Exclusive: Now that the neocons have housebroken President Trump, they are ready for a resumption of their “regime change” agenda, with Iran next in their crosshairs, reports Jonathan Marshall.
By Jonathan Marshall
The Trump administration’s growing use of military force in Syria, Iraq, and Yemen has neoconservative hawks rooting for armed confrontation with what they view as the root of all evil in the Middle East: Iran.
Many of these armchair warriors recently cheered President Trump’s decision to take on the Assad regime — and Moscow — by firing 59 Tomahawk cruise missile at a Syrian air base alleged to be the source of a chemical weapons attack. But they urged him to do more.
Weekly Standard editor William Kristol tweeted, “Punishing Assad for use of chemical weapons is good. Regime change in Iran is the prize.”
Kristol co-founded the infamous Project on the New American Century in 1997 to promote American “global hegemony” and “challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values.” It began lobbying for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein as early as 1998, but always kept Iran in its sights as well.
With Saddam dead and Syria’s Assad stripped of much of his power, Iran is now at the center of neocon crosshairs. Kristol linked his recent tweet to a Washington Post column by two stalwart advocates of ousting the mullahs in Tehran: Reuel Gerecht and Ray Takeyh.
Titled “How Trump Can Help Cripple the Iranian Regime,” their article called for putting the nuclear arms deal with Iran at risk in order to “stoke the volcano under Tehran and to challenge the regime.” The centerpiece of their bizarre argument was that the Iranian people would gratefully welcome the United States imposing “crippling sanctions” to destroy their economy in the name of “human rights.”
The authors were vague as to the details, but suggested that Iran’s ruling clerics would quickly succumb to a “popular rebellion” by “Iranian dissidents,” particularly if the United States sent “more American troops [to] both Syria and Iraq” to reinforce its message.
Gerecht, a died-in-the-wool neocon, was a former director of the Project for a New American Century’s Middle East Initiative. In 2001, he wrote, “Only a war against Saddam Hussein will decisively restore the awe that protects American interests abroad and citizens at home.”
In 2002, he further touted a U.S. invasion of Iraq as a way to “provoke riots in Iran — simultaneous uprisings in major cities that would simply be beyond the scope of regime-loyal specialized riot-control units.” Instead, the subsequent U.S. invasion backfired by putting a pro-Iran regime into power in Baghdad.
Iran in the Crosshairs
Today Gerecht is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a neocon think tank dedicated to waging war against “militant Islam,” with a focus on Iran. Heavily funded by gambling magnate Sheldon Adelson, the Foundation was originally created to promote the agenda of hardline Israeli hawks.
The Foundation fought bitterly against the Iran nuclear deal, lest it open the door to a rapprochement between Washington and Tehran. Gerecht in particular demanded that the United States attack Iran rather than pursue diplomacy. “I’ve written about 25,000 words about bombing Iran,” he boasted in 2010. “Even my mom thinks I’ve gone too far.”
Gerecht’s side-kick, Ray Tayekh, is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and was (briefly) an Iran adviser to Dennis Ross in Hillary Clinton’s State Department. A fierce critic of the nuclear deal, Tayekh joined the Iran Task Force of the right-wing Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, which considers itself “the most influential group on the issue of U.S.-Israel military relations.” Tayekh has advocated covert support to Iranian dissidents, as well as to “Kurdish, Baluch, Arab, and other opposition groups fighting the regime.”
Regime change in Iran is the open goal of Prime Minister Netanyahu and other Israeli rightists. That’s why they consistently rejected findings by Israel’s intelligence community about the benefits to Israel’s security from the nuclear deal with Iran. By stoking opposition to the deal among their supporters in Congress, they aimed to kill any chance of cooperation between the United States and Iran.
Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Arkansas, said candidly, “the goal of our policy must be clear: regime change in Iran.”
Today the hardline Israeli/neocon agenda is still being pursued by hawks in Congress, who have introduced bills in both houses to ratchet up economic sanctions against Iran and designate a major branch of the country’s armed forces as a terrorist organization. If enacted — against the wishes of other signatories to the Iran nuclear deal — such measures could put the United States and Iran on a war footing.
Trump’s Team of Hawks
President Trump is unlikely to stand in their way. Ignoring the role of major Arab states in supporting such terrorist groups as al-Qaeda and ISIS, Trump named Iran “the number one terrorist state” and warned during his campaign that if Iranian patrol boats in the Persian Gulf continue to “make gestures that our people — that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water.”
Trump has surrounded himself with anti-Iran hardliners who may be only too eager to give war a chance. His first national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, co-authored a 2016 book with Michael Ledeen, a confidant of Israeli hawks and colleague of Gerecht at the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, on “How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies.” Iran, of course, was their enemy number one.
Even with Flynn’s ouster, plenty of hawks remain. In recent congressional testimony, Army Gen. Joseph Votel, Commander of the U.S. Central Command, called Iran “the greatest long-term threat to stability” in the Middle East. He declared, “We need to look at opportunities where we can disrupt [Iran] through military means or other means their activities.”
Defense Secretary General James Mattis told a conference at the conservative Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington last year, “Iran is not a nation-state; it’s a revolutionary cause devoted to mayhem.” The New York Times reported that Mattis “was so hawkish on Iran as head of United States Central Command from 2010 to 2013 that the Obama administration cut short his tour.”
Mattis reportedly came close to ordering an act of war against Iran in early February — the boarding of an Iranian ship to look for weapons headed for Houthi rebels in Yemen. Such an incident could escalate rapidly out of control if Iran chose to retaliate against U.S. vessels in the Persian Gulf.
Alternatives to Conflict
The United States has better policy options than continuing to treat Iran as part of the Axis of Evil. A report issued last fall by the National Iranian American Council recommended that Washington build on the success of the Iran nuclear deal by drawing Iran into regional peace settlements, deescalating our military presence in the Persian Gulf, and encouraging Iran and Saudi Arabia to resolve their differences without superpower intervention.
The report echoed the advice of a prominent neocon heretic, Zalmay Khalilzad, former U.S. ambassador to both Afghanistan and Iraq.
“As someone who has negotiated with Iran over the years perhaps more than any other U.S. diplomat,” he observed last year, “I disagree with those who argue that talks with Iran are akin to capitulation. I have seen little evidence that isolation has or will alter Tehran’s behavior in the right direction. Nor do I share the view that it is impossible to negotiate win-win deals with the Iranians.”
Noting Iran’s cooperation with the United States against Al Qaeda after 9/11, and its help brokering political compromises in Afghanistan and Iraq until the Bush administration refused further engagement, Khalilzad wrote, “Under the right conditions, which must include a hard-headed approach and tough actions to check Iran’s ambitions, Washington can benefit from bringing Iran into multilateral forums where the United States and its partners have the opportunity to narrow differences, create rules of the road and solve problems. Moreover, today we have little choice but to engage Iran on these broader issues, because no factor is shaping the order of the Middle East as much as the rivalry between Iran and its Sunni Arab neighbors.”
“If we do not undertake this work,” he warned, “the problems of the region — extremism, terrorism and regional conflict — will continue to bleed over into our part of the world, particularly if the Westphalian state system disintegrates even further into sectarian morass.”
Jonathan Marshall is author of “Neocons Want ‘Regime Change’ in Iran,” and “Escalating the Anti-Iran Propaganda,” for ConsortiumNews.com.
Is it strange that “terrorists” keep killing anonymous innocent people when such obvious better targets are available? The cookies gone and the jar broken and we’re still buy the story from the 6 yr. old that “the dog did it.” “We know the names of these terrorist states…” – Ehud Barak – 9/11/01
just as soon as WWIII finally goes down; the neo-cons getting what they want, the Pentagon getting a nice juicy real “Big War’ [finally!], the Arms Industry getting what IT wants, the prospect of nice big juicy contracts into ad infinitum, ……. then some nukes just kind of, sort of, ………”GO OFF”.
atomic denotations decorating the landscapes all over the world. the Deep State all hunkered down in their super wonderful underground dwellings,
then the reports and very fewe photos and news clips come in showing devastation that NO one was able to envision,
Then and only then, “PEACE” will begin to “break out”.
the irony will be though, that resentments , which will last hundreds if not thousands of years, will settle in , most comfortably, and grew and fester for a good long time.
and Deep State punks will send out mouth pieces to what few small clusters of undead survivors, and they will say, “but we didn’t KNOW!! really!! we’re not lying!!! we just didn’t know!!”
and all stupid dreams of a small, slave population working for the “Castle People” and the Jews of course as well, will just lay down and die. they will give up.
and there will be NO ‘one half billion’ easily controlled slave population for the usual suspects to ‘play around with’.
and automatic machinery will just be a bad joke. no consumers, no ‘workers’ to Lord it Over. nothing. nobody, [to speak of effectively]. just lots of that strange green glass, stretching for hundreds and hundreds of miles in every which way direction.
then and only then there will FINALLY be “peace”. the peace of plagues. the peace of massive radioactive caused mass deaths. the peace of a very screwed up upper atmosphere [think no radio broadcasts nor any GPS functioning ‘birds in the sky’].
and what is left will scrabble hard jsut to live another wretched day. I believe the Human Genome absolutely needs this massive die off event to happen. it is in our genes. most especially in the inbred genes of the “ELITE” and their Deep State minions. aka “Useless Idiots”.
ain’t no postponing this event. so it might as well proceed immediately if not sooner. get the mass destruction part done with. so those who would precipitate this get their money’s worth, their thirsts slaked. so they can bath in the blood of the billions.
that’s all. hardly comment in the internet any more. it is filled with idiots that actually think that opinions mean something. that politics aren’t completely fixed. and that banks are good for one’s health.
where did you get the idea that trump needed to be housebroken?? did you not pay attention to his blather during the run up to his potus win??the iran deal is the worst deal ever made.;israel will not be a second class nation.when i’m potus; he stated his position quite clearly .no need to be housebroken.
