Shying Away from 9/11 Evidence

Lee Hamilton has always flinched at implicating important Americans and “allies” in crimes of state – citing the need for near perfect evidence – but that has let complicit parties go unpunished, says 9/11 widow Kristen Breitweiser.

By Kristen Breitweiser

Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton wrote an opinion piece last week in USAToday, trying to “temper” feelings surrounding the release of “the 28 pages.”

Kean and Hamilton wrote, “The 28 pages have generated a lot of public speculation over the years and have been described as a ‘smoking gun’ implicating the Saudi government in the deadliest terrorist attack carried out on U.S. soil.”

Hijacked plane about to strike the second of New York City's Twin Towers on Sept. 11, 2001.

Hijacked plane about to strike the second of New York City’s Twin Towers on Sept. 11, 2001.

They go on to write, “What often gets lost in those theories is that the 28 pages were based almost entirely on raw, unvetted material that came to the FBI. That material was written up as possible leads for further investigation, and the 28 pages were a summary of some of those reports and leads as of the end of 2002 — all of them uninvestigated.”

What Kean and Hamilton fail to acknowledge is the reason the “raw, unvetted material” was left “uninvestigated” was strictly because of the 9/11 Commission’s Staff Director, Philip Zelikow.

Zelikow has too many conflicts of interest to list in this article. Suffice it to say that a critical portion of the 9/11 Commission’s Final Report can be seen as merely a fairy-tale rendition (or intelligence “story”) of Zelicow’s design. (Scroll down to the lunch break, read Zelikow’s next Staff Statement where he talks about an “intelligence story.”)

Indeed, chapter 5, “Al Qaeda Aims at the Homeland,” and chapter 7, “The Attack Looms,” provide most of the vital pieces of information surrounding the 9/11 plot by citing Khalid Sheikh Mohammad’s interviews as their primary source. Why would any laudable historian (who Zelikow professes to be) base an official accounting of the worst terrorist attack since Pearl Harbor on the bogus ramblings of a detained, tortured terrorist? That’s why anything and everything that comes out of Zelikow’s mouth should be questioned for its veracity — and motive.

After all, if the person in charge of torturing KSM wanted to obscure the Saudi role, is it a surprise that KSM would say what his torturer wanted to hear? Moreover, is it a surprise that the person or persons in charge of KSM’s torture, who wanted to obscure the U.S. government’s awareness of the threat and indeed specific knowledge of many of the terrorist activities before the attack, would elicit a story consistent with that goal?

Indeed, regarding the 9/11 Commission’s treatment of the Saudi role in the 9/11 attacks, Zelikow’s hands are easily found. Look at three items.

First, Zelikow blocked and then fired Dana Lesemann when she tried to investigate the uninvestigated leads in the 28 pages. Where were Tom and Lee when this happened?

Second, it was only Zelikow and Dieter Snell who were granted access and able to question Omar Bayoumi — a man who stands at the epicenter of the Saudi nexus to the 9/11 attacks. Why were Zelikow and Snell the only ones permitted to interview such a key individual?

Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana.

Former Rep. Lee Hamilton, D-Indiana.

Finally, it was Zelikow and Snell who “re-wrote” the entire Saudi section of the 9/11 Commission’s Final Report — leaving out all the damning, incriminating information. Where is that missing information today? Available for public review?

So please, when Kean and Hamilton say that they “found no evidence linking the Saudis to the 9/11 attacks,” pay careful attention to the cute use of their words, “found no evidence.” Because while concededly there may not then have been conclusive proof, there were certainly indications and evidence that required further and immediate follow-up.

In addition, note when Kean and Hamilton talk about access granted to the 28 pages being given to “relevant” staff. Which staff were deemed relevant? And who decided what staffers were “relevant?” Zelikow? Everyone had clearance, so why didn’t all investigative staff have access to the 28 pages?

Kean and Hamilton also proudly state that their report is unclassified and available to the public. What you need to realize is that while their final report is unclassified, the source documents for that report remain classified and hidden from the public.

In short, unlike redacted reports where you can readily see what is being kept secret by the dark lines crossing out words, with the 9/11 Commission’s Final Report, we’ll never know how much other pertinent information was kept out and classified by Zelikow.

