get your hopes up.

    • JWalters
      December 24, 2017 at 3:33 am

      It’s true the Israelis have America’s politicians by the ears and the balls. But as this story gets better known, politicians will start getting questions at their town meetings. Increasingly the politicians will gag on what Israel is force-feeding them, until finally they reach a critical mass of vomit in Congress.

      • Joe Tedesky
        December 24, 2017 at 11:12 am

        I hope you are right JWalters. Although relying on a Zionist controlled MSM doesn’t give hope for the news getting out properly. Again I hope you are right JWalters. Joe

      • John
        December 25, 2017 at 12:04 pm

        We shall see. I don’t go in for hope much, but in this case, perhaps. I do like the picture of politicians swimming in their own filth and vomit though. How about this thought as a rule/law: What one in power decides for others chooses that for themselves and their families. It will never(?) come to be though.

  11. December 24, 2017 at 12:18 am

    Actually, Netanyahu was so desperate to have the resolution pulled and not voted on that he reached out to any country that might help him after the foreign minister of New Zealand, one of its co-sponsors refused to pull the plug after a testy phone exchange with the Israeli PM ending up threatening an Israeli boycott oturnef the KIwis.

    He then turned to his buddy, Vladimir Putin, who owed him a favor for having Israel’s UN delegate absent himself for the UNGA vote on sanctioning Russia after its annexation of Crimea.

    Putin then called Russia’s UN Ambassador, Vitaly Churkin, since deceased, and asked him to get the other UNSC ambassadors to postpone the vote until Trump took over the White House but the other ambassadors weren’t buying it. Given Russia’s historic public position regarding the settlements, Churkin had no choice to vote Yes with the others.

    This story was reported in detail in the Israeli press but blacked out in the US which, due to Zionist influence on the media, does not want the American public to know about the close ties between Putin and Netanyahu which has led to the Israeli PM making five state visits there in the last year and a half.

    Had Clinton won the White House we can assume that there would have been no US veto. That Netanyahu apparently knew in advance that the US planned to veto the resolution was, I suspect, leaked to the Israelis by US delegate Samantha Power, who was clearly unhappy at having to abstain.

    • Abe
      December 24, 2017 at 12:39 am

      The Israeli Prime Minister made five state visits to Russia in the last year and a half to make sure the Russians don’t accidentally on purpose blast Israeli warplanes from the sky over Syria (like they oughtta). Putin tries not to snicker when Netanyahu bloviates ad nauseum about the purported “threat” posed by Iran.

      • December 24, 2017 at 7:00 am

        He thinks Putin is a RATS ASS like the yankee government

    • JWalters
      December 24, 2017 at 3:34 am

      “This story was reported in detail in the Israeli press but blacked out in the US”

      We’ve just had a whole cluster of big stories involving Israel that have all been essentially blacked out in the US press. e.g.
      “Dionne and Shields ignore the Adelson in the room”
      http://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/jerusalem-israels-capital

      This is not due to chance. There is no doubt that the US mainstream media is wholly controlled by the Israelis.

    • alley cat
      December 24, 2017 at 4:49 am

      ”He [Netanyahu] then turned to his buddy, Vladimir Putin…”

      Jeff, that characterization of Putin and Netanyahu’s relationship makes no sense, since the Russians have consistently opposed Zionism and Putin has been no exception, having spoiled Zionist plans for the destruction of Syria.

      ”Had Clinton won the White House we can assume that there would have been no US veto.”

      Not sure where you’re going with that, since the US vote was up to Obama, who wanted to get some payback for all of Bibi’s efforts to sabotage Obama’s treaty with Iran.

      For the record, Zionism has had no more rabid supporter than the Dragon Lady. If we’re going to make assumptions, we could start by assuming that if she had won the White House we’d all be dead by now, thanks to her obsession (at the instigation of her Zionist/neocon sponsors) with declaring no-fly zones in Syria.

      • Anna
        December 26, 2017 at 7:49 pm

        Putin is forced to deal with the psychopaths who are also spoiled brats.
        The Jews are for a huge surprise. — Not only the US and EU citizens are coming to their senses re the guilt for “special victimhood” of the “eternal victim,” but such guilt is totally absent in Chinese DNA, and the China is going to overcome the US colossus with the feet of clay sooner or later. Considering the ziocons’ eager participation in designing and promoting the ongoing slaughter in the Middle East, and considering the hard facts in Palestine and in ziocon-regime-changed Ukraine (such as the triumph of neo-Nazis there), Zionism is approaching its deathbed. The WWII Holocaust biz was a nice caw to milk, but the history of Zionism shows its amorality since Zionism combines supremacism and terrorism. The availability of historical documents — such as “Two Hundred Years Together” by Solzhenitsyn and the facts about Israelis’ barbarity against the ancient monuments in Palestine et cetera — is the greatest enemy of Zionists and ziocons.

    • John
      December 25, 2017 at 12:06 pm

      All governments are criminally corrupt kakistocracies by design no matter how benevolent they portray themselves.

  12. Brendan
    December 24, 2017 at 6:18 am

    Trump and Kushner have nothing to worry about, even if a smoking gun is found that proves their collusion with Israel. That’s because the entire political and media establishment will simply ignore the Israeli connection.

    Journalists and politicians will even continue to present Mike Flynn’s contacts as evidence of collusion with Russia. They’ll keep on repeating that “Flynn lied about his phone call to the Russian ambassador”. But there will be no mention of the fact that the purpose of this contact was to support Israel and not any alleged Russian interference.

    • Skip Scott
      December 24, 2017 at 7:59 am

      I think you have it right Brendan. The MSM, Intelligence Community, and Mueller would never go down any path that popularized undue Israeli influence on US foreign policy. “Nothing to see here folks, move along.”

  13. December 24, 2017 at 6:57 am

    The zionist will stop at nothing to control the middle east with American taxpayers money/military equiptment its a win win for the zionist they control America lock stock and barrel a pity though it is a great country to be led by a jewish entity.

    • John
      December 25, 2017 at 12:08 pm

      Exactly. This is where the Zionists want their NWO State to be located for geopolitical reasons. The Belfour Declaration was all about this.

  14. December 24, 2017 at 10:47 am

    What will Israel-Palestine look like twenty years from now? Will it remain an apartheid regime, a regime without any Palestinians, or something different. The Trump decision, which the world rejects, brings the issue of “final” settlement to the fore. In a way we can go back to the thirties and the British Mandate. Jewish were fleeing Europe, many coming to Palestine. The British, on behalf of the Zionists, were delaying declaring Palestine a state with control of its own affairs. Seeing the mass immigration and chafing at British foot dragging, the Arabs rebelled, What happened then was that the British, responding to numerous pressures notably war with Germany, acted by granting independence and granting Palestine control of its borders.

    With American pressure and the mass exodus of Jews from Europe, Jews defied the British resulting in Jewish resistance. What followed then was a UN plan to divide the land with a Jerusalem an international city administered by the UN. The Arabs rebelled and lost much of what the UN plan provided and Jerusalem as an international city was scrapped.

    Will there be a second serious attempt to settle the issue of the land and the status of Jerusalem? Will there be a serious move toward a single state? How will the matter of Jerusalem be resolved. The two state solution has always been a fantasy and acquiescence of Palestinians to engage in this charade exposes their leaders to charges of posturing for perks. Imagined options could go on and on but will there be serious options placed before the world community or will the boots on the ground Israeli policies continue?

    As I have commented before, it will most probably be the Jewish community in Israel and the world that shapes the future and if the matter is to be resolved that is fair to both parties, it will be they that starts the ball rolling.

    • John
      December 25, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      I agree. As the US and West hegemony and monopolies fail, those in power in Israel will lose power to those that live there who wish things to be as they used to be before the 40’s.

    • Anna
      December 26, 2017 at 8:03 pm

      “The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years… Then it fell apart…” https://israelpalestinenews.org/weaponizing-archeology/
      The younger generation, particulalry non-Haridim, are leaving Israel for “normal” countries in Europe and for the US and Canada. No wonder.

  15. Zachary Smith
    December 24, 2017 at 1:34 pm

    As I have commented before, it will most probably be the Jewish community in Israel and the world that shapes the future and if the matter is to be resolved that is fair to both parties, it will be they that starts the ball rolling.

    The Nice Zionists responsible for the thefts and murders for the past 69 years along with the “Jewish Community” in the rest of the world will resolve the matter so as to be fair to both parties.

    This is mind-boggling fantasy.

    • Larry Larsen
      December 24, 2017 at 5:56 pm

      Truly mind-boggling. Ahistorical, and as you say, fantasy.