A “died-in-the-wool” conservative? Who died? No one died. It’s “dyed-in-the-wool.”
Russia, China and Iran should sign a mutual defence pact.
Why does a good reporter/analyst like Marshall use mass media terminology like “regime change” when referring to a change in government leadership in Syria? He’d never refer to a change in government leadership in the U.S. as regime change.
Why is Assad’s a regime but not Bush or Obama or Trump’s?
Now that we all know that Trump is an ignorant man who cannot read and has a disturbing lust for power of any and all sorts, we can certainly understand why he has done a 180 on his stance on Russia, ordered the continuation of the ‘regime change’ war in Syria, making the Clinton gang look like angels, it is not shocking to learn that he will order another invasion (against international law.)..against Iran..which has been in the 7 country regime change playbook from the get go…If only those defenseless countries hadn’t/didn’t have oil! And if only Libya hadn’t wanted to veer away from US/IMF Dollar by having enough gold stocked to have its own currency for itself and most of Africa, the world would be a peaceful place, but with the US having an all consuming desire to “have what they have”, there will be perpetual wars…The hope is that Russia and China come up to bat for the duration of the war in Syria and do what they have to do to protect Iran. Russia has most of the military equipment and personnel that they will need nearby so it should be a given that they do an assist. The original Star War movies were a preview of what was to come…The Evil Empire as the US and Darth Vader as the US leadership….but Darth Vader was beaten as will be the US and its ‘friends’….empires are only designed to last 200 years and this one’s time is up.
Iran would be wise to update and modernize its military just as Russia and China have because so long as the US maintains its policy of regime change, Iran is a target.
I believe they have been. They have also changed their military doctrine to make any attack on Iran as costly/bloody as possible. The US could never occupy Iran even with full mobilisation and conscription. Once the latter is put in place the sheeple might wake up.
“Kristol co-founded the infamous Project on the New American Century in 1997 to promote American “global hegemony” and “challenge regimes hostile to our interests and values.””
Uh, no. It was ‘founded’ to promote the US wars against the enemies of Israel.
Regime change most necessary in US. What hypocrites, protesting this weekend because Trump didn’t release his tax returns! They don’t care about the millions killed by continuing illegal wars!
Regime change in Iran, to what new regime?
There is no possible new regime that would not protect the interests of Iran, and Shiites more generally. There is no regime change that can satisfy the Gulf’s Sunni Arabs. They saw the Shah as a threat to them too.
There is no possible new regime that would accept what Israel is doing to all Muslims within its power. If somehow the antagonism lessened between Iran and the other Gulf Arabs, it would just unite against Israel.
There is no possible new regime that would go along with American desires to side with the other Gulf Arabs and Israel in all things.
Perhaps Iran could be wrecked as completely as was Iraq and Syria and Libya. But that is not regime change, that is destruction of a nation of 80 million people, genocide in practice since so many would necessarily die in the process.
It is time for regime change in the British colony a.k.a. US of A.
Fergus, it’s the US that needs regime change! The CIA already messed with them in 1953 overthrowing democratically elected Mossadegh. The CIA is a criminal organization and has contributed much to inhumanity in the world. We also have to get out front and talk about this neocon problem with family and friends who don’t understand. A movement has got to be birthed for humanity.
Aaron Russo-Freedom To Fascism-Movie Documentary,exposed with facts and evidence documented the rotten house America is build on.The Fed and IRS are unconstitutional.There is no tax on labor legal.
Also it is documented who the monopoly owners of FED are.
Act 1871-U.S. Corporation-American Constitution Null and Void
1933 Banking Act-USA insolvent and Federal Government dissolved.International Bankers own America for debt owed.
The agencies of past USA government are private corporations in USA today.
The U.S. Constitution in force is a fraud and is not binding.
James Madison-A-1 S-5-C-8- American organic Constitution- Null and Void-Ralph Epperson.com.
Military Martial Law in effect since 1865-1913-1933-US congress approved and in effect today by signing approval every year.
District of Columbia owned by Queen of England.
Ralph Epperson Catalog .com-Book Hidden Hand- all wars since 1898 and before are acts of conspiracy.Facts support this proposition.
The Committee of 300-John Coleman-1/10 You Tube-Books reveals who really is in control.
1/7 Syndrome of Control-Lindsey Williams exposes the truth about Iran and USA involvement.You Tube and books.
George Green-How They Plan To kill Us-You Tube-Internet.
Leo Zagami in the 2012 Armageddon-You Tube exposed in metaphor the real chain of command and possible alien connection.You must listen carefully to what he says .England,Scotland to Israel is path.
Donald Trump is surrounded by Neo Cons and is daughter and family are deeply connected with Neo Cons.He supports Israel.Business connection are connected with Zionist jews and also Neo Con gentiles.
Israel citizens receive indirectly 30,000 a year from the U.S. Tax Payers for what.
Why is duel citizenship allowed involving Israel and why are they allowed in highest positions in American government.Why are they forth in the world in nuclear weapons,and have refused to sign treaty of inspection for said nukes.Who sponsored them.American government does now.Why are they not bound by international law.They are a racist nation which they don’t deny.
Rothschild,Rockefeller,etc owned the FED with the bloodlines.40 billionaires in America rule America,but do not have real control as this is in control of Queen of England and the Vatican with the central banks,corporate and military,Intelligence Agencies,NGOs,Education,cities,counties, states through their puppets.Agenda 21-30 in USA is NWO and UN is, and they are against the American Organic Constitution and they are the enemy of our freedom.They are supported by many in our government.This is proven by actions of our government against the American people in violating the Bill of Rights daily.The Enemy is within.
The apex of power is probably one meaning the conflicts are phony and created illusion which is real to those effected by bombing,etc.
China has been created by the west to destroy the west.China would not be in position it is today without American Industry and other resources be shipped to China,India,Russia,etc..The import back into USA undercutting USA labor.Import of skilled and professional labor also to destroy America.
The USA government encourage these industries to leave America profit incentive.With cheap labor and American resources they have been destroying the west as is the case today.
China investment in America now are a threat to the security of America.Why is this being allowed now in the present.They are buying up America now..
The motive which is obvious is that the fascist communist collective of America decided to destroy the west for China,etc-which they are doing now and have been.Antony Sutton,,Majors Diary,Christopher Story-E U Corruption 1/3–EU Collective- All You Tube and In Books–.Eustice Mullins-NWO,FED,etc-You Tube Internet,Books.References.All is exposed.The brainwashed can’t see it.
The conditioning of the American people to be perverts with no knowledge of their history,nationalism,culture,or racial identification plus all will take showers together in public,and some advocate sex with babies,and young children,and with same blood in family with this advocated in some USA Public Schools.How can any one in their right mind accept this ideology which is brainwashing and not logical.Why is it tolerated.It is your children being abused with your consent if you don’t protest.This is method of communist brainwashing.
Norman Dodd — Charolette Iserbith -Dumbing Down of Education-You Tube.
Norman Dodd_- New World Agenda-51 minutes You Tube exposed the International Bankers and the Charitable Foundations who would change American History and control State Dept.They would control the world with a Communist,Fascist capitalist collective.Public Private Partnership-Joan Veon,Agenda 21-30 for example.
Sargent Major Dan Page exposed the intent of Martial Law and invasion of China,Russia,Iran,and Latin America into USA.as serious possibility unless stopped.
This is the plan of the enemy within to take America down.They will weaken the military by supporting amoral behavior.They will condition the sheep to military and police control.
At the same time they will pretend to be trying to protect America,but nothing indicates they are.Continuous terrorist attacks to create fear.
Alpert Pikes 3 World Wars-You Tube Internet exposes the strategy being used as we see the refugees and immigrants overrun the west.This is caused by illegal wars world wide.Leo Zagami stated who the ruler would be if plan works.
Even if one says this is not possible they should realize that the UN wants to rule the world and America..
Trump has changed is tune which is now Neo Con old school NWO as usual maybe,hope not,but a rat is not a dog,and if it looks like a Turkey it probably is.Bipolar World-Putin if real made the NWO half in the west as putin is out of NWO if true.Maybe your being fooled..
George Green-How They Plan To Kill Us—You Tube.
The Path To American Dictatorship- Americas Government And It Silent Coup-You Tube-By John White-Constitutional Lawyer—Is The U.S. Military Planning To Take Over– America—ruthertherford.org by John White.
Please research all information for facts.This information can be totally incorrect.Opinions and hearsay and I think so is not fact period.