And, as someone who has looked for specific documents on the National Archives website, I can state emphatically that many of the 9/11 Commission’s most vital and damning documents remain redacted, withheld, classified and/or unavailable to the public.

Moreover, please pay attention to how Kean and Hamilton characterize the 9/11 Review Panel. Realize that the 9/11 Review Panel did nothing more than tie up the loose, uncomfortable (i.e. damning) ends that would inevitably be created with the release of the 28 pages.

Was the Panel’s purpose to uncover the entire 9/11 story or to stop further inquiry that would eventually uncover the entire truth?

Finally, I do agree with one section of Kean and Hamilton’s editorial, “The 9/11 attacks were the worst mass murder ever carried out in the United States. Those responsible deserve the maximum punishment possible. Therefore, accusations of complicity in that mass murder from responsible authorities are a grave matter. Such charges should be levied with care.”

I just hope that both Kean and Hamilton mean what they say when they talk about those responsible and complicit in the 9/11 attacks “deserving the maximum punishment possible.” And I hope their definition of complicity is as broad as mine, by including actions before and after the crime and actors from inside and outside the United States.

So for example, let’s just say that our CIA (or a rogue element of it) tried to recruit two 9/11 hijackers in San Diego who were already in contact with Saudi agents. And in carrying out that task, the CIA worked with those Saudi agents in the recruitment process. And thus, all the Saudi contacts and support for the hijackers detailed in the 28 pages (the so-called “smoking gun”) necessarily reveals the CIA/Saudi cooperation in dealing with those two 9/11 hijackers.

Incidentally, this might explain why CIA Director John Brennan has joined the chorus in stating that all information released in the 28 pages is “uncorroborated, unvetted information.”

President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney receive an Oval Office briefing from CIA Director George Tenet. Also present is Chief of Staff Andy Card (on right). (White House photo)

President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney receive an Oval Office briefing from CIA Director George Tenet. Also present is Chief of Staff Andy Card (on right). (White House photo)

Will Kean and Hamilton support holding the CIA officials accountable? Will Cofer Black and James Pavitt be held accountable? George Tenet? John McLaughlin? What about John Brennan? Or Michael Hayden? Bob Mueller? Richard Clarke? Too late for Sandy Berger (and those docs he stuffed in his socks), but what about Clinton? Bush? Cheney? Rice? And, Obama? How about Zelikow and all others who have known the truth for years and kept silent?

When Kean and Hamilton say complicity is a “grave matter,” I hope they follow through on their word.

Clearly, much will depend on how good a job was done by the 9/11 Review Panel. But, putting that aside, I certainly hope the U.S. government does not expect the 9/11 families to ignore 15 years of their cover-up and capitalized “opportunities” in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

(Quoting Condi Rice here in the immediate wake of the 9/11 attacks where she said, “how can we capitalize on these opportunities” — that’s right, she called the mass murder of 3,000 innocent people an “opportunity” that should be “capitalized upon”).

Recently, we’ve seen that even though decades have passed since Dennis Hastert committed his despicable deeds, he was eventually caught and held accountable for the cover-up of those deeds. To me, this demonstrates that the truth will always emerge.

Fifteen years after the 9/11 murders, we have uncovered a part of that truth, let us hope it does not take another 15 years for the whole truth to emerge. Rest assured, we will never give up nor will we ever go away.

Kristen Breitweiser is a 9/11 widow and activist who – working with other 9/11 widows known collectively as the “Jersey Girls” – pressured the U.S. government to conduct a formal investigation into the terror attacks on Sept. 11, 2001. Follow Kristen Breitweiser on Twitter: www.twitter.com/kdbreitweiser. [This article originally appeared as a blog post at HuffingtonPost. 9/11 widows Patty Casazza, Monica Gabrielle, Mindy Kleinberg, and Lorie Van Auken also sign their names to this blog.] Follow Kristen Breitweiser on Twitter: www.twitter.com/kdbreitweiser

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58 comments for “Shying Away from 9/11 Evidence

  1. Bagwis
    May 8, 2016 at 6:01 am

    Gulf of Tonkin!