  16. Larry Larsen
    December 24, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    FFS, Netanyahu aired a political commercial in Florida for Romney saying vote for this guy (against Obama)! I mean, it doesn’t get any more overtly manipulative than that. Period. End of story.

    $50K of Facebook ads about puppies pales in comparison to that blatant, prima facia, public manipulation. God, I hate to go all “Israel controls the media” but there it is.

    Not even a discussion. Just a fact.

    • Tannenhouser
      December 26, 2017 at 11:25 pm

      Need look no further than the blackout on the anti bib protests in Israel.

  17. Larry Larsen
    December 24, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    Just for the record, Richard Silverstein blocked me on Twitter because I pointed out that he slammed someone who was suggesting that the Assad government was fighting for its (Syria’s) life by fighting terrorists. Actually, more specifically, because of that he read my “Free Palestine” bio on Twitter and called me a Hamas supporter (no Hamas mentioned) and a “moron” for some seeming contradiction.

    I also have to point out that he “fist pumped” Hillary Clinton at Mohammed Ali’s eulogy. If he’s as astute as he purports to be, he has to know that Hillary would have invaded Syria and killed a few hundred thousand more Syrians for the simple act of defiantly preserving their country. By almost any read of Ali’s history, he would have been adamantly (“killing brown people”) against that. But there was Silverstein using the platform to promote, arguably, perpetual war.

    Silverstein is probably not a good (ie. consistent) arbiter of Israeli impact on US politics. Just sayin’.

    I wish it were otherwise.

    • Taras 77
      December 24, 2017 at 6:35 pm

      https://www.therussophile.org/virus-found-inside-dnc-server-is-linked-to-a-company-based-in-pakistan.html/

      This may be a tad ot but it relates to the alleged hacking of the DNC, the role debbie wasserman schultz plays in the spy ring (awan bros) in house of rep servers: I have long suspected that mossad has their fingers in this entire mess. FWIW

      Good site, BTW.

    • Zachary Smith
      December 24, 2017 at 7:35 pm

      I can’t recall why I removed the Tikun Olam site from my bookmarks – it happened quite a while back. Generally I do that when I feel the blogger crossed some kind of personal red line. Something Mr. Silverstein wrote put him over that line with me.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/06/us/06leak.html?hp

      In the course of a search I found that at the neocon NYT. Mr. Silverstein claims several things I find unbelievable, and from that alone I wonder about his ultimate motives. I may be excessively touchy about this, but that’s how it is.

      • Larry Larsen
        December 24, 2017 at 8:51 pm

        Yeah Zachary, “wondering about ultimate motives” is probably a good way to put it/his views. He’s obviously conflicted, if not deferential in some aspects of Israeli policy. He really was a hero of mine, but now I just don’t get whether what he says is masking something or a true belief. He says some good stuff, but, but, but….

      • P. Michael Garber
        December 24, 2017 at 11:54 pm

        Yeah I found a couple of Silverstein’s statements to be closer to neocon propaganda than reality:

        “Because this is Israel and because we have a conflicted relationship with the Israel lobby . . .”

        “Instead of going directly to the Obama administration, with which they had terrible relations, they went to Trump instead.”

        My impression was that the whole “terrible relationship between Obama and Netanyahu” was manufactured by the Israel lobby to bully Obama.

        However these are small blips within an otherwise solid critique of the Israel lobby’s influence.

  18. Yahweh
    December 24, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    Ready or not here I come. Remember the childhood game of hide and seek. A game that sometimes needs a clue to keep those seekers on track. Well, here’s a clue. For $100000 and the daily double, where is the financial hub for the entire world? My chosen own this financial hub and with this ownership control the outcome of everything.

  19. Zachary Smith
    December 25, 2017 at 12:08 am

    The New York Times tries to make the Ahed Tamimi story go away

    The neocon NYT is still batting for Israel.

    h**p://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/times-tries-tamimi/

    More about the young lady.

    Israel has transferred Ahed Tamimi to three different detention facilities in the last five days even though she has not yet been charged with a crime

    The Zionist swine are doing their best to break her. Freezing cell, substandard food, a camera trained on her very second. Where are the hand-wringing peace-loving trolls on stories like this? They disappear. At their core I think American Jews are OK with this stuff. Those who aren’t are probably intimidated, and I’ll grant they have plenty of reasons to be fearful. The Zionists don’t care who they hurt in their unending crusade of theft and murder, so destroying the lives of a few “self-hating” Americans wouldn’t bother them a bit.

    h**p://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/transferred-detention-facilities/

    • Anna
      December 26, 2017 at 8:06 pm

      Note that the noisy Pink Pussies are mute like fish.

  20. Curious
    December 25, 2017 at 5:12 am

    Amidst all your very valuable information that not only creates what you know and the expertise of your comments bearing fruit for all, or rather most of your very valuable information that not only expresses what you know. The expertise of your knowledge may I suggest takes half the comment section and defeats the sage information of many posters who also have unique world experiences Abe.
    The essential dogma, although interesting, suggest you have not climbed out of your BF Skinner Box Maze amidst all your very valuable information that not only creates which gives less credence to the expertise of your knowledge. May I suggest taking half the comment section defeats the sage information of many posters who have unique world experience Abe and coupled with your own comments distracts from the body of good articles. The essential dogma, although interesting, suggest you have not climbed out of your BF Skinner Box Maze in search of a piece of nourishment far away, or even in search of a piece any nourishment far away.
    The essential dogma, although interesting, suggest you have not climbed out of your Maze in search of a piece of nourishment far away, or even within the chains that bind you.
    Your category of “troll” may land some credence to your verbal diarrhea, but those of us who have said it before, it, thread becomes the Dept of Redundancy Dept so your message becomes diluted and common.
    Let me add I don’t thing you’re wrong, just a Tolstoy-want to be in your ramblings. There is so much to qualify before one goes ad hominem on a poster .
    I wish you well in the new year, and it’ worth it to be not to quote your drivel, no matter how informed you wordiness tries to present to the issue at hand I enjoy Tolstoy, but it has a place.
    Keep on keeping on without the ad hominem is just my opinion. Don’t lose your passion for what is right, especially the criminal country trying to be a Jewish State. Bibi has so much blood on his hands he should, be ostracized as a politician and a human. But your salivation doesn’t have to drool at every Pavlovian ring.
    This much I think we agree on.
    Enjoy your turn into the gnu yar. We all deserve a break form the criminals running many countries.

    • Abe
      December 26, 2017 at 12:02 am

      In the interest of expediency: Names taken.

      “verbal diarrhea” – “Curious” (December 25, 2017)

      “verbal diarrhoea” – “Paranam Kid” (September 27, 28, 29, 30, 2017)
      https://consortiumnews.com/2017/09/23/israels-stall-forever-peace-plan/

      Hasbara troll doppelgängers start share their “passion” – loudly complaining about “redundancy”, “data dumps”, “La La Land”, and other mischigas – when fact-based analysis of Israeli government misdeeds or pro-Israel Lobby influence is presented.

      Hasbara propaganda online has intensified with the revelation of Israel-gate and Israeli military threats against Lebanon, Syria and Iran.

      Enjoy your turn, comrade “Curious”. But don’t expect a break if your “passion” turns curiously toxic.

      Just sayin’.

      • Curious
        December 28, 2017 at 4:27 pm

        Gulability test for our troll alert from Abe. I’m glad to see you are still in that BF Skinner box searching for some morsel to attack individuals. Change must be as difficult for you as getting out of the Maze. Not only are you becoming predictable redundant you are becoming increasingly banal in your reports.
        I started posting long before your version of a troll became a pejoratively used expression on this site. Too bad your eyes and eyes are closed.
        I am no more your troll than the JFK committed suicide. Please get off your soapbox and provide some needed knowledge for those who still seek this knowledge. Your version of a troll is a distraction, and usually, and especially in my case, wrong.
        This troll biz was cleared up about a month ago, but as is your wanton attacks haven’t changed my suggestion is to listen and learn. It may even work for someone as ignorant as you, given time.
        I know, “Hilary ensues” and all the rest of your tired and mundane troll fishing that is normally off base and just plain stupid.

        • Curious
          December 28, 2017 at 4:28 pm

          Hilarity

    • Abe
      December 26, 2017 at 4:01 pm

      Clearly “there is so much to qualify” before one goes Hasbara like comrade “Curious”.

      Given the daily revelations of Israel-gate, the latest furtive Hasbara troll army directive must be: “play nice”.