References–Jordon Maxwell-Karen Hudes,Norman Dodd,JFK Secret Society Speech Complete—You Tube—Eisenhower—Military Industrial Complex-Speech—Benjamin Freedman Speech—-W1,W11,W111-You Tube-..Sgt.Maj. Dan Page-You Tube,Internet—Aaron Russo Interview David Rockefeller-You Tube and Freedom To Fascism—9/11 In Plane Site-A Power Hour Production-You Tube-DVD.Ring of Power 1/13—You Tube
George Green -How They Plan To Kill Us-You Tube.
Please keep in mind that all references may be a lie.The Lie May Be The Truth—Love Is Hate.
Walter Haas—God Bless America
…and people wonder why the term “conspiracy theorist” is such an effective pejorative to discredit anyone who doubts the “official narrative”. Charlotte Iserbyte is a rambling, incoherent lunatic. Karen Hudes is almost as bad. If Susan Lindauer could have stopped rolling her eyes while trying to keep her story straight, even the people who wanted to believe her might have listened. And, when you refer to “alien control”, do you mean Guatemalans and Mexicans…or the Klingon Intergalactic Federation of Reptilian Space Troopers?
Sure, the “official narratives” make no sense, and the “Creature from Jekyll Island” was definitely a corrupt contrivance by financial vampires to hoodwink American citizens. The problem is, stuff like this is actually welcomed by the “power elite”. As long as people are trying to blame things that don’t make sense on “directed energy weapons”, the “illuminati” and “space aliens”, the people behind the proverbial curtain are perfectly safe.
There’s this once-cherished institution in the United States that actually could unravel the whole scam. It’s called a “court of law”. The trick is to get some of the little rats in front of a Grand Jury or a Congressional Hearing, and under penalty of perjury, offer them limited immunity for exposing the bigger rats. The whole thing would slowly but surely fall apart. The “national security” excuse cannot be legally invoked for the purpose of “obstruction of justice”, “suborning perjury” or “misprision of felony”. Yet, we routinely hear politicians, bureaucrats, military leaders and cabinet officials use the excuse: “I can’t discuss that in open session”. Does no one ever suspect that they have something to hide?
A really, REALLY easy place to start would be those eighty five or so confiscated video surveillance films of whatever hit the Pentagon. Come on, folks, if it really was a Boeing 757, why should any HONEST politician object? My guess is, those videos have been destroyed. But here again, that’s “obstruction of justice”. Who gave the order to do it, and why? The same is true of the “torture videos”. Why wasn’t Jose “Big Boy Pants” Rodriguez dragged in front of a Grand Jury? Is it because this is the “land of the free and the home of the brave”? I think not.
” There’s this once-cherished institution in the United States that actually could unravel the whole scam. It’s called a “court of law” ”
The reason it’s ” once-cherished ” is because it’s stopped working. The Judicial Branch has the same breed of psychopaths in top positions as the other two branches. Everyone at the top is on the same team , and they adhere to Article 5 principles – an attack on one is an attack on all.
If tens of millions of people hit the streets about a particular atrocity by the gov’t on the people , then a couple elites might become sacrificial lambs and serve a few years in some country club re-purposed as a prison. After this bit of judicial theater proves that we are truly a nation of laws , we’re back to business as usual.
Tear it down. Tear it all down.
Yes, Marko, the US judiciary is utterly corrupt, state and federal, and those who still look to it for reform need to do more reading. It is more corrupt toward the top, but the lowest levels are entirely corrupt, utterly opposed to the Constitution and serving only the paymasters of oligarchy.
The once-cherished institution is no more, like all US institutions, and must not be cherished but destroyed and replaced from the ground up, as Jefferson advised.
Neocons and Clintonities have had always same goal but different methods. I just wonder how many Americans know that Iranian society itself is very far from that of Afghanistan or even Pakistan. This might surprise many: fertility rate is lower than Sweden,USA and France have. It looks like the more Muslim country is taking these vital steps to stabilize and modernize its society the more Pentagon and neocon/neolib pro Israel lobby hate it. USA really loves Jihad.
The neocons are in their origin Zionist Jews.
These Jews conflate US and Israeli interests (and values) and essentially are ginning up wars, fought and paid for by American goyim, that are FOR ISRAEL’S EXPANSIONARY BENEFIT.
I am sick and tired of articles on ‘neocons’ listing Jewish name acter Jewish name, with no outright discussion of neocons’ essential Israeli Nationalism arising out of the Jewishness of the Israel-centric warmongers.
Do we *really* have to avoid saying what is simply true?
Damn that cowardice.
Bill Kristol is a Jewish Israel Firster who wants the US to regime change Iran for Israel.
The Jewish Zionist ‘neocons’ are simply proxy Zionists – they want non jews dying. Kristol should have been tried and imprisoned for his role… the fact he is on TV a d taken seriously at all IS BECAUSE HIS JEWISHNESS INSULATES HIM FROM CRITICISM – criticism that would mainly be that he is primarily loyal to the Jewish state.
Read decades of Jewish Zionist warmongers on Syria/Iraq: http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=western_support_for_islamic_militancy_2049
Then consider that ‘ISIS’ is an Anglo-Zionist golem.
North Korea is evacuating Pyongyang. At least 600,000 people have been evacuated. Obviously they expect a preemptive strike to soon follow. China has warned North Korea that war is about to happen. That is no doubt the reason for the evacuation. What would be the risk of the USA launching a preemptive strike on North Korea? Probably nothing if Xi has approved of it. It all depends on what president Xi and Trump discussed over cake at Mar A Lago while cruise missiles were being launched at Syria. If the Chinese sanctioned an attack on North Korea then what is playing out now is fully explainable. A conventional weapons attack on North Korea is warranted only if China has signed of on the deal and they just might have. They have been frustrated by Pyongyang and the recent developments with North Korea’s Nuclear program and they might see themselves as a Russia like power to deal with Pyongyang just as the Russians have dealt with Syria after a conventional strike to bring down the North Koreans. I have never understood the Chinese support for North Korea given the hardy economic relations with America. Supporting an anti American minor nation with extremist views that they are still fighting the Korean War seems counterproductive if economic ties with the west are more important than ethnic ties with a rogue nation which is perpetually threatening China’s major trading partner with extermination and thermonuclear annihilation.
America bombs North Korea in a preemptive strike taking out the leadership.
China annexes North Korea and gains a major land grab and eliminates a threat to themselves as well as many other nations.
China declares victory against western powers and defends the land they take from North Korea.
China then establishes a new protectorate like Russia in Syria with grave warnings that further US aggression will be dealt with by Chinese military force.
The USA backs away from a confrontation with their major trading partner and South Korea now faces a new Chinese adversary with the United States vowing to protect South Korea with the Chinese defending North Korea.
The result is that the major superpowers are now in control of the fate of Syria and North Korea on two fronts.
Front one is China pitted against the USA in North Korea and front two is Russia pitted against the USA in Syria,
It is unlikely that Russia will join China and there will be a new stalemate between the three major superpowers Russia, China and the USA. USA defends Israel, Russia defends Syria and China defends North Korea
An arms buildup will follow as the three main players prepare for war with each other.
The arms dealers will win big time in each country as they prepare for assault from the others.
This sets up a confrontation between the powers with the real nuclear arsenals and sets up a new MAD scenario which results in a lasting peace based on MAD.
Iran is the wild card. Nobody wants to defend Iran except the Russians. Then Putin will hold the key on whether or not to back Iran or let them fend for themselves.
The Persians might be the pin on the grenade for WWIII depending on what the USA does next.
It all depends on the Chinese at this point. We do not know what deal Trump struck with Xi at Mar A Lago. He most certainly did not object to the launching of missiles at Syria. What is in it for Xi?
Obviously I have no insight into what’s going on with the Korean peninsula, but I suspect China would take over North Korea only if it has no choice. If there is an invasion from the South as in the Korean War, I believe they’ll react in the same way – to prevent the creation of a unified Korea and a US puppet state right on the border.
If the North Korean reactors become targets, the contamination would be dreadful, and depending on the winds, vast areas of China, Japan, or South Korea could become contaminated. Ditto for the South Korean reactors.
CitizenOne, your theory sounds like the Great Game fantasies of the neocons. The picture it paints is of manageable chaos. The problem is that chaos refuses to fit itself to our scenarios. This script is similar to what many expect of global climate disruption; they think it will follow a predictable, logical course. For those familiar with chaos theory, this is an unlikely hope. Chaos theory is an elaboration of the uncertainty principle, not a guarantee of predictable, controllable sequences.
As complexity increases in a system, the chances of a sudden unexpected shift or breakdown increases. The human created situation on Earth today is one of the most complex that we can imagine; it is correspondingly unstable. The famous butterfly effect (sensitive dependence on initial conditions) can manifest now triggering tipping points that will take us into new and dangerous territory literally overnight.
If there were ever a more clear example of this situation it is the real possibility of all-out nuclear war. The nuclear powers on Earth are in a classic Mexican standoff at this very moment. These deadly arsenals are aimed at each other on hair trigger very short readiness to be launched times. There are no really effective defenses against these weapons once launched – to believe so is a dangerous illusion. Once one of the Mexican standoff participants pulls the trigger, all hell will break loose, and our specie’s time on Earth will become very short from there.