  2. May 7, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    Sufficient evidence exists to commence indictments of key suspects, make arrests and INTERROGATE to add to our knowledge of what really happened and, especially, WHO DID 9-11. This ‘rule of law’ solution has the possiblity of preserving our Republic through the use of due process through courts and military tribunals.

    Not mentioned so far is GELATIN: THE B THING Check the Ken Doc wordpress website for an archive of GELATIN and most other evidence.

    http://911JusticeCampaign.org

  3. Kevin Beck
    May 6, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    I just have one question that may lead to an unfortunate conclusion.

    If the aforementioned Kean and Hamilton are saying (as members of the investigative committee) that the 28 pages were “based upon raw, unvetted material by the FBI,” I believe one needs to ask why there’s any possible validity to the claim that the rest of the report’s details were properly investigated and vetted by the FBI. I mean, their statement does not even come close to implying that the rest of the details of the report were investigated. Which does beg the question (already asked in the article) of what was investigated.

    To me, this is why there should be no such thing as “government (of national) secrets.”

    Everything in the investigation should have been made public at the same time. And that would have been at the conclusion of the investigation and the writing of the report. And I mean, every detail that was investigated.

  4. Chris Bridges
    May 6, 2016 at 8:24 am

    There is no question that Israel was involved in the 9/11 attacks and the FBI and CIA are well aware of it. Zelikow is one of the most important Zionist agents in the country. Questioning the Muslims involved would reveal nothing as they were essentially dupes. However, if a true investigation were allowed the Israeli hand would quickly show. Why do you think the Neo-Cons and their friends hate and fear Trump so much? Yes, the corrupt Saudi’s provided funds to these people but the Mossad manipulated the attacks. Israel and the Saudi’s are strategic allies and public enemies.

    • elmerfudzie
      May 7, 2016 at 12:04 am

      Chris Bridges, so glad you emphasized Zelikow’s role in the 911 cover up. He’s a student of the Edward Bernays school of propaganda and a fine example of what constitutes the societal Mission of George Orwell’s, Ministry of Truth. Here’s a reference representing some of Bernays strategies: http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html. I feel more resentful towards the American newsprint media than with Israel or the House of Saud. Not one courageous reporter came forward, from the whole lot of them! enough to make you spit! What good is it now, over ten years later, pointing accusing fingers? The deep state machinery and it’s policy to frighten our citizenry into a militaristic, police state proved to be a complete success. When the truth isn’t reported in a timely manner, the bad guy’s win! Evil only succeeds when good men do nothing or look the other way.

    • elmerfudzie
      May 7, 2016 at 9:19 am

      Re-post, first try failed:Chris Bridges, so glad you emphasized Zelikow’s role in the 911 cover up. He’s a student of the Edward Bernays school of propaganda and a fine example of what constitutes the societal Mission of George Orwell’s, Ministry of Truth. Here’s a reference representing some of Bernays strategies: http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/bernprop.html. I feel more resentful towards the American newsprint media than with Israel or the House of Saud. Not one courageous reporter came forward, from the whole lot of them! enough to make you spit! What good is it now, over ten years later, pointing accusing fingers? The deep state machinery and it’s policy to frighten our citizenry into a militaristic, police state proved to be a complete success. When the truth isn’t reported in a timely manner, the bad guy’s win! Evil only succeeds when good men do nothing or look the other way.

  5. May 6, 2016 at 4:27 am

    Erik: “real or pretended conspiracy advocates”.

    As though the 9-11 Commission’s report did not blame a conspiracy for the 9-11 attacks. Does Erik even comprehend what the word “conspiracy” means?

  6. elmerfudzie
    May 6, 2016 at 1:27 am

    This is a repost I somehow neglected to send the other day:I ask that all CONSORTIUMNEWS readers familiarize themselves with the documentary; ZERO An Investigation Into 9 11, a YouTube presentation produced by Telemaco, Discoventure Film Makers. In this video, the so called, Saudi attackers and their current whereabouts clearly demonstrate a contradiction in official statements released by the FBI. It further shows that policing agencies have yet to establish that any terrorist(s) were aboard or listed as a passenger(s). I suggest that as you watch the vid, keep in mind the actions and beliefs of one, Felix Dzerzhinski who founded the Cheka and elements of the NKVD and KGB. In short, he believed that humanity at large amounts to nothing more than cattle, to be used and or exterminated at will by the powers that be. This Machiavellianism continues to influence elements within the Neocons and government law enforcement agencies, worldwide. Humanity now has this global monster to contend with and the beast is armed with computers, dope profiteering and “billionaire club” funding(s), what comes next, surely will never come to ANY good.