      But our ever-zealous Hasbara trolls – or “many posters who have unique world experiences” as “Curious” qualifies them – tend to take these propaganda directives a bit too literally.

      According to Hasbara propaganda directives, words and catchphrases like “expertise”, “nourishment” and “your very valuable information” must sound “nice”.

      (So “more is better” comrade “Curious” went out of his/her way to repeat them three times each in this charming li’l orgy of “wish you well” ramblings.)

      Gotta admit, words like “nourishment” do sound a lot “nicer” than “dogma”, “drool”, “drivel” and “diarrhea”.

      (Apparently there was an additional Hasbara directive to use a lot of “not nice” alliteration.)

      Not sure how long this new “be nice” campaign will continue, but we’ll probably hear more catchphrases like “defeats the sage information of many posters who also have unique world experiences” (repeated 2 times) vomited up by the Hasbara troll army.

      Congratulations, comrade “Curious”. Clearly you “qualify”.

      • Tannenhouser
        December 26, 2017 at 11:23 pm

        Shakes head……..

        Sad

        Curious is right though.

        Matters not what you believe, when your wrong. About me anyways.

        Keep up the good fight Abe.

      • Abe
        December 27, 2017 at 1:45 am

        Inverted Hasbara doppelgänger ad hominem:

        “Keep on keeping on” – “Curious”

        “Keep up the good fight” – “Tannenhouser”

        “Carry on” – “Paranam Kid”

        Congratulations, comrades. Clearly you all “qualify”. Just sayin’.

        • Curious
          December 29, 2017 at 7:07 am

          ‘Well now, aren’t we a thorn in your side to have an opinion other than your own. Shocking.
          You clearly haven’t climbed out of your isolation cave to reflect and listen to other posters, and your examples seem to be of s a copy and paste variety, so this is why I indicate the verbiage is getting tired and a bit worn out. Your blasts of pasting defeats the sage information of many posters here on this site, and yours is a distraction to the body of good comments.
          I think we mostly agree Israel is not only rogue and their desire is more Zionist land grabs, ala the Balfour letter to Mr Rothschild in 1917. I personally feel Israel has overshot their goals and their land grabs, and I do hope they are shut down, despite Halely “taking names” as if these diplomats are children because they don’t agree with the false evidence the US portrays. Israel needs to have the US do their fighting for them, so their propaganda is remarkable. I would be honorable for all the Christian fundamentalists to carry on the front lines, as this would be a task they have supported.

          As you are still in your Skinner box bumping into walls in search of nourishment it is practically impossible to have a worthy discussion with you.
          I am no more a troll than JFK committing suicide.
          You are bound by the chains of your own dogma, and this is too bad because you occasionally post some interesting tidbits, if one can machete through your verse and inverse clauses.
          You remind me of a character in Sartres’ Nausea who described hell as an area without mirrors. You must appear mighty to yourself as a reflection can’t lie, can it? In Satras’ hell there was a character who was so distraught by the lack of mirrors he went up close to a fellow ‘inmate’ and looked at his reflection within the iris of his fellows eyes. Not only is this a reference to how we need a mirror(some more than others) but the logical extension of such an act was the symbology of needing another person to lend credibility to ourselves. Naturally there are other interpretations, but I’ll let that stand for now. I submit to you that your trolll agenda is nothing more than a false positive, and since you don’t listen, you entertain yourself with mundane expressions to feel morally superior to others. Morally superior you are not. But keep peering in that looking glass of yours, since it must tell you you are the greatest of them all.
          As Sartres’ character in the book you neeed to impose on others after seeing your reflection, thinking what you witnesses is the truth and the only truth. The sad part of your posts is you can’t get out of that erosion of hell, or purgatory if you wish. Your reflection and your ‘truth’ is nothing more than the bounce of light off of another retina and it is enough to allow you to grandstand and feel empowered by a simple iris of the eye. As a result, so any posters are trolls to you since you can’t seem to create the fortitude to see your reflection in multiple eyes, and not just one, nor even your own for that matter. I’m also not sure you even know what a “troll” is these days.
          Don’t worry, I won’t say anything congratulatory since you will reverse the meaning in your twisted brain, with ever reducing synapses.
          I’m sure all posters are trolls because they have an opinion. What a struggle it must be for you to work it all out in whatever serves as your form of reality.

        • Abe
          December 29, 2017 at 6:02 pm

          Cute and cuddly li’l comrade “Curious” repeats the “BF Skinner box” catchphrase a third time.

          It’s just a fact.

          Not “an opinion”, not what I “personally feel”, not one of those “other interpretations”, not some occult “sage information” from heroic “others who question”.

          Just a fact: you know, one of those icky “mundane” thingies.

          But facts make the allergies of “Curious” and “Tannenhouser” act up like the dickens, and we can’t have that.

  21. Bernia
    December 25, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    I have yet to meet an Israeli Palestinian who wants to move to the Palestinian State. Why is that? Because the opportunities in Israel are much better in Israel, and the repression of the Palestinian regimes toward women and anything progressive makes life there hell. Islam is a very intolerant religion. They don’t tolerate even other Muslims who have somewhat different ideologies (Sunni, Shia, Druze, Yezidi…). The Druze in Israel find it preferable to anything the Palestinians have to offer for good reason.

  22. Zachary Smith
    December 25, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    I have yet to meet an Israeli Palestinian who wants to move to the Palestinian State.

    Anybody care to explain what this troll is babbling about?

  23. Zachary Smith
    December 25, 2017 at 11:30 pm

    A sad post at Counterpunch.

    The Grinches Who Stole Jerusalem

    Donald Trump fancies himself as a Santa Clause and the White House as his white, swampy workshop. And Nikki Haley, along with a host of cabinet members, fancies herself as Trump’s elf. Indeed, Trump and Haley have served notice to the entire world: We are watching how you vote at the U.N., they threatened; if you’re misbehaving, we will cut off the foreign aid should you vote against us (reminiscent of the “if you’re not with us, you’re against us” mentality).

    He has this to say about the Christian Zionists: “bible-thumping, hip-slapping, mike-grabbing, pulpit-banging, money-begging, ear-piercing, and emotionally-laden gibberish-uttering Hagee-ized clowns running amuck in the White House and Congress”.

    I think that’s a fair description of the Senators and Congressmen who ought to know better. All too many of them believe this stuff themselves.

    By the way, the post author is Christian. Not that any of the “christian” Zionists would give a hoot.

    h**ps://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/25/the-grinches-who-stole-jerusalem/

  24. Zachary Smith
    December 26, 2017 at 12:28 am

    Go Ask Alice: the Curious Case of “Alice Donovan”

    That’s the headline at Counterpunch.

    Curious indeed! The Jeff Bezos’ WP is gloating about this these days.

    The FBI was tracking Donovan as part of a months-long counterintelligence operation code-named “NorthernNight.” Internal bureau reports described her as a pseudonymous foot soldier in an army of Kremlin-led trolls seeking to undermine America’s democratic institutions.

    The timeline of the listed posts is another curiosity. “Alice” becomes active in Feb 25, 2016. It strikes me as odd that the Kremlin waited until then to decide “to undermine America’s democratic institutions.”

    Another possibility seems to be worth considering. Hilary and her bunch KNEW she was going to be president. and what if this was a little bit of early preparation for shutting down internet opposition to the wars she planned to start. The extreme quickness of the Hillary Bunch in pointing at the Russians might conceivably be a result of them having that project already well started and as such it would have been something they could quickly grab and run with.

    Ok, I’m paranoid. But what other reason would there be for the aimless thefts and cut/pastes of “Alice Donovan” except for a later show-and-tell proving that the internet must have more Spying and Control to protect our precious democratic institutions?

    In a nutshell, I’m suggesting that somebody ought to consider the possibility that “Russia Gate” started a mite bit earlier than anybody thought. And maybe for a different reason than being currently advertised.

  25. Zachary Smith
    December 26, 2017 at 12:58 pm

    Earlier the Zionist Troll “Bernia” was speaking of a non-existent “Palestinan State”. Well, it seems that the Israeli plans for such a thing are well advanced.

    Support The Only Peace Plan And Conference That Calls For A Lasting Peace and Full Israeli Sovereignty – The Jordan Is Palestine Conference

    Jordan Is Palestine, Judea and Samaria belong to Israel and Israel is a fully sovereign nation – And with your support, we can make this happen!

    h**p://www.israelifrontline.com/2017/09/jordan-palestine-conference-2017-many-people-agree.html

    Notice that 2017 date. This is an ongoing project! And it’s not a new one. Witness this piece from 2011:

    Would an attack on Iran enable the Jordan-is-Palestine scheme?