It is the most dangerous delusion of the neocons that they can indulge in escalating threats and even actually initiate limited nuclear war, or even engage in a massive preemptive strike against all their nuclear opponents, and somehow survive and control the aftermath of such a huge fatal mistake.
The path to peaceful resolution of the nuclear standoff may seem difficult, at times impossible, but the alternative has been properly named MADNESS.
here is another very uncomfortable story from NEO, that the chemical “incident” may very well be a part of…
If the neocons attacked Iran they would likely bungle the job and create an even worse problem, as happened in Iraq. So I am skeptical of their plots against Iran.
However the core notion of regime change in Iran is actually not a bad idea at all. Iran’s political system reinforces privilege of Persians versus ethnic minorities, and of cleical fat cats versus the great unwashed, wages undercover military campaigns in neighboring countries, has repeatedly threatened to annihilate Israel, is allied with Hizballah, which has a genocidal program to annihilate Jews and smuggles drugs transcontinentally.
Poor little Israel, all those fearsome enemies and only a bunch of nukes and Uncle Sam’s measly military to protect it. Well at least a few people like Fergus will come to her defense.
New York Times, 31 May, 1936, Page 14
AMERICAN APPEAL FOR JEWISH REFUGE
“The petition, in expressing the opinion of Christian leadership of the United States, favouring larger Jewish immigration into Palestine, stressed the intolerable suffering of the millions of Jews in the “European Holocaust”.
“Great Britain has it within her powers to throw open the gates of Palestine and let in the victimised and persecuted Jews escaping from the European Holocaust.”
New York Times, 31 May, 1936, Page 14
AMERICAN APPEAL FOR JEWISH REFUGE
“The petition, in expressing the opinion of Christian leadership of the United States, favouring larger Jewish immigration into Palestine, stressed the intolerable suffering of the millions of Jews in the “European Holocaust”.
“Great Britain has it within her powers to throw open the gates of Palestine and let in the victimised and persecuted Jews escaping from the European Holocaust.”
Yes, we need an Iran regime more willing to take out fascist Israel for the good of America.
Question: What Middle Eastern country has the largest jewish population other than Israel?
Has anyone heard of the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan? I hadn’t until I encountered reference to it in a couple of comments on websites. I looked it up, put it back of my mind, did more reading today. Named after an Austro-Japanese count elitist who wrote a book in 1923 “Pan-Europa” and proposed future world race mixing, which also gave birth to the EU. He got support funding by Rothschilds and Warburg. Sounds like it doesn’t fit on this topic, but I recommend reading on the Count and his miscegenation theory. Very intriguing and fits into speculation on strange events of today. World events have gotten alarming because of weapons, religions, world powers, and conflict over resources. The refugee crisis is mixed up in this. It is a pity Trump is so poorly limited in understanding of geopolitics. He is “only a pawn in their game”.
There is no doubt the war criminals have an agenda. I believe Nuclear War will be the “fallout,” (no pun intended) of these conniving crackpots.
I just posted the following in response to Abe in the Al Qaeda fooled us again thread from yesterday based on his reference to a NEO essay dated April 15 on how Russia was the actual target of the Tomahawk missile program.
I would like to post my comment again here in an effort to build perspective on what’s happening. The NEO essay is titled “Russia was the actual target of America’s strikes in Syria,” by Salman Rafi Sheik.
Another aspect Salman Rafi Sheikh emphasizes, as related to Russia as target, is US determination to not allow Russia to win and aid in restoring Syria. This was one of the “messages” being sent recently, the other to China at Mar a Lago. The Big Boy needed to make a few things absolutely clear on who is in charge of world affairs.
After the election, progress was noticeable in crucial areas at Aleppo and around, with falling effectiveness of the militants, their support money stopped for the moment. In what has been going on recently, we have a combining of several objectives for the Big Boy Messaging Scheme under the guise of cooperation including the “de-conflicting” policy.
The “safe zones” was euphemism for autonomous regions, in which Syria is broken up and “Balkanized” with the US establishing a massive presence in East Syria. This includes a new base in North East Syria which I’ve seen mentioned only once. Troop movements have been continuing, with the latest a request by McMaster for 50,000 troops. I’ve also read 150,000 troops.
It had occurred to me that the “Assad can stay” moment, brief as it was, was due to the idea that if broken up into several autonomous (and of course warring) states it wouldn’t matter if Assad was still the titular leader. But possibly this position was far too pusillanimous for proper hard ball in neocon American politics.
Autonomous zones would push back against Russian-Syrian strength in restoring the region and allowing rebuilding and return of the refugees and replace it with a new state of collapse. This is the current strategy, in order to pick up with the previous strategy all these years going back to regime change of X number of countries in the region.
That Friedman can talk openly of how we oughtta let them militants fight for us also suggests how serious Trump’s idea in going after ISIS has become in the follow-up stages of his fraternity initiation into being Commander in Chief.
The de-conflict hot line also allowed US knowledge of a forthcoming strike on a warehouse, which then turned into the chemical incident. This exploitation of the de-conflict agreement is surely why the Russians have canceled it for the time being, contingent on the US not repeating air base style attacks. Meanwhile, Putin has warned that his intelligence forces have knowledge of new false flags in the planning stage, including in Damascus.
The troop build up, the chemical incident, the Tomahawk firing, the MOAB follow-up have apparently been coordinated to a new look for Trump as a Russophobe and true patriot after all. This has resounded with MSM flag waving and feeling good at the moment, although the numbers on Public Approval are not overwhelming, at 51% in favor of Trump’s trigger finger and 40% opposed. He has lost massively in his base as part of this development toward growing a pair and proving himself.
So it would seem that in line with Salman Rafi Sheik’s points, Trump is now in a heady testosterone-filled moment which includes a finger wagging self-righteousness aimed at North Korea which must stop its trouble-making ways and listen to the Guardian of the Planet Donald Trump. This is also part of warning and blustering and pushing Russia back, as with Tillerson’s unfortunately boy scout presentation telling Lavrov and Putin recently to give up supporting Syria and hand back Crimea to Kiev.
These actions on the world stage by Trump and his slack-jawed lieutenants tell us we have incompetents with massive egos that they’re stroking along the lines of “Listen up, everybody, we DO know what we’re doing” and “We’re in charge of the globe, as usual, nothing new in that, so y’all better get with the program we’re announcing.”
This kind of foolhardy behavior is similar to that of the schoolyard bully thinking he can kick anybody he feels like in the vital areas and he’ll be allowed to do it. These types are usually compensating for their pathetic little-boy neurosis and sneaking suspicions about their inadequacy. This sort of behavior will not hold up, and at some point REALITY will strike home and the push back will be clear.
Meanwhile, at home here we are in increasing danger of blowback from whatever forces have lately been enraged by our behavior and performance, as the latest world power to have a hard on for its own self-image, determined to portray to the world how masculine and God-like it is.
Excellent analysis D5-5. You are one of my best teachers about these current deadly affairs.
The blowback from foreign victims is really the last hope of restoration of democracy, as the US mass media and elections are controlled by totalitarian racketeers. So Rome was destroyed, and destruction of US power is likely a prerequisite to its reform. Another path is destruction of its mass media and politicians including judges and duopoly political operatives, state and federal. Until you see the mass media facilities being blown up and politicians being killed, be thankful for foreign military opposition on a large scale, the best allies of democracy restoration in the US.
Marshall’s article and all the comments are essential reading and extremely informative. The USA seems to have no inkling of national sovereignty, international law, negotiations, attempting to understand points of view of anyone other than its own, and assumes that any action all around the globe is waiting for the magic hand of the USA to interfere (sorry,help it to do the right thing, as defined by the PTB in the USA at the time).
In addition to the two hyperlinked articles by Marshall, see also another of his Consortium News pieces entitled “US Arms Makers Invest in a New Cold War,” and read the articles that Marshall hyperlinks in it.
A short essay on how a man became totally fed up with the human race, yet continues to be an activist is here:
A beautiful short essay on how a man became totally fed up with the human race, yet continues to be an activist is here:
Thanks , it was a worthwhile read.
How do you reawaken a brainwashed population? Reeducation is the key. First you have to help them let go of the garbage ideas in their minds. Meditation and other more active techniques have existed for a long time to accomplish that. Then you fill those (relatively emptied) minds with some truths and realities that were blocked by all the propaganda junk they had bought into. Then those people are prepared to go forth and act on these new ideas and understandings to create a better world. Only new better people can create a new better world.
How to structure this transformative reeducation? The small leaderless groups I have spoken of, that I belong to, that are there to help anyone interested to begin down this path….
Remember, it’s hard to get promoted in peace time so don’t expect to find many garrison commandos in the way at the Pentagon. Where is Smedley Butler when we need him? And by the way, is Kristol reading from the same script he wrote for the Iraqi invasion “they will be waiting with open arms for liberation”? I’m sure there are one or two Chalabi’s waiting in the wings. It’s too bad the “Nationalists” didn’t see Trump for what he really is, totally lacking of any moral character or courage.