    • L, Reichard White
      May 6, 2016 at 8:00 pm

      Yup!

  7. ThisOldMan
    May 5, 2016 at 9:06 pm

    “Fifteen years after the 9/11 murders, we have uncovered a part of that truth, let us hope it does not take another 15 years for the whole truth to emerge. Rest assured, we will never give up nor will we ever go away.”

    yeah. Try telling that to the Kennedy family (what’s left of them …).

  8. May 5, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    One of the propaganda methods to try to discredit 9/11 truth investigators was to accuse them of being “conspiracy theorists” — meant to be derogatory. Some media pundits in the 9/11 cover-up saga would therefore imply, or outright assert, that 9/11 researchers were somehow “crazy” to conclude that the 9/11 Commission Report was a (clever) cover-up, — designed to protect the real perpetrators who have yet to be brought to justice.

    9/11 was an unusually complex and sophisticated false flag operation. It was both an “inside” and “outside” job. The suspects who were imprisoned, placed in indefinite solitary confinement, and tortured were simply the patsies.

    It escaped most peoples’ attention that those judging the mental status of 9/11 truthers were not qualified to do so. They had no psychiatric training. But I do. I am a real psychologist with top notch (clinical) credentials, and also with experience in journalism. I happen to have known some of the original 9/11 truth activists personally, and also have interviewed in person some of the key 9/11 truth researchers who have authored important books on 9/11.

    My clinical (psychological) assessment: The 9/11 truth researchers I have interviewed are not “mad-hatters” nor are they “crazy.” Quite the opposite, they are extremely intelligent, rational, and psychologically healthy. Their conclusions about 9/11 deserve careful consideration and the utmost of respect.

  9. Claus Eric Hamle
    May 5, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Scientists found NANO-THERMITE !!! Remember the dancing Israeli ART Students !!!

  10. Bill Cash
    May 5, 2016 at 5:09 pm

    Bush, in the weeks before September 11, pledged to honor the sanctity of the Social Security lockbox except in the event of recession, war, or a national emergency. But after “everything changed” on 9/11, he reportedly gloated to his budget director, Mitch Daniels, “Lucky me–I hit the trifecta!” At the time, this comment (a variation of which is being recycled for laughs at current GOP fundraisers) seemed merely offensive. But in light of revelations that Bush’s August 6 briefing memo was titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.,” Bush’s “luck” and weird prescience are worth more than passing scrutiny.

  11. The Lone Ranger
    May 5, 2016 at 9:38 am

    Netanyahu said the attacks of 9/11 were “good” for israel. For once he was telling the truth. The resistance to the release of the 28 pages implicating the Saudis is due to the fact that the Zelikows of the world know that once that veil is lifted, the next shoe to drop will show the involvement of israel in the planning, support, & implementation of the 9/11 attacks. I imagine there will be a day when the Truth will be revealed not because of any neo-con confession, but because Truth has its own momentum and it also has the inherent power to destroy any impediments to its path of revelation. Imagine bush, cheney, rice, bibi, the neo-cons, the chosen, laying in bed at night wondering when the light of Truth will catch up to their darkness. That day will come to pass and America and the world will know just exactly who the traitors were that brought the 9/11 attacks and the subsequent “war on terror” upon the lives of innocent people. I for one would suggest the “maximum possible punishment” for these murderers be televised live for all the see.

  12. Ronald Showalter
    May 5, 2016 at 9:38 am

    Any discussion of 9/11 that does not mention Israeli involvement is a pathetic, disgusting, embarrassing waste of time; a kindergarten discussion not worthy of thinking adults.