    I’ve always said the Israelis would need a crisis which was enormous and frightening to pull this stunt. Given the utterly immoral way they’ve handled things till now, I’d predict some kind of “terrorist attack” which killed several thousand of Israel’s underclass Jews. Something like the 9/11 event in the US. The sharpened bayonets would be fitted on the ends of the IDF rifles, and the death march to Jordan would begin. The so-called Israeli Arab “citizens” would be part of it too. The Holy Shithole would be PURE AND CLEAN! I doubt if good ‘ol “Bernia” was jumping the gun with his crap – it is probably just about TIME for this to happen.

    Extreme elements in the Israeli cabinet wish to see Palestinians of the West Bank transferred to neighboring Jordan. As a result of displacement after the 1948 war, about three million Palestinians — constituting half the population — already live as citizens or refugees in Jordan.
    Currently, a special committee in the Knesset discusses a new bill which identifies Jordan as the Nation State of the Palestinian People.
    Discussions of the so called “Jordanian Option” for a future Palestinian state is already circulating in the U.S., Europe and Israel. The outrageous claim that Palestine is historically absent or invented emanates from the fact that the victor often dictates history.
    The idea of “justified” ethnic cleansing of Palestinians within the occupied territories and Israel sounds immoral to most Israelis. But for those who have no interest in a two-state solution – or in a bi-national state scenario with equality for Arab and Jews- reducing Palestinian presence in Eretz (Greater) Israel may look feasible in circumstances of war.

    Given the inherent gullibility and ignorance and arrogance of Trump, he might be an even better choice than Queen Hillary to pull this off.

    h**p://www.arabamericannews.com/2011/12/17/Would-an-attack-on-Iran-enable-the-Jordan-is-Palestine-scheme/

  26. Zachary Smith
    December 26, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    Follow-up on the case of the Palestinian girl in prison.

    Israeli journalist who called for unspeakable acts against Ahed Tamimi tries, and fails, to backpedal

    Prominent Israeli journalist Ben Caspit caused international furor last week, when he wrote in his Maariv article that “in the case of the girls, we should exact a price at some other opportunity, in the dark, without witnesses and cameras”.

    Caspit has certainly felt the heat in response to his insidious suggestions, and probably began fearing not only for his reputation, but possibly for his job, which besides Maariv also includes the respected Al-Monitor. Israeli activist Ofer Neiman tweeted: “He can’t have it both ways– writing for a liberal peace-oriented outlet and inciting rape/murder/violence.”

    Let’s hear it from the Zionist trolls here who are constantly doing their peace-loving hand-wringing thing. Surely they have something “creative” to do to the uppity Palestinian girl. Or ought I say the subhuman illegal squatter on Holy Israel’s Stolen Land?

    B a s t a r d s.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/journalist-unspeakable-backpedal/

    • Tannenhouser
      December 26, 2017 at 11:35 pm

      I say she gets released to her family with the rights and privlidges full citizenship in the single state (Israel) solution. Extend these rights to the occupied lands and have peace in one voting cycle. I know I know how Zionist troll scummy.

      • Abe
        December 27, 2017 at 2:21 pm

        Comrade what’s-his-name remains allergic to fact-based analysis while insisting a “single state (Israel) solution” will miraculously bring “peace in one voting cycle”.

        Turns out such a plan is advocated by certain “ambitious” right wing Israeli “ex-settler” politicians
        http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/naftali-bennett-one-state-solution-peace-plan/

        Just sayin’.

        Of course, the devil remains in the details.

        We’re not sure if what’s-his-name’s “rights and privlidges [sic] full citizenship” or the sort of discriminatory “autonomy” currently enjoyed by Muslim Israelis would apply in such a “real estate deal”.

        For more fact-based analysis of this question, see the insufferable “data dump” below.

        • Tannenhouser
          December 27, 2017 at 11:34 pm

          I never insisted anything Abe. Stop transferring please.

          Keep it up Abe… your winning.

          If Palestinians and other minorities were granted the rights and privlidges FULL citizenship in the single state of Isreal would provide them. Demographics alone would bring an end to the Zionist regime within one voting cycle.

          Please do carry on with all your nonsense and fact based info while ignoring the simple fact above. Makes you look uber.

          Keep up the good fight Abe.

          No Hasberera troll is safe with you around….. run away run away……

          Your winning.

          • Abe
            December 28, 2017 at 4:10 am

            “Extend these rights to the occupied lands and have peace in one voting cycle.”

            insist (verb) – maintain or put forward a statement positively and assertively

            Allergic to facts “Hasberera [sic]” troll “Tannenhouser” continues to insist: “If Palestinians and other minorities were granted the rights and privlidges [sic] FULL citizenship in the single state of Isreal [sic] would provide them. Demographics alone would bring an end to the Zionist regime within one voting cycle.”

            However, Israel intends to alter the demographics with its tried and true method: population transfers, aka ethnic cleansing, during wartime.

            Were not sure what “”never insisted anything” troll “Tannenberg” means by a “voting cycle”.

            Under normal circumstances, Israel’s basic law requires national elections for the Knesset to take place four years following the previous elections. However, it is possible, and it often happens, that early elections can take place prior to the date set in the basic law.

            That’s still roughly four years, time enough to launch a war with its Saudi BFF (backed by the US, of course) and implement population transfers in the interests of Israel’s “security” and “peace”.

            Comrade “Tanneberg” and the rest of team Hasbara keep tilting at “the simple fact” that Israel is a Jewish supremacist ethnocracy – most decidedly not a democracy – that grants non-Jewish citizens strictly limited rights and privileges.

            The Israeli Jewish regime has little motivation to grant equal rights to non-Jews.

            That is why the Israeli government and the pro-Israel Lobby are striving to oppose the global Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.

            Israel obviously imagines that “”Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished.”

            However, the wheels are coming off Israel’s delusional Charlie Sheen-style “winning” strategy.

            Public awareness of the Israel-gate reality behind all the Russia-gate fictions is increasing, with the Jerusalem gambit conveniently provided a temporary distraction.

            Military assaults on Lebanon and Syria will provide an even bigger distraction.

            Comrade “Tannenberg” will no doubt continue to blather and insist that he/she “never insisted anything”.

          • Tannenhouser
            December 28, 2017 at 10:28 am

            Maintain being the operative word.

            Your constant cherry picking and twisting others words to fit your personal narrative is cute.

            Very… how shall we say status quo protecting. Yes that’s what you do, you protect the status quo. You are almost like a gate keeper here. A zionist shephard you are. Keeping the conversation (attempting to any way’s) strictly on anti Israel/Zionist misdeeds while asphyxiating anything beyond these parameters. Ask about seemingly no Russian actions in calling the crimes out…. your a hasbera troll shut up. Suggest the Palestinians may have been handed a win in Jerusalem if they call the bluff. Shut up your a hasbera troll. Don’t use the correct term according to you, make a spelling error….. shut up you are a Zionist troll. Nothing outside YOUR opinion is allowed to be discussed or even questioned or you and able team swing into action and suppress it

            To top it off you call others trolls. Pot meet kettle.

            You don’t have facts by definition, all you have is your agenda and your beliefs, (some of which I share) positing them as truth’s and facts and then attacking others who question doesn’t make them factual.

            Keep up the good fight.

            Your winning.

          • Abe
            December 28, 2017 at 4:17 pm

            Note how Hasbara troll “Tannenhouser” does not really ever ask, suggest or question.

            The Hasbara troll merely insists.

            When confronted with the facts, particularly the truth about Jewish Israeli discrimination against non-Jewish citizens of Israel, the Hasbara troll ignores the facts and merely insists more loudly.

            Point out the obvious facts about Israel, and the Hasbara troll will loudly insist that its all “cherry picking”, “twisting others words to fit your personal narrative”, “status quo protecting”, “agenda”, “beliefs”, “garbage”, and “beating a dead horse”.

            But facts are facts.

            Hilarity ensues.

            Diversionary talk about the “one-state solution” has been amplified in Hasbara propaganda efforts, particularly those aimed at “progressives”, in order to undermine support for the global Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement.

            Hasbara propaganda rhetoric about a “one-state solution” consistently avoids the truth about Jewish Israeli discrimination against non-Jewish citizens of Israel. The seven decade history of Israeli apartheid leaves no “grey area” in the facts.

            The global BDS movement advocates for and organizes boycotts of Israeli goods and companies, calls for institutions like banks and universities to exclude Israeli companies from their investments, and lobbies for the imposition of international sanctions.