So many statements with so much sense but also indicating how helpless people feel to stop the monster. We got Trump because voters didn’t want Hillary, and Trump obviously was such a rich, weak no-nothing that the neocons took him over. At what point in the plan we would be with Hillary, I wouldn’t know, but I think there is a plan that has been progressing all along, a geopolitical strategy implemented by war, and that it actually got helped along by the mad Democrats with their version of insanity about Russia. Hillary was set to go right to some version of the plan, and she loves military men and might. Trump was just so ego-driven and weak he could not resist the neocons and their generals. These are truly evil people, Zionist or otherwise, and people like Tom Cotton are perfect to help implement their game. Mattis’ statement about Iran and revolutionary mayhem applies to himself and the US. Iran is right, the United States is the Great Satan!
There are antiwar protests in Boston and the Twin Cities this weekend, and I hope more are coming than I saw on Internet, which is so controlled in this era of Big Brother.
There is a plan and it has been around for twenty years. It’s all in Project For A New American Century.
First take out Iraq.
Then Libya and Syria.
The last goal in the greater Middle East was Iraq.
But the final goal after that was to take out the real rival for the 21st Century- China.
Of course they thought at the time that they’d already reduced Russia to a weak, poor vassal of the American Elite with the drunk Yeltsen running things for them. So now Russia probably comes before China (The Pivot to Asia), unless in their hubris they think that they can take out both at once.
Reads: “The last goal in the greater Middle East was Iraq.”
Should read: “The last goal in the greater Middle East was Iran.”
How to stop this madness in its tracks? It IS both do-able and readily at hand.
First, remember that absolutely none of those named, above, and none of their toadying minions actually does anything, themselves. Oh, for sure they all meet and talk, gesticulate and utter words they like to call “commands”. They even scream, scowl, stride about with purpose and pummel the furniture like out-of-control toddlers demanding their way. But…
…except that those of us who actually push the necessary buttons, fly the fighters, drive the vehicles, press the triggers, etc., – except that we choose to turn their orders into our actions, then all of their scheming and posturing will be completely neutralized, resulting in nothing more than gaggles of red-faced soreheads.
Those of us who in action-taking positions need simply ignore such orders, for they would be outright abominations, something that not all of mankind’s overrated law books and statutes, combined, can wash clean, let alone excuse.
Those of us in positions to persuade the action-takers among our circles of family and acquaintance to see the barbaric folly of allowing their conditioning to overrule their humanity, we should begin doing so in earnest.
We are not bound to realize the warmongers’ mad visions for them; and they are powerless to do so if we simply tell them no.
Slice it anyway you like, it’s really as simple as this. And we ignore that beautiful, saving simplicity to our collective shame, imperiling inexcusably all those we profess to love and want to protect.
Thus, the great news is that – all conditioning and propaganda to the contrary – our fate is in our hands, NOT theirs.
So let’s begin by dropping the talk that assumes they’re in charge. Just stop it; and speak, instead, that compresses them into their rightful role as our servants.
Off to that sensible start, the rest will follow clearly enough; and the future will finally be ours , exactly as it should have been, always.
I was drafted to join the Korean war. I refused. It wasn’t easy. The war establishment doesn’t make it easy to resist. They make it seem easy to just go along to get along. That’s good enough for many Americans. We would have to find a way to strengthen moral backbones if we expect people to resist government pressure. Resistance begins in the minds and hearts of resisters. That’s where the struggle for a better world begins.
The actions that constrained you were undertaken by people other than those who ordered them. Those action-takers, had they refused their orders because they were in furtherance of an abomination, would have made mincemeat of the behavioural matrix you have correctly identified, the one that wrongly prevailed.
That break-free, take-charge, self-respecting thinking is what we need to promote among us, the many, the actual doers of all that gets done.
Right now, our problem is that we’re conditioned to believe it cannot be that simple when, in fact, it is.
A huge, immersive, ingenious and generations-deep effort has been invested in that conditioning; so there’s a tremendous amount of carefully crafted inertia that will have to be overcome. But, seeing as how it’s just a trick of the mind, the actual work involved is only as difficult – or as easy – as we deem it to be.
I agree. The problem is we elect these bastards. The president doesn’t need millions of people to tell him to not go to war. He cannot be compelled to abide by anyone’s wishes. Not even the wishes of tens of millions of us in America. Not even the wishes of the World. But this one obviously can be swayed. He has gone from the guy who hated the media and loved the Russians to the guy who hates the Russians and loves the media. The media did this to him. Our US media did this to Mr. Trump. They have the ultimate power over all of us. There are simply too few folks who see it for what it is and gagillions of other folks with eyes glued to the boob tube believe every single word that comes across as news.
Ultimately, it is not really about the media either. It is about wealth and power and the consolidation of that wealth and power into the hands of a few which corrupts the government and dis-serves all of humanity and wages wars and brings death and suffering to millions.
We have been on a long journey into that very bad place. The mile markers are ticking off one by one. Exxon Mobile is preparing a siege mentality developing plans for how to ward off protestors who might attempt to harm assets. Companies are hiring their own security forces. Section 238 money is flowing from DHS to round up and detain aliens.
Detention centers are being planned. No more playing nice with the Mexicans. Next it will be Muslims. Already tried twice to ban millions of folks from countries that were deemed to be Muslim countries. Sessions calls them filth. No, really, he said that.
What else could we do with a police state capable of rounding up millions of folks and deporting them? Hmm let me think………
I know! we could round up all the liberals and put them in concentration camps!! Then the Republicans and Trump would not be fearful that some liberal might do something like pointing out the hypocrisy of trying to kill Obamacare while they all get healthcare for free. Or ask about his taxes or make fun of him or offend his children’s sensibilities. We have nepotism in the White House. Trump has violated every norm and so have the Republicans. They are on a roll. Now they are going to eliminate the filibuster too. Why not just dissolve government and declare martial law?
This is not America. This must not be allowed to happen. Until the media starts to let some truth slip out, we will continue to go down the road to failure. The media is the problem.
” The problem is we elect these bastards.”
Not really. Leonard Cohen may be proven right when he sang ” Democracy is coming , to the U.S.A. ” , but he’s not right yet. Far from it.
Exactly, they are elected because money controls mass media and elections, the very tools of democracy needed for reform. When we see attacks upon the mass media facilities and people, the process of restoration of democracy will have begun, and not before. Mass media must be eliminated by all means, along with politicians corrupted by money, which means nearly all present politicians including judges. There is no peaceful way.
Send some of our more reasonable diplomats and congresspeople to Iran (but don’t send Trump!) and let them be overwhelmed by the beauty and diversity of Persian culture, food, and irreplaceable ancient historic sites and maybe they could then persuade DT not to do anything rash. Iran has never invaded another country. For the U.S to invade or bomb Iran would be a disaster on many levels.
That iodiotic, crazy big mouth Trump is going to push all of us toward The Third World War. It is urgent than the decent american people start the Empeachment proceedings…
It is not Trump. It is the zionists who have taken over the US and western Europe including 98% of the media worldwide. They are the ones taking the world to the brink of nuclear war.
Get rid of Trump and it happens faster. Wake up. Pence and the GOP clowns in Congress are more rabid than Trump. It is they and the Clintonistas war mongers who are manipulating Trump into this aggression.
I get so sick of people thinking Trump is the problem and things would be better without him. He is not the problem. The US establishment is the problem and the reality is that no matter how horrid Trump is on domestic issues, anybody else who ran against him in the GOP (except Paul) and HRC would all have us far more into Syria now and probably troops in Ukraine and massing on the border of Iran.
Miranda Keene, I just wanted to jump in at this point to support your frustration. I have been thinking the same thing for some time now. Thanks for the comment.
Hitler was considered to be okay by the Brits, Canadians, Americans et all until he started frightening even his friends. Trump should take a first ever look for himself at how after Hitler scared the pants off the world , the world took him and his country out. Oh and at the time Hitler had an unparraleled military just as the US does today. 50 million people had to die but he was defeated.The US can suffer germany´s fate if it keeps attacking acountires around the world..
Trump does indeed seem to have undergone some kind of “conversion”, but darned if I know what was the cause. The internet is chock full of rumors, half-truths, and direct lies, so sorting them all out isn’t an easy task. Consider this headline at the daily kos site:
“Twitter Rumor: German and British Intel caught Trump kids on tape committing criminal acts”
At least somebody had the decency to use the term “rumor”. But given that Trump’s kids are rich spoiled jerks, it sure is a plausible one.
The Trump attacks are going to have consequences, and they’re not always going to be good ones for the US. There is a new story at Google News titled
“Syria’s Coastal Missile Systems on Alert to Respond to US Strikes”
The Syrians have several dozen supersonic sea-skimming missiles, and now any US warship within range of those missiles is liable to be attacked. Given that the US has troops on Syrian soil, and is constantly bombing the country, who can blame them? The latest illegal attack by the 59 cruise missiles launched by the US Navy seems to have been the breaking point.
If the Trumpies launch a single attack against Iran, is not that nation fully justified to retaliate as it sees fit? And Iran is far better armed than Syria.
If Trump is truly joining the ranks of Bush the Dumber and Obama, he’s not only going to bring shame to the US but also disaster to numerous nations. Consider this story I found at the xymphora site:
“Migrants are being sold at open slave markets in Libya”
Anybody who writes about Trump being an unmitigated disaster is fully justified in doing so. But always keep in mind that he is building on the wonderful legacy of Obama and Hillary, the architects of Libya and Syria. Obama is also the one who handed the Drones and all the rest to Trump. Killing American Citizens and their children just because a power-hungry POTUS chooses to do it ought to be cause for impeachment and a murder trial instead of applause from the neocon papers like the NTY and the Bezos Washington Post.