            A 2013 report by economists at Israeli Finance Ministry economists calculated that Israel’s economy could lose up to NIS 40 billion ($10.5 billion) per year if the country is subject to a full international boycott.

            The six-page report warned damage from an international boycott could range from approximately half a billion shekels ($130 million) per year and up to 500 people losing their jobs, up to NIS 40 billion ($10.5 billion) and 36,500 firings, depending on the scope of the boycott and its rate of adoption around the world.

            The report was made public in 2015 following an appeal by the Movement for Freedom of Information, an Israeli NGO. The Israeli Finance Ministry initially refused to release the report, citing its potential to cause strategic harm to the Israeli economy.

            Under the “extreme scenario” of a full international boycott, the EU would effectively boycott all Israeli products and stop foreign investments in the country, similar to sanctions were imposed on Apartheid South Africa.

            Hasbara propaganda efforts have intensified and pro-Israel Lobby activity has increased in attempts to oppose local BDS initiatives.

            Exposure of Israel-gate could quickly escalate to far-reaching, official sanctions against Israel.

            By the way, the reason why the Hasbara troll deliberately and repeatedly uses the mis-spelling “hasbera” is to reduce online search results that immediately reveal the extent of the “poster’s” Hasbara trolling behavior.

        • Tannenhouser
          December 27, 2017 at 11:49 pm

          Your link invalidates itself as similar in any way to what I am advocating before the end of the first paragraph.

          Care to cherry pick any more words and subscribe your own meanings way outside the context they are presented originally?

          #feelfree

          Go fish Abe.

          Maybe you prefer tilting at Tannenhousers:)

          If you only knew……

          Keep up the good fight Abe.

          Your winning.

          • Abe
            December 28, 2017 at 4:30 am

            What comrade “Tannenhouser” is “advocating” requires Israel to be a democracy. Israel is not a democracy. What “Tannenhouser” presented invalidates itself.

            However, the “one-state solution” meme has recent been amplified in political discourse concerning Israel for reasons outlined below.

            Hasbara troll army “posters” are abuzz about the Jerusalem gambit. Comrade “Tannenhouser” keeps curiously “advocating”. Anything and everything to distract attention as Israel-gate grinds forward and war plans are implemented.

      • Abe
        December 27, 2017 at 3:21 pm

        According to the Israel Central Bureau of Statistics (May 2003), Muslims, including Bedouins, make up 82% of the entire non-Jewish population in Israel, along with around 9% Druze, and 9% Christians.

        Many non-Jewish citizens feel that the Israeli state, as well as society at large, not only actively limits them to second-class citizenship, but treats them as enemies, affecting their perception of the de jure versus de facto quality of their citizenship.

        The Future Vision of the Palestinian Arabs in Israel, a joint document by prominent Arab citizens of Israel, calls for the state of Israel to shed its Jewish identity and become “a state of all its citizens”.
        https://www.adalah.org/uploads/oldfiles/newsletter/eng/dec06/tasawor-mostaqbali.pdf

        The 2006 joint document states “Defining the Israeli State as a Jewish State and exploiting democracy in the service of its Jewishness excludes us, and creates tension between us and the nature and essence of the State.” The document explains that by definition the “Jewish State” concept is based on ethnically preferential treatment towards Jews enshrined in immigration (the Law of Return) and land policy (the Jewish National Fund), and calls for the establishment of minority rights protections enforced by an independent anti-discrimination commission.

        Yousef Munayyer, an Israeli citizen and the executive director of The Jerusalem Fund, wrote that Palestinians only have varying degrees of limited rights in Israel. He states that although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, less than 7 percent of the budget is allocated to Palestinian citizens. He describes the 1.5 million Arab citizens of Israel as second-class citizens while four million more are not citizens at all. He states that a Jew from any country can move to Israel but a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. Munayyer also described the difficulties he and his wife faced when visiting the country.

        A 2016 survey of Israel’s non-Jewish citizens found that 76% reject its definition as a “Jewish state”.

    • Abe
      December 27, 2017 at 3:34 am

      Living in an Apartheid state established by war and ethnic cleansing, Israeli Jews have generally tended to view a one-state solution as a demographic threat that would overturn the prevailing Jewish majority within Israel.

      Current support among Israeli Jews, and Jews generally, for a one-state solution is very low. However, as has been demonstrated repeatedly in the past, Jewish public opinion in Israel and abroad can shift dramatically in a context of a fabricated “threat to Israel”.

      Several Israeli Jewish politicians, including former defense minister Moshe Arens, current President Reuven Rivlin, and right wing figures like Deputy Foreign Minister Tzipi Hotovely and Uri Ariel, have voiced support for a one-state solution that would require Israeli annexation of Palestinian territory, with differing views on how to dispose of the Palestinian Muslim population.

      Right wing Israeli Jewish politicians and political commentators have advocated outright annexation of the West Bank, granting its Muslim Palestinian population Israeli citizenship while maintaining Israel’s current status as a Jewish state.

      In 2013, Likud Knesset Minister Hotovely argued that Israel should annex the West Bank as a historic part of the Land of Israel.

      Naftali Bennett, leader of the Jewish Home party, included in many Likud-led coalitions, has argued for official Israeli annexation of Zone C of the West Bank. Zone C, agreed upon as part of the Oslo Accords, comprises about 60% of West Bank land and is currently under Israeli military control.

      In her book The Israeli Solution (2014), American-born Israeli propagandist Caroline Glick claims that Israel could annex the West Bank and still maintain a Jewish demographic majority. Glick is a Senior Fellow at the pro-Israel Center for Security Policy, a Washington, D.C. neocon think tank described by the Southern Poverty Law Center in 2016 as a hate group and “conspiracy-oriented mouthpiece” for the anti-Muslim movement. She also is a lecturer in tactical warfare at the IDF’s Command and Staff College, and a columnist for the Jerusalem Post.

      Israeli Jewish demographers like Arnon Soffer and Sergio DellaPergola have presented figures that suggest Israel can secure a Jewish numerical majority population with annexation of the West Bank. However, according to DellaPergola, the high total fertility rate among Muslim Palestinians accompanied by a return of Palestinian refugees, would quickly render Jews a minority.

      Israel has accelerated seizure of Palestinian homes and land. so what is the Israeli end game?

      Retaining a Jewish majority in “Greater Israel” will require further ethnic cleansing of the occupied Palestinian territory under the guise of some new fabricated “threat to Israel”.

      Media preparations for a manufactured “threat” are well underway.

      On 3 December 2017, Jared Kushner was keynote speaker at the Saban Forum at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. Kushner had an entertaining li’l “real estate deal” chat with the Clinton-supporting Israeli-American media mogul Haim Saban,

      Earlier that day, Benjamin Netanyahu had addressed the Brookings Institution audience in a video call. he insisted that the “only workable solution is not a unitary state, but a demilitarized Palestinian state that recognizes the Jewish state”.

      Netanyahu unequivocally declared, “Israel will not be a binational state.”

      On the surface, Netanyahu’s remarks appear to be an absolute rejection of a one-state resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

      In fact, what Netanyahu rejects is any solution other than the current Apartheid regime of Israeli Jewish domination over its Muslim citizens.

      A unilateral Israeli annexation of the entire West Bank would be enforced in the context of a fabricated “threat to Israel”.

      The purported “threat” would likely be manufactured to accompany planned military attacks on Lebanon and Syria by Israeli-Saudi Axis forces coordinated with their Al Qaeda and ISIS terrorist proxies. Israeli annexation of the West Bank as a “security” would probably be endorsed by whatever pro-Israel puppet then occupied the White House.

  27. Zachary Smith
    December 27, 2017 at 12:10 am

    “Israeli military repression of protests by the villagers has left many members of the family wounded, killed or imprisoned over the years. Despite all of this criminality, Ahed, a young lady, is being labeled a provocateur by many in Israel for having the audacity to slap a heavily armed Israeli soldier.”

    Tamimi is an icon for many Palestinians, but some members of Israel’s far-right accuse her and her family of deliberately using social media to discredit Israel and portray it in the worst light possible.

    Michael Oren, Israel’s former ambassador to the U.S., said Tamimi is a pawn used to spread anti-Israeli sentiment.

    “The Tamimi family—which may not be a real family—dresses up kids in American clothes and pays them to provoke IDF troops on camera. This cynical and cruel use of children constitutes abuse. Human rights organizations must investigate!” Oren tweeted on Tuesday.

    Israel is a victim, and the Palestinians are child abusers. Wonder why the Zionist Trolls here haven’t picked up on that theme?

    • Tannenhouser
      December 27, 2017 at 11:41 pm

      Is that a rhetorical question Zach?

  28. Zachary Smith
    December 27, 2017 at 12:33 am

    Miri Regev, Israel’s ‘Culture’ Minister, who previously compared African refugees in Israel to ‘cancer’ and then apologised to cancer victims for comparing refugees to them, spoke of her ‘humiliation’ and suggested they should have opened fire.

    and

    Naftali Bennet, the Education Minister went further and stated that she should end her life in prison. Of course from his perspective it is logical. A non-Jew striking a Jewish Israeli soldier is a heinous offence whereas shooting a Palestinian child in the head is just one of those things. After all Bennet is on record as boasting ‘I’ve killed many Arabs in my life, and there’s no problem with that.’

    Is it any wonder these vermin are so fond of what Trump is doing of late?

    h**p://azvsas.blogspot.com/2017/12/torture-couldnt-happen-to-jewish-child.html

    (new site to me – hope it isn’t a stealth Zionist or N A Z I place)

  29. Zachary Smith
    December 28, 2017 at 12:04 pm

    Israel likes to brag about having “the most moral army in the world”. They’re a regular bunch of ethical supermen!

    The second bad day for the IDF was during the Gaza protests against the Jerusalem declaration, when Gazans approached the fence with Israel waving Palestinian flags. Among the demonstrators was Ibrahim Abu Thurayyah. He was a double-amputee who lost his legs in a 2008 Israeli missile attack. Despite his disability, he insisted at being in the front lines of every protest, including the one that day. There he was in a wheelchair waving his flag.

    Just then, an Israeli sniper bullet tore through his brain, killing him instantly. A clean shot, a good kill. The authorities, who always investigate these incidents to ensure they’re kosher, found the killer operated within organization ethical guidelines.

    The Israeli hasbara media has put out the word that the sniper wasn’t intending to kill Abu Thurayyah. Somehow it was an unfortunate accident. But I can tell you that a sniper doesn’t accidentally kill a man sitting in a wheelchair. He aims to kill. And if he does miss, he should be drummed out of the corps. But if we could follow the career of this expert killer we’d find that he earns a commendation for this brave act in defense of the homeland. No, he’s going right up the career military ladder. On his way to glory.

    The Zionist Trolls ought to be very proud of their IDF. A bullet into the brain of a Paleo guy sitting in a wheelchair is so VERY “ethical”. (I’m pretty sure the Christian Zionists don’t give a damn so long as events like this make The Rapture more likely)

    h**ps://www.richardsilverstein.com/2017/12/19/idfs-no-good-terrible-bad-week/

  30. Zachary Smith
    December 28, 2017 at 11:32 pm

    News Flash.

    US won’t strike ISIS resurgent in Assad-ruled areas, pushes Russia to curb pro-Iranian Hizballah push near Israel

    The mouthpiece is a Brit, and here he is at the VOA site:

    Islamic State fighters are trying to make their way to parts of Syria controlled by President Bashar al-Assad, where they are apparently able to operate freely.

    “We are seeing the movement of limited numbers of ISIS militants westwards,” said British Maj. Gen. Felix Gedney, deputy commander of Strategy and Support for the U.S.-backed coalition to defeat the Islamic State terror group.

    “They seem to be moving with impunity through regime-held territory,” Gedney said of the Islamic State fighters, during a briefing from Baghdad Wednesday.

    “The regime is either unwilling or unable to defeat Daesh within their borders,” he added, using the Arabic acronym for the terror group.

    It’s a terrible thing when the “US-backed coalition” has to watch ISIS being given a free ride by Assad and the evil Russians. All their “fighting” against ISIS was obviously merely a pretense – they’ve been secret supporters all the time! Therefore the US absolutely must stay in Syria until the head choppers and their Syrian supporters are truly defeated.

    h**ps://www.voanews.com/a/islamic-state-fighters-fleeing-to-assad-controlled-parts-ofsyria/4181821.html

    Look again at that link. It’s Voice Of America. We’re talking True Americans like Hillary Clinton. Victoria Nuland. Adam Schiff. And more recently, Donald Trump. People who hate ISIS and all it stands for. And of course they hate Assad and the Russians for helping the ISIS terrorists in such obvious ways.

    The evil Russians are also permitting triply evil Iran in wiping out Freedom Fighters near Israel. As before, they’re allowing Assad to smite these Friends of Holy Israel with no regard for decency.

    The Syrian army, backed by local militias a financed and equipped by Iran, have been escalating a fierce assault against Sunni rebels in an enclave in the foothills of Mount Hermon.
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    Israel had warned Hezbollah against trying to open a front in the Golan Heights and was believed to be behind the killing a prominent commander in an air strike in 2015 whom the group later admitted had overseen a local Hezbollah presence in the area.

    “This is an effort by Iran and its proxy Hezbollah to expand the lines of engagement with Israel. The question is will Israel allow that?” said Fayez al Dweiri, a retired Jordanian general who follows Syria closely.

    The mere presence of the filthy Iranians is enough to irritate the otherwise noble and decent Zionists. They rightfully see all of the best-watered parts of Syria as ultimately belonging to them, and they’re just not going to tolerate the presence of the towelheads from Iran who probably have blueprints of nuclear weapons hidden in their backpacks.

    h**p://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Syria-Iranian-proxies-threaten-military-action-against-rebels-on-Israeli-border-520119

  31. Zachary Smith
    December 29, 2017 at 1:27 am

    Update. The Heroic IDF is going to prosecute, and the 16-year-old “will face assault charges in an Israeli military court, prosecutors said on Thursday.”

    Just this once, I’m going to break my rule against linking to the despicable Neocon York Times. Take a look how they’ve “tamed down” the story into “he-said/she said”. The reader of this pablum doesn’t have a clue that what’s happening is the Israeli theft of the village’s water and the unending abuse of the the inhabitants who are resisting. Resisting the New Nazis just isn’t allowed!

    h**ps://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2017/12/28/world/middleeast/28reuters-israel-palestinians-teen.html

    Now for another view.

    Nabi Saleh

    Nabi Saleh could have been an inconsequential village with a population of about 600 in the middle of Ramallah’s rolling hills if not for a small fresh water spring called Ein al-Qaws and a determined community unwilling to back down.

    Ein al-Qaws had been the village’s sole water source for generations. In 2008, the neighboring illegal Israeli settlement of Halamish began to take over the spring. Soon a road was built, with the spring on the side of the settlement, and Nabi Saleh on the other. Villagers were denied access to the spring that provided for their community for as long as anyone could remember.

    That the subhuman Paleos are resisting the thefts and casual killings is just infuriating to God’s Favorite Thieves and Murderers. They want blood, and that’s not a figure of speech.

    h**p://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/israeli-protesting-looking/

    A final quote from another site:

    The gulf between the two opposing fantasies that define Israel’s self-image has only grown with the years: a country that still imagines itself to be David to the Arab Goliath—noble, outnumbered, and brave—while taking pride in the unrivaled lethality and sophistication of its military. Ahed made both those convictions crumble. Before the world, she had again revealed Israel to be the bully. And watching that video, they knew that their guns are worthless, their strength a sham. For revealing those secrets, for showing the world how weak and fearful they know themselves to be, Ahed had to be punished. And so the Defense Minister of the country with the most technologically advanced military in the world stooped from his throne to personally promise that not just Ahed and her parents but “everyone around them” would get “what they deserve.” The Minister of Education was more specific: Ahed should be locked up for life, he said, so serious was her crime.

    Beating up on the helpless Paleos has become a Rite Of Passage with the IDF. It reminds me of how the Imperial Japanese Army would “blood” recruits by forcing them to murder some helpless civilian on Formosa or mainland China. Presumably this is going to turn the IDF ******* (rhymes with “hussies”, starts with a “p”) into ravening tigers when they go north to smite Hezbollah. Assuming of course Trump can’t be conned into doing the job for them.

    Israel is beginning to brag about total domination in the area, and with their 99% ownership of the US Congress and the consequent change of the US into a colony of the Zionists, they just don’t care what anybody thinks anymore. And it’s starting to show.

  32. Zachary Smith
    December 29, 2017 at 12:59 pm

    How Ahed Tamimi was slapped first, and why no one is talking about it

    I’m so disgusted by all this that I didn’t even try to examine the videos. Given my own experiences, this is the part of the link I want to emphasize.