Iran is spending a lot of money it can’t afford fighting ISIS. The only reward it gets is a series of unending threats by P.O.S. types like William Kristol, Reuel Gerecht, Ray Takeyh, and Senator Tom Cotton.
Well said Zachary Smith. I give Trump an C- for resisting the Neocons. Trump would truly have to be very brave to resist the Neocons. After all you are talking about men who think nothing of waging war. I can here the violin music playing in the background as they spelled out what would happen if he didn’t go along with their plans.
Speaking of plans, I found some notable quotes from the Neocon playbook Cheney wrote.
Rebuilding America’s Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources for a New Century, a crazy plan by Dick Cheney and Darth Insidious
Mr. Cheney lamented that:
Further, the process of transformation,
even if it brings revolutionary change, is
likely to be a long one, absent some
catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a
new Pearl Harbor.
Then we had 9/11 and all the lies that we gobbled up from the wannabie leader of Chalabi which led to Iraq
Mr Cheney also said
Iraq, Iran, Libya and Syria – “already have
or are developing ballistic missiles” that
could threaten U.S allies and forces abroad.
And one, North Korea, is on the verge of
deploying missiles that can hit the American
homeland. Such capabilities pose a grave
challenge to the American peace and the
military power that preserves that peace.
Iraq down, Libya Down, Syria almost down, Iran next or North Korea it will be a tough call.
The only problem as you point out is that when we eliminate the perceived threat what replaces it is often worse.
Also, I remember reading about the supersonic torpedoes too. They are Russian weapons called Shkval Torpedoes
There is no known defense against them. I thought our navies would be mothballed a while ago since you are just a duck in a barrel.
It is just the M.A.D. scenario where everyone knows what pushing the button will produce.
Somebody ran an article about how Trumps son said Trump let the missiles fly because Ivanka was upset. His son said Trump would shoot somebody if Ivanka told him to do it.
Even if this story is only partly true this is the most FUBAR situation of all time. WTF? Somebody needs to take daddy’s big red button away before he pushes it whenever his children feel vengeful.
Someone posted a link to the Daily Mail from 2013 about a US plan to stage a gas attack and blame Assad and use it as a pretext for invasion.
If true then there would have to have been a plan in place to make sure that the media would never question the story. Just like any false flag operation you can never let the cat out of the bag. The unquestioning conclusion of Assad’s guilt for the recent attack seems suspicious. Like some secret plan was executed and the media played their part. Just like they did in Iraq, just like they did in Vietnam, just like they did back in the day when we……..etc. etc. etc.
I myself have posted comments to the fact that that story has been debunked , only because there is a legitimate record online showing the recantation of the story , in a statement to the court , by the Daily Mail writers.
However , this recantation could have been coerced , by way of bribery or worse. If the emails that were the source of the story are legitimate , that story is a blockbuster , with the potential to expose the entire false-flag war-making pretext operation of the West. If those emails had been vetted for authenticity and then released by Wikileaks , instead of by some obscure hacker online and then via the Daily Mail , the story would have achieved the blockbuster status it deserved.
It’s not too late. That hacker , and the original email hack , are still available. Someone should get those emails to Wikileaks , pronto.
Around a dying fire
Listening to the ocean’s ancient song
Whiling away the time
Sharing dreams and fears
Through the long days
And longer nights
In search of a soul
That seems to be dying
By many winding ways
We have found ourselves
With others on this lonely beach
Wondering where we will go
When all paths
Come to an end
And the great Universe
Folds us into
It’s mysterious Self
Strongly recommended: The Saker on war with Iran
A more recent Saker essay is this one:
The coverage of the neutering of Trump is slightly different than in Mr. Marshall’s essay, but it’s still an interesting viewpoint. One note of caution – the link story is not nearly as politically correct!
One more tiny excerpt from the long Saker piece:
I agree, but then also I’m the one who didn’t think Trump was dumb enough to be taken in by the White Helmets Theater show created for him.
Earth is readying herself to write the sapiens epitaph and nature will breathe a sigh of relief as the last of the greedy, hubristic, warring humans fade into her distant memory. I don’t know of any way to stop this madness that infects the psychopaths of the beltway, I don’t. These vain fools will end things for everything else that is good about Earth, humans not included. We, meaning humans, are facing not one but three converging paths; global nuclear annihilation, global poisoning, global warming, in that order. This is the end result of capitalism left in the hands of the capitalists. They control the state, not state restrains the capitalists. Karl Polanyi wrote a book on the great transformation of the industrial revolution, the next transformation, most likely, will be the last one. If anyone knows anyway, at all, of how to stop this madness, it’s high time to start or sapiens are doomed.
I don’t know your age Ol’ Hippy, but I am 86, and I still have the ideals I imbibed in the 60’s. I still believe in the possibility of a better world for all beings, but like you I can’t say I’m sure it will happen. But I’m not going to stop truckin’ along in my own way to do what I can to wake people up so they can come together right now! And make something good happen for all of us….
That’s it. You never know…… Simple humility, the essence of realism.
What makes it so tragic is that human awareness and intelligence should have been Nature’s crowning achievement, an unprecedented event on this planet that allowed the material world to become aware of its own beauty and majesty. Though admitting that I think all formal religions are contrived by human minds, the fact that they are almost universal and mostly revel in the wonderment of creation (=the fact that anything exists, that we are actually able to perceive it, understand it and marvel at it) causes me to agree that the “natural order of things” should be to revere and preserve all life throughout nature, not subjugate, exploit and destroy it in the service of mere selfish whims.
This may be circular reasoning without an anchor in any self-evident axiom (and, yes, Goedel’s Incompleteness Theorum precludes anything but), but it seems almost as if Nature programmed the “religious” or mystical experience in the human brain as a mechanism for self-preservation, one which we override under threat of collapsing the entire system upon which our marvelous existence was laboriously constructed over the eons. Why would we do that? For our local clan, an insignificant gene pool differing from the rest of all humanity by just a tiny fraction of one percent (perhaps a few hundred or thousand nucleotide sites in a genome of over three billion such sites), just to lay claim to a few additional square acres of territory at our neighbor’s expense? Or to accumulate a few more trinkets of no practical use?
The neocortex of our big brain with all the logical computing power seems to fail repeatedly when matched against what Carl Sagan called our primitive “reptilian” brain that reflexively just seeks to acquire as much as possible, here and now, because the future cannot be comprehended by the relatively simple reflex arcs in this more archaic structure. Too often we act like the Burmese python that swallows whole an entire antelope or crocodile and then dies because its stomach bursts.
This is why we write down the paths of true wisdom in our holy books, our history books and science books, so that we will not be led astray by our innate avarice in the moment. And we teach these principles to every child from whatever culture he or she originates, and yet we never truly learn. We always make excuses so we can cut corners and ensure our ultimate demise. I guess the only way Jesus could really change our behavior would be to come back down commanding a fleet space ships with giant robots like Gort issuing ultimatums. Of course, that would eliminate even the illusion of free will and we would deserve no credit for making the right choices.
It is the selfish bully-boy, present in every culture and religion, who rises in business and seizes power over democracies whose institutions are not protected from economic power. Those who know better can preach all they want with zero effect upon this problem. Even the reduction of such personalities by better social education does not solve the problem. The bully does not care what you say, does not care about anyone but himself, and will always be the problem.
Only better democratic institutions can regulate the bully. Elections and mass media and every government institution must be protected from economic and information power as well as from direct use of force. The Constitutional Convention did not do that because economic concentrations were small. There is no peaceful way to do so now because the tools of democracy, elections and mass media, are already controlled by tyrants. There is no peaceful way, and talking peace is talking defeat.
“The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants” in every generation, as Jefferson said. Unfortunately there is no other way to take power back from tyrants. We can make it harder for them to corrupt institutions, but only after another generation of war against them.
The US has not won a conflict since WW2. Where they exerted themselves they have left a trial of misery and destruction. They are the most despised nation worldwide. One has to wonder how much longer the population
in America can tolerate it. While it is often quoted that the Americans are dumb, and that maybe true, the hardship which increases due to social neglect and with it ever increasing poverty will become a factor in many ways. How such dispirited people can than believe in the righteousness of Americas cause is hard to fathom. And yet to fight for it
is even harder to comprehend..
People are intelligent but USAans ( not Americans) are the most propagandized citizens in history. Historically revolution occurs when ba critical mass of citizens reach a critical level of economic hardship. Simultaneously fascism thrives on economic hardships.
I have always thought that most Americans would choose to be military isolationists if offered the choice. We end up destroying as much wealth as we create through our wars of aggression, and we make life (for those who survive) more of a misery than a “free and democratic” utopia. We don’t have to dominate every corner of the globe militarily to thrive and prosper as international traders and businessmen. China has got to where they are today not at the point of a gun but through shrewd deal-making that should be the envy of Donald Trump, not a target of his bombs. America was poised for greatness before the two world wars were thrust upon humanity precisely because we were a country of builders, traders, farmers, craftsmen… and swindlers, moreso than murderers, although we did have a penchant for that too, just ask the Native Americans, black African slaves and the Chicanos living on “American soil” for thousands of years before there was a United States of America. It was the traits listed before the ellipsis that conferred our greatness, those after constitute our tragic flaw that will be our undoing and continue to cost the rest of the world a lot of lives and heartbreak.