    We can begin to see the pathology in the video tailoring of pro-Israeli sites. Now, if you search for “Ahed Tamimi video” on Google for example, the first hits of an actual video will be tailored ones, by pro-Israel organisations. At the top I get a “Legal Insurrection” video of 1:12 minutes. It is conditioned by text saying that “the Tamimi clan is notorious for sending their children to confront Israeli police and soldiers for the cameras, hoping for a reaction that will create a viral video”, that “in this video from 2017, Ahed Tamimi, who has been exploited for videos since early childhood, hits and kicks Israeli soldiers, who do not react”. The video edits the mentioned slapping of Ahed out.

    Next actual video search hit: A Stand With Us video. Here they elevate the level of mockery. It starts with the title “BDS fake films presents”…”She waits for the camera to record”…”and starts a fake fight” etc. – “starring Ahed Tamimi AKA Shirley Temper”. Then comes the short ‘slap’ clip, where the first slapping by the soldier is edited out. It ends with further mockery: “Available in your inciting social media”, with small print, including “as soon as the camera turn on [sic], she provokes IDF soldiers, hoping they would lose their temper”.

    The propaganda armies for the Holy Shithole of Israel lie. But unlike the Creationists, who have merely millions of dollars of funding, or the Global Warming Deniers who have only hundreds of millions from the likes of Exxon, the Trolls For Israel have unlimited funding. Their lies are going to be amplified by the Corporate Media, and especially the likes of Jeff Bezos’ Washington Post and the Neocon York Times.

    I now notice how Google makes many topics about Israel very, very difficult to research. I’m going to be staggered with all the carefully prepared propaganda themes – screens and screens of them. It’s getting so I have to use other search engines to find out the exact search terms required before having any success whatever. With those I can usually still find what I was looking for. But how much longer before Google simply removes those results from the search? How much longer before I get on a no-fly list (or worse) for even having the gall to search for the carefully hidden dirt on God’s Favorite Thieves and Murderers?

  33. Zachary Smith
    December 29, 2017 at 1:00 pm
  34. Zachary Smith
    December 29, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    Meanwhile, Ahed Tamimi’s Twitter account has allegedly disappeared; the company is not responding to inquiries on the matter. Amira’s Facebook account also reportedly vanished. When previously asked whether Israel is involved in blocking websites, former IDF Censor Sima Vaknin-Gil, who today serves as the director general of the Strategic Affairs Ministry, responded: “The ways of God are wonderful. Some things happen by chance, some things do not.”

    Unlimited money and unrestricted control over damned near everything = Act Of God.

    Watching out for your favorite thieves and murderers is a Godly Duty, or so it seems.

    https://972mag.com/israel-arrests-three-leading-nonviolent-palestinian-activists/132003/

  35. Zachary Smith
    December 29, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Why Is the State of Israel So Afraid of 16-Year-Old Ahed Tamimi?

    Israel is right that Ahed Tamimi poses a risk. But it isn’t a risk to one of the most heavily armed and advanced militaries in the world or to the legal case being built against her. The risk she poses is in her refusal to submit to the Israeli demand that Palestinians acquiesce to their own occupation. Israeli logic is that Palestinians should cooperate with their own oppression. They should move quietly through the checkpoints, open their bags, not look their occupiers in the eye and not challenge or protest the theft of their lands, resources and freedoms. Israeli logic is that if they don’t like it, they can leave. Actually, they would strongly prefer that Palestinians leave. The strategy is to make life so unbearable for Palestinians, that they leave willingly. This even has a name: “voluntary transfer.”

    The Zionist Trolls are going to return. When they do, you’re going to often see their theme of “why don’t they just behave”. The subhuman squatters on the Stolen Land should give up. Go somewhere else. They ought to reward the people who are stealing their land and water and slaughtering them at every turn. Disappearing would fix that – says the Zionist Trolls. Obviously the Paleos are the entire problem, and the noble and pure Thieves and Murderers are really vexed how to beat reason into their small brains. Of course, bullets into those small brains are another option for the Good Zionists who God loves most of all the peoples on the Earth.

    https://www.alternet.org/local-peace-economy/where-metoo-movement-ahed-tamimi

  36. Zachary Smith
    December 30, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    What Israelis are telling each other when they are being cautious about the chit-chat getting reprinted.

    For years, she has been the poster girl of Palestinian propaganda. The jewel in the crown. The star of Pallywood, a term coined by Prof. Richard Landes to describe the Palestinians’ staged false displays for the purpose of accusing Israel of violence.

    Ahed Tamimi, of course, isn’t the only one in these displays. But she’s the best. She looks just like a girl who could capture the hearts of foreign photojournalists and the Western public opinion. She has neither a hijab nor a burqa. On the contrary, she has a typical European look. A girl who looks like their girl.

    For years, she has been at the center of more and more staged provocations. She always tries to get IDF soldiers to respond with violence, and she always fails. Because IDF soldiers are world champions in self-restraint.

    Notice the preening on display here. The individuals making up the Most Moral Army In The World – of course they’re also heroes in every other way.

    That spawn of Satan – Ahed Tamimi – looks like a real human being. The girl next door, or maybe even your kid. Awfully hard to demonize her. No wonder the Zionists are frothing at the mouth. But Yahweh works in many ways, and after this young woman has been given the Guantanamo Treatment, things will change. Starving and freezing and drugs and sleep deprivation can work wonders – it’ll be another miracle.

  37. Zachary Smith
    December 30, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    A little lesson about attitudes.

    A Jew boycotting Israel? Must be a joke

    Seems that a young and famous New Zealand singer was recently convinced to cancel a tour in Israel. The next rant is about the person supposedly responsible.

    The difference between you and me, Justin, is that I’m an Israeli Jew and you’re a Jew. That’s it. You have no nationality. You live in a negligible, insignificant sheepfold stuck somewhere at the end of the universe: New Zealand, which robbed the indigenous Maori people of their land in favor of a European colony. By the way, what have you done to promote a cultural boycott against your exploiting country, Justin? I’d like to hear about that.

    Notice how even God’s Favorite People are ranked. An “Israeli Jew” far outranks a sheep-shagger variety in a nowhere place like New Zealand. Mind you, this from an author who has described himself to be a “Liberal Jew”. So on this scale the Right Wing Settlers – the ones on the front lines of the thefts and murders – they must be the crème de la crème, the most highly esteemed of all of Yahweh’s Favorite People.

    More from the “Liberal Jew” author:

    That same developed sense of humor alone can explain why you favor your Palestinian friend’s side, the side which hijacks planes, the side which hangs gay people on electric poles, the side which rips out girls’ throats in honor killings, the side which has failed to establish any state or society which isn’t totalitarian, chauvinist, primitive and/or murderous.

    Of course, when HIS side practices apartheid, theft, murder, starves and bombs Gaza with high explosives and white phosphorus, poisons wells, and spits on Christians; these are of course all in a good cause. Quite unlike the barbaric Muslims.

    A high velocity bullet impacting the brain of a Paleo waving a flag while sitting in a wheel chair is the direct opposite of all the evil things mentioned in the quote.

  38. Zachary Smith
    December 30, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    Award-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald has outlined the alarming implications of the state censorship promoted by social networking giant Facebook when it deletes accounts of politicians and activists whose content the US and Israeli governments don’t happen to approve of.

    In his article for The Intercept, Greenwald pointed to the “censorship rampage” Facebook is currently engaged in against Palestinian social media activists following recent threats by Israel to fine or even block the social media resource in the country if it failed to comply with its demands.

    Earlier this month, Israel’s Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked boasted that Facebook had approved 95% of the 158 requests to remove content that Tel Aviv categorized as “incitement.” According to Greenwald, given that the vast majority of Palestinians use Facebook as a news source, the social media giant’s censorship effectively gives the Israeli government “virtually unfettered control over a key communications forum of Palestinians.”

    Only 95%? They’re going to have to hustle to match their control of the US Congress.

    https://sputniknews.com/science/201712301060438026-dangers-of-facebook-censorship/

  39. Zachary Smith
    December 30, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    First a word about the author, who I previously knew nothing about. He was born and raised in the Orthodox faction. An article about him remarked –

    This man’s ego could set off car alarms blocks away. Okay, he later concedes, “I like picking up the newspaper or turning on a TV and seeing me.”

    On down in the profile was this:

    “I don’t support attacks on civilians by anyone, but you know what?” Cohen says, working himself into a rant. “I think what Israel does is far more morally repugnant than what Hamas does.”

    Ego size XXXL or not, that won me over. So on to the Counterpunch article by this person.

    Parallel Worlds: Gaza and Israel
    by Stanley L. Cohen

    But an hour’s drive, yet worlds away, sits Gaza; home to two million Palestinians.

    Once known, in polite social circles, as the earth’s largest open air prison, it long ago moved on from jail to Israeli administered death camp. Whether by embargo or bombs, it is simply impossible to watch the life and death of the coastal enclave without seeing Israel’s criminal plan unfold.

    It’s impossible to summarize the degree to which the Israelis are striving to make Gaza uninhabitable. One point which I ought to have known, but didn’t, was the fact that Israel has used uranium munitions on Gaza. Cancer rates from that and the other Israel-administered poisons are soaring.

    Open-air genocide by God’s Favorite People. They are cheered on by American Fundies who pretend to love those Favorite People until such time as The Rapture occurs and the Fundies plan to cheer another sort of slaughter.

    Criminals and criminal enablers. What a mess.

    https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/12/29/parallel-worlds-gaza-and-israel/

  40. Zachary Smith
    December 30, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    From Mondoweiss – a translation of a radio debate in Hebrew.

    The only part I’m posting here is the blogger’s rather lengthy introduction. Even THAT has some eye-opening material.

    Below is my translation of a 7-minute debate between Israeli writers about the case of 16-year-old Ahed Tamimi slapping an occupying soldier in Nabi Saleh on December 15. The debate took place on the Maariv-owned Radio 103 FM two days ago (Hebrew).

    Ben Caspit, the journalist who suggested that “in the case of the [Tamimi] girls, we should exact a price at some other opportunity, in the dark, without witnesses and cameras” last week, is debating with Shany Littman, who wrote an article in response (Haaretz, Hebrew) titled “Did Ben Caspit’s hand tremble when he wrote these lines”.

    The debate occurs on Caspit’s own turf – Maariv, in more than one sense. The moderator, rightwing politician Arye Eldad, is squarely on Caspit’s side and repeatedly interjects against Littman, who is actually being grilled by the two for daring to suggest that Caspit’s words may have had …s e x u a l… connotations. Caspit activates what is known as ‘gaslighting’, saying to her that she [and everyone who had the same connotation] is a …s e x u a l … p e r v e r t… herself, and that she has a “dirty mind”. When Littman says that “I want that the state of Israel act in a fair and just manner, and that it doesn’t attempt, as was hinted in this article, to hide its actions,” Caspit answers “It’s a bit sick, what you are suggesting, I swear to you.”

    Both Caspit and Eldad are bewildered that Littman mentions the occupation. Eldad interjects: “Where occupation? What’s the occupation? How did we get to the occupation?” Caspit says that “it’s not at all the subject, don’t talk to me now about the occupation,” Eldad says “I don’t understand how we got to the occupation,” and Caspit concludes, “Arye, there’s no occupation”.

    Eldad ends the debate reaffirming: “By the way – there’s no occupation,” to which Caspit answers: “There’s no occupation”.

    Caspit, the supposed center-leftist, furthermore refers in passing to the occupation as the “so-called occupation”, echoing US Ambassador David Friedman (a supporter of illegal settlements) who spoke of an “alleged occupation” four months ago, and who has more recently asked diplomats to stop using the word ‘occupation’, following an Israeli Hasbara attempt to erase the term from discourse and public awareness, as I reported last year. Caspit and Eldad’s line follows this trend, of blurring or eliminating the overall paradigm of military occupation which Littman seeks to address.

    The rest of it speaks for itself, and requires no further comment.

    The two noble defenders of no-witness off-camera …r a p e… in the dark of the night are part of the mainstream culture in Isreal. In other words, they are living in a world of their own making, and it’s an ugly world.

    Do keep in mind that the Zionist Trolls here live in the exact same world. No Occupation! Our Land!!

    Now for the actual “exchange” – if that’s what you call two rightwingnut Zionist men ganging up on a woman:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2017/12/writing-incitement-littman/

  41. Zachary Smith
    December 30, 2017 at 10:53 pm

    Completely off-topic for a moment.

    That term “gaslighting” was a brand new word to me, and I had to make an internet search to find what it meant.

    Gaslighting is a form of manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, hoping to make them question their own memory, perception, and sanity.

    True story – once upon a time I ran into a paperback book by Wilson Bryan Key titled Subliminal Seduction. This was utterly fascinating to me, and found myself with a new hobby. The reproductions of the advertisements in the cheap paperback were just awful, and I started trying to locate the originals. That eventually expanded to trying to find my own examples of print ads with outrageous features. Eventually I compiled quite a stack of the ads I’d removed from magazines before discarding them.

    Professor Key was not only right, but the situation was even worse than he had described in his books and articles. That’s where things got interesting. When I proudly showed off my scrapbooks with their displays, I learned something about human nature I hadn’t known before. 99% of the people first tried to deny the existence of what I was showing them. But as the pages were turned and the displays became more vivid, their attitude changed to one of accusation. I was the one to blame! If I didn’t have such a dirty mind I wouldn’t have seen those images and themes, and wouldn’t be troubling them. Mind you, some of these were so awesome that NOBODY could deny what they were seeing.

    In the end I made digital copies of the “best” ones, and they’re in a forgotten folder somewhere. My 100% success rate of forcing people to admit that the nation’s advertisers have been getting away with printing horribly obnoxious pornography for many decades made ME the guilty party. The viewers resolved their problem by forgetting everything they’d seen and by blaming the entire issue on me. That people are able to do such incredible mental gymnastics is the only really useful thing I learned from the experience. Well, that and the rejection of some of the professional “deniers”. For a while I valued the Skeptical Inquirer, and kept copies I’d find for reference. I’ve ditched them all on account of this:

    https://www.csicop.org/si/show/subliminal_perception_facts_and_fallacies

    Psychologists are for sale like everybody else, and they’ve sold out in at least two fields. Subliminals and Torture. The latter is quite unforgivable.

  42. Zachary Smith
    January 1, 2018 at 2:36 pm

    An American Rabbi has accused the New Zealand singer Lorde of abetting genocide in Syria by performing in Russia.

    h**ps://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jan/01/lorde-called-a-bigot-over-israel-stance-in-full-page-washington-post-ad

    That’s right. Performing for Russia, a nation which saved Syria from the Head Choppers and Human Organ Eaters is bad. Naturally Jeff Bezos’ Washington Post was A-OK with publishing the advertisement.

    https://www.facebook.com/RabbiShmuleyBoteach/photos/a.454258401088.235152.59215506088/10155320947831089/?type=3

    Sorry about the Facebook link, but that’s the only graphic I could find of the ad.

    The holy shithole is really pulling out all the stops these days.

  43. Zachary Smith
    January 1, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    For the purpose of this post I’m creating an imaginary US politician – somebody I’ll call IUSP.

    “I wish the Palestinian people success in their noble quest for freedom,” IUSP said in a video posted on his Facebook page.

    “Brave Palestinians are pouring into the streets. They seek freedom. They seek justice. They seek the basic liberties that have been denied them for decades. Israel’s cruel regime wastes tens of billions of dollars spreading hate.”

    IUSP added that more Western countries should condemn Tel Aviv for trying to put down the protests.

    “Sadly many European governments watch in silence as young heroic Palestinians are beaten in the streets. That’s just not right. And I, for one, will not stay silent,” he said.

    At the link you can see who “IUSP” was in the actual quote. And how I’ve switched a couple of other names.

    http://isp.netscape.com/news/story/0002/20180101/M1L8N1OW0EV_8710638

    The sheer gall of that ugly ***** is stunning.

    And I believe it’s a FACT there is nobody in the US political arena to whom I could assign the role of IUSP. The **** ******** owns them all, lock, stock, and barrel.

  44. Zachary Smith
    January 2, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    Shmuley Boteach’s unhinged attack on Lorde will only help the movement to boycott Israel

    The link has a better image of the advertisement in the wretched Washington Post. It also has a photograph of two characters for which I’m going to follow the “Smokey and the Bandit” precedent in labeling Big and Little Jackass.

    In one of his many attempts to slime critics of Israel with newspaper ad purchases, Shmuley Boteach labels Lorde an anti-Semite over her cancellation and implies that she supports the atrocities of the government of Syria. Boteach is an ardent supporter of Donald Trump and a confidante of Steve Bannon, the notorious former Trump Administration staffer known for running the white nationalist Breitbart publication.

    I hadn’t known or even cared much about Steve Bannon before now. To me he was just another generic Trumpie. Not anymore. The man is a wealthy jerk with an ugly agenda.

    http://mondoweiss.net/2018/01/boteachs-unhinged-movement/

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