One could argue that by the forced maintenance of a large segment of the world’s population at a stone-age level of existence , everyone in the West benefits in two ways : 1 ) That population is not competing for the consumption of the earth’s dwindling resources , and 2 ) Desperate for any income stream , they allow the West access to their raw material assets , lowering costs for consumers with disposable income everywhere.
One could make such an argument , but only if one were an evil monster.
We defeated DOZENS of Cuban construction workers in Greneda, sure showed them islanders some American freedom yeah!
How dumb can people be? You can’t achieve hegemony by creating chaos. You can only achieve chaos by creating chaos, and that’s exactly what the U.S. has done in every country it has invaded. Vietnam never recovered from chaos until the U.S. pulled out completely and then it took many years to recover. Afghanistan is still in chaos after nearly 40 years of U.S. meddling. Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Libya and Ukraine are all in chaos with the help of U.S. interference. (And I won’t even begin to count the African countries and South and Central American countries that have been victimized by U.S. foreign policy.)
I challenge anyone to name one single true victory since WWII. One might be tempted to name Korea, but was that really a victory? We achieved a stalemate and have kept it only by maintaining an immense U.S. military presence and making a huge capital investment in South Korea, the cost of which we cannot begin to afford if we want to achieve stability in every country we invade.
The only people who benefit from chaos are the policy makers who see war as a means of rallying the public behind them, the military who use war to build empires, the weapons makers who profit from the sale of weapons and munitions, the myriad of organizations that provide logistic support for the military and the media for which war increases the sales of subscriptions and advertising. Everyone else loses.
Yes the warmongers who took over after WWII are scoundrels without exception, classical tyrants over democracy of whom Aristotle warned, creating foreign enemies of pose falsely as protectors and accuse their moral superiors of disloyalty. They are technologists of deception serving plutocracy, and nothing more. They have zero concern for anyone but themselves. But they cannot be displaced peacefully because they control elections and mass media.
So let me get this straight, so if the U.S. bombs the bejesus out of Tehran, it will have been because a certain tv star celebrity couldn’t handle a few insult jokes at a White House Correspondence Dinner, and there for this poor little handed rich guy with the strange hairdo hired every Iran hater his predecessor fired, and there in lies his strategy? Now I ask you, is this anyway to run a country’s military?
All Americans should read George Washington’s 1796 Farewell Address, before they read Eisenhower’s 1/17/61 MIC warning, and then they should start too question America’s current foreign entanglements. Don’t get me wrong I’d stand alongside any ethnic or religious group if I thought they were being harassed or threaten in a unfair way, but I’m at a loss to why apartheid Israel and Wahabi inspired Saudi Arabia are of such great importance that so many lives and national treasures have been squandered and put to risk over their welfare.
Like I have said before on this comment board of how I fear that Iran and N Korea are being eyeballed up by some in our military complex as their becoming the new Hiroshima and Nagasaki. To give reference to this fear, I watch and hear on this tv screen many retired generals and diplomats speak to this ‘peace through strength’ ideology. I get it that these generals are paid to think about destabilizing and destroying the enemy, but what about the diplomats, are these envoys of ours not suppose to be diplomatic? Does America only have two ways of settling difficult matters of state, one being punishing a sovereign society with harsh economic sanctions, and the other being the ultimate price of having a bomb wipe out every living thing in its path?
Since Trump discovered America’s bomb arsenal his favorability ratings have gone up. Talk about a perfect storm.
Joe, I’m a big fan of President Bartlett of “West Wing” and after watching it twice, I became weary of their constant trips downstairs to the “sit” room. Nothing but military trouble in that room and God help you if you disagree. I began to yearn for an adjoining “negotiation room” for alternative expert advice. Could it be this simple flaw in the dynamics of the White House that leads to War War War?
Now I like that a negotiation room where peaceful solutions would be the goal. Bob we should never feel embarrassed for our advocating for peace. If I have but only one life to live on this earth, then I’d rather be remembered to be a person of peace.
The real problem is, is that ever since Trump went on the war path that Trump’s new demeanor has inspired many of our countrymen who now cheer on the fact, that we are now finally leading in the front and not from behind. It’s sad that this type of ideology represents to many an American who is proud and patriotic to our constant destruction and installing chaos all over this world, as what they think best represents our nation. To me there is something awfully sick inside that mindset.
Yes the problem is that the president is advised and in fact surrounded socially by the NSC and other warmongers highly trained in propaganda and social pressure. There is no reason to suppose that “national security” is a daily problem: in fact this the theatre of the warmongers.
I propose a Council of Policy Advisors to advise the chief executive, based upon the commented debate results of a completely independent College of Policy Analysis, constituted to consider all viewpoints in all disciplines, in all policy areas and foreign regions. The College of Analysis must represent all viewpoints, and must not seek consensus.
The executive must be entirely separated from the fronts of conflict, with no emotional attachment to groups or viewpoints or issues. Most recent executive decisions on security and war have been the result of emotional errors and social pressure, the sure sign of extremely poor organizational structure.
Apartheid israel (incl. its incremental genocide) is now on a par with Nazi Germany & former imperial Japan. The latter 2 got the Dresden/Hiroshima/Nagasaki treatment, so there is no reason why israel should not get the same. Unfortunately no country with the capability to do that would be prepared to do so. The alternative: BDS, which got Apartheid South Africa on its knees. Unfortunately israel is much stronger, better connected & better financed.
Wahabi Saud i Arabia deserves a bombing into submission too.
Before we go bombing anybody, because innocent people who are not responsible should not suffer for what their leaders do, I’d rather arrest all politicians of any country where human rights and war crimes have been committed. I do share your anger of these scoundrels, but I just wish we could tear these evil minded politicos out from their ivory towers and be done with them. Thanks for the reply.
What is it about so many Americans that they think they should be the worlds cop?
After destoying so many democracies and starting so many BS wars that killed millions of innocent people the US is in no position to dictate anything to anybody.
One of the reasons could be that we Americans think we are the only civilized ones on earth, and with that we have the right or maybe even the responsibility to stomp on other peoples land. I often believe this started with our forefathers bringing in the African slaves to do our dirty work, and likewise with this cruel nature brought down the great Native American nations who once thrived upon this land. America needs to have a long talk with itself, and do some repentance where upon confession of our sins are a must. For starters what I just wrote here should not be deemed unAmerican.
Indeed, Manifest Destiny has infected the American mindset, as our birth right, How the West Was Won established American Exceptionalism so thoroughly that liberals are hating the enemy more than the buffoon in chief.
Threatening the white hat affixed to our figurative heads is tantamount to treason in the proudly ignorant American mindset.
Generations from now our grandchildren will ask, what did YOU do? When America fell the way empires do. Unless we can get fellow citizens to look at the truth. How do we hack the code?
Sure, just have Russia decide that Israel has crossed a lot of red lines the next time they are linked to Syria, and nuke their military bases. If they fight back, take out the whole place. Simple as that, and absolutely no one will miss them.
This is probably the only path to restoration of democracy in the US in our lifetimes, well worth frying the few non-zionists there.
Operation Samson is not a pretty solution.
No people deserve a bombing into submission.
And may I add: aerial bombing is the coward’s way.
That’s exactly right, Joe. We dissidents (at this point I think it has become fair to call us that) want our free, fair and democratic America, which was not an international murdering pariah, back. Of course, we are accused of wanting the rules of Putin’s Russia (whatever they may be) imposed on our own people, or inviting the onerous rule of Shariah law on the streets of Chicago, Detroit and Philadelphia, which is a load of bushwah. They will say we want our tax dollars used to support people defined as our enemies both locally and abroad, therefore we are un-American traitors and should be punished along with the hapless targets of the junta that controls our government and vast military. The Deep State cannot tolerate actual fact-finding on accusations of “stolen elections” or poison gas attacks, but I have no doubt that the cache of our emails and posts to blogs like this can and will be used against us when the NSA decides to trot them out at our war crimes trials, once the next great war is safely under way and they need scape goats to hunt down. People like Robert Parry are especially brave as those who speak truth to power are the first to “unter das rad gehen” when the brown shirts are let loose.
Setting things back to a time when America was not this insatiable dragon looking to swallow countries and resources every day in the service of wealth and power may not be possible without a great war, either internally or externally. It’s got to the point where that probably cannot happen unless it is overthrown in a civil war or defeated by an alliance of foreign powers. The Deep State tool of the oligarchy has the perfect formula to keep the status quo in place: pauperize most of the populace and offer six-figure salaries to the Quislings who staff the military hierarchy and the government “Nomenklatura” (to borrow an apt word from our Russian brethren). It’s this privilege given to those who employ murderous force against their own people that have always made tyranny possible, since the days of the ancient empires (think of the Roman legions) to the contemporary war lords in Africa and Central Asia (from “General Butt Naked” to Abdul Rashid Dostum). Who are the insider generals that control the use of “legitimate force” (i.e., the American global killing machine) ensconced in Trump’s cabinet (which has more generals than you can shake a swagger stick at)?
Surely presidents like Washington, Jefferson, and Adams would be horrified at the transmogrification of America into such a militaristic state, projecting raw power further than any empire has ever done in the history of the planet. But, I feel, granted without evidence, that even those presidents most known for deploying our military in great wars, such as Jackson, Polk, Lincoln, Wilson, the two Roosevelts, and Eisenhower would be horrified. I think even LBJ and Nixon would be conflicted and refrain from going as far as the two Bushes, Clinton, Obama and now Trump. Maybe Truman would be comfortable ordering the deployment of more nuclear bombs. Maybe the difference is those dead guys in the history books actually called the shots, whereas our contemporary “commanders in chief” are mere puppets to a greater power lurking in the shadows.
Huhhh. We “want our free, fair and democratic America, which was not an international murdering pariah, back.”
Was that the America that decimate the aboriginal peoples in this country? Maybe the America that invaded the Phillipines where they killed 600,000 and comitted all sorts of horrors?
It is a long list. America has ALWAYS been an international murdering pariah.
SO BLEEPIN TRUE! EVEN PROGRESSIVES LOOK THROUGH ROSE TINTED GLASSES AT US HISTORY. IT’S VERY HARD TO ACCEPT HOW PATHOLOGICALLY MILITARISTIC AND MATERIALISTIC AMERICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN
My comments were hardly colored with rose tinted glasses. I’d say I was quite condemnatory of American policy, which is sometimes even worse than usual.
I was making a point about how bad things have become recently, arguably moreso than our usual genocidal tendencies which I mention often enough at this venue (see below), not recounting all of American history. I am well aware of the incidents you mention. Now, why did you leave out so much if you wanted a comprehensive list of all our sins?
General Smedley Butler realized his role and disgrace, only to fade into tinfoil hattery.
American exceptionalism is a lie, a precious lie we adore.
There was a time before tv, radio, Internet, and huge print media outlets, that you and I would be three months behind while leaning on an idle plough when we would have heard about Trump’s Tomahawk missile attack. The earth was bigger back then, and battles we won were fought bravely, while battles we lost were described as unfair advantages taken by our enemy. So with that all past history is suspect to it be a bit fudged or just flat out lied about. You and I live in a much different period, but yet our news is such a collage of a variety of agendas, that the truth is hidden within plain sight, but where is it?
If we take George Washington’s words in his farewell address to heart, then yes we are doing it all wrong with our modern day foreign policy. If we as a society really cared enough to end this madness we would take Eisenhower’s warning, and do something about it.
We need a media which reports, and not entertains. We are being entertained too our destruction.
Whether we ever received it or not, we deserve the America we were promised by the likes of Washington, Eisenhower… and Jefferson, Lincoln, the Roosevelts and so many others. Yes, all of these men equivocated at times in their public lives, none were perfect, not always fair and didn’t always deliver what they promised, but some were better than others, but the lot we have had since the late 1980’s has been atrocious… especially murderous of hapless peoples who have got in the way of American empire building.
Not only the media, but our schools too need to be shorter on the fables and longer on the actual facts of history.
You are right about what we should have, and if things were run the way you and I think they should be run the rest of the world would bathe in relief. Nothing more important than our schools because the schools are our future.
I recommended this book to another commenter in an earlier stream:
“Amusing Ourselves to Death” by Neil Postman at NYU.
It is a great read, and spot on.
Yes, we like all peoples should use the better parts of our history to move forward, and now that we have declined into plutocracy, cannot do so without seeing that “The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants” every generation or so, as Jefferson warned. After ten generations of increasing tyranny by economic power, the restoration of democracy will probably by very bloody, whether internally or externally imposed. I suspect that change will be externally imposed by massive war losses and embargoes, followed by poverty and revolution based upon economic class differences.
Usually revolutions produce only incremental improvements, so the US may now need multiple waterings of the tree of liberty, starting back at square one, with people of little political sophistication imposing primitive new orders, gradually becoming corrupted and replaced with slightly better ones, etc. So we may be unable to preserve what was good in our history, due to the extremity of its corruption.
That god forsaken country, the US, is a depraved, sick, rogue state that is the gravest danger to security & stability in the Middle East, as well as in the rest of the world. The progressives in the US bear a part of the responsibility for not having acted decisively enough, and for letting a complete psychopath win the White House. War with Iran and North Korea will end in failure & a very high price to pay for all, including the US. War with Russia, which is on the cards too, will finish us all off.
There a few ‘progressives’ in the US and less leftists.
Their candidate didn’t need to be housebroken because she was the neocon Manchurian candidate combined with the Angela Lansbury character in one person. They are fascists and war criminals and the outcome, as noted above, could be fatal. Imperialist hubris always ends this way, but with the weapons that exist now, consequences are more serious. Meanwhile, the western world’s media propaganda central functions as a fascist cheerleading squad for armageddon.
How insulting to poor Angela Lansbury, who at least had charm: Killary can’t even pretend to likability let alone charm.
So, progressives are at fault for not endorsing and voting for Hillary Clinton?
Hillary would have given the go on Iran from Day 1. Trump had lasted almost three months before he got sucked into the Neocon/Dem Party initiatives. They backed him into a corner by calling him a Putin bitch. An Ego like Trump couldn’t handle this. Once he figured out the “Lying Liberal Media” would kiss his ass if he started bombing Syria, his vision began to clear.
When you consider Ego rules Trump, there is no place for rational thinking. Democratic Party loyalists are NOT the same as progressives. Progressives hope for the liberation of mind and freedom from ego. There is zero chance of this happening to Trump and the thieves among thieves have firm ownership of the Dem Party and all their handout minions.
America is the good guy, freedom is the only way.
Or so Americans desperately believe, everyone I talk to supports the bombs, American ordnance = freedom in the indoctrinated American mind.
Either we find solutions that stop the march to global war, my friends, or we are finished.
It really is that simple
The Solution is for the citizens of the US to force your Govenment to remove all support from Israel if not Israel will force you the US in to more wars for the sake of Israel.
Fortunately anti-Semitism is less effective at marginalizing voices who demand exactly what you recommend.
Will this overcome the most ignorant population in American history?
The MIC monster is licking it’s chops over the prospect of more weapons contracts and blood from war with Iran. The God of War that neocons serve is exulting over prospects of more destruction and suffering to come. Who said evil was an outmoded reality? It’s alive and well in America, and ready to spread it’s dark wings over the entire world. The much longed for World War Three seems just in the offing now. The Dark Lords of War are pushing us faster and faster to the precipice of their dreamed of final solution: Nuclear War!
These so-called neo cons are super criminals or super predators. Like the banksters, they continue to run unbridled for no prosecutions were ever brought against either.
The neo-cons are fascists within and without the US government They must be held responsible under the Nuremburg laws, UN laws and the world court.
Many of them have passports from Israel for they understand they might have to flee. There, they can be taken under the wing of Netanyahu and the fascists that control Zionist Israel.
Keep in mind that seventeen of the signers of that Project For New American Century document in 1998, later got jobs in the Bush Administration. Also keep in mind that 90% of the signers were Jewish Zionists. The whole purpose of the document was to make the Middle East safe for Israel, so that Israel could keep the land they stole and dictate the settlement terms with Palestinians.
That is why we got the Iraq war. ……. But there is more to it !
Here is probably what happened in 2002 in a deal worked out by Dick Cheney:
The Iraq war, and removal of Saddam, would have been impossible unless the Saudis agreed to it in advance. Therefore, in 2002 Saudi Arabia (Prince Bandar) was shown a list of seven countries where the neocons (Zionists) wanted to do regime change.This is the same list that General Wesley Clark later spoke about seeing. The Saudis agreed that, in exchange for the high probability that, after the war, Iraq would be taken over by the Shiites, there would be regime change in both Iran and Syria to compensate the Saudi’s.
There was also probably a side agreement made by Dick Cheney in 2002 with the neocons, that President Bush, in exchange for the Iraq war, would be guaranteed re-election in 2004, by receiving favorable media treatment through neocon (Zionist) controlled media, such as the New York Times and Washington Post.
That is where we are at today folks !
The neocons must absolutely complete their part of a grand bargain made back in 2002 with Saudi Arabia. That is why they will not give up on their quest for regime change in Syria. They absolutely have to do this first in order to isolate Iran, and then do regime change in Iran, as promised to the Saudi’s.
If they can’t complete their grand bargain, the Israeli / Saudi alliance will fall apart.
here is another very uncomfortable story from NEO, that the chemical “incident” may very well be a part of…
The Neocons are just the well paid “policy” apparatchiks of the banksters and the Israeli Likud (terrorist) governments; the MIC is the( golden goose) applicatation.
A side effect of the neocon wars is the moral and financial bankruptcy of the USA: and it is worth considering if that ‘side effect’ is an unspoken “policy” aim.
In the animal kingdom a predator does its own killing. These effete, neocon metrosexual couldn’t fight their way out of a wet paper bag.
The DemoNeoCons used Russiagate to turn an actor tycoon into Gengis Khan.