    Seriously, why not just reprint Robert Parry’s slavish and obsequious hack-job on the 9/11 truth movement from 2011 and be done with it as nothing of any value whatsoever is being added to the “conversation” when “Saudi Arabia and the Sorcerer’s 28 Pages” is wasting people’s time and words.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2011/011511.html

    • Innocent Bystander
      May 6, 2016 at 12:00 am

      Mr. Parry’s critique of controlled demolition, pentagon missiles, and similar nonsense is dead on. Those fictional claims just muddy the water. So instead of attention getting focused on say, the five dancing shlomos, who obviously knew the 9/11 attack was coming, we get endless disinformation noise. That works out great for the guilty.

  13. pw
    May 5, 2016 at 9:34 am

    5/5/2016

    Dear Kristen,

    Until “you” bring up these subjects below “you” are not doing enough to bring
    Justice to “your” husbands murder, the American people and all of Humanity.

    Control Demolition Control Demolition Control Demolition Control Demolition World Trade Centers 1,2 and 7 ?

    US Air Force/NORAD US Air Force/NORAD US Air Force/NORAD Order Stand Down ?

    Dancing Israelis on 9-11 Dancing Israelis on 9-11 Dancing Israelis on 9-11 Ryan Dawson Documentary 9-11 and the Cover Up ?

    peace pw

  14. May 5, 2016 at 7:36 am

    On September 23, 2001 the BBC reported that four of the hijack “suspects” – Waleed Al Shehri, Abdulaziz Al Omari, Saeed Alghamdi, and possibly Khalid Al Midhar – were alive, and that FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged “the identity of several of the suicide hijackers is in doubt.” More at http://www.twf.org/News/Y2006/0608-BinLaden.html

  15. alexander
    May 5, 2016 at 6:34 am

    Dear Mrs. Breitweister,

    May I say how sorry I am for your loss.

    There are hundreds of millions of Americans, across the country who are 100% behind you in your quest for justice, so long denied.

    Perhaps the first thing our next President should do, would be to have Mr . Zelikow arrested on charges of “obstruction”, and “accessory after the fact”.

    He should be locked in federal prison and all his assets seized.

    The full 9-11 report, prior to his malevolent and pernicious obfuscations, should be regathered, and presented to a new commission.

    Any and all known associates of Mr. Zelikow, who participated with him in this grotesque miscarriage of justice, should be similarly apprehended …their assets seized by the DOJ.

    And it should continue down the line, perp by perp, until all the layers of the onion are peeled back and all those responsible for the bogus layering and falsifications to begin with, are in federal custody or in prison.

    Not only are you, and all Americans, entitled to the truth..but all those who sought to hide it from you, should be safely ensconced in a federal penitentiary, for the remainder of their days.

    Where they can neither harm nor hide,any longer.

  16. Christopher Condon
    May 4, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    The government should release the missing 28 pages. But it should do more than that. It should start from scratch with a entirely new investigation into the events of September 11 attacks.

  17. SFOMARCO
    May 4, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    9/11 has so many loose ends. Focus on just one: the Dancing/Cheering Israelis. Did this happen? Donald Trump believes so, although he described them as Arabs. {On Monday, during the Indiana primary campaign, (the unhinged?) Trump accused Cruz’s father of having a hand in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.} Trump’s campaign can actually produce something positive; namely, the re-opening of the 9/11 investigation, even in a limited way. Trump’s supporters may well actively back him, as they believe the government only works for the rich and powerful.

  18. John P
    May 3, 2016 at 6:15 pm

    Once again, the towers clearly fell one floor at a time from the impact area down to the ground. The weight, heat and impact of the gathering mass as it fell was too much for the floor below. That produced a lot of compressed air which vented down elevator shafts and stairways to lower floor blowing out windows or weaken structures. The tower hit after the first strike and at a lower level fell first probably because the damaged structure was supporting the most weight above.
    Building 7, was shown in some other films, to be seriously on fire at or near ground floor on one side not visible from the usual camera angles photographing the towers.

  19. Brad Benson
    May 3, 2016 at 4:55 pm

    Phillip Zelikow is covering up for the Mossad, not Saudi Arabia, although their people were certainly also involved.

    • Christopher Condon
      May 4, 2016 at 11:44 pm

      We don’t know what the truth is. All we know is that the current story makes no sense. Let’s have a new investigation.

  20. Antiwar7
    May 3, 2016 at 4:17 pm

    “After all, if the person in charge of torturing KSM wanted to obscure the Saudi role, is it a surprise that KSM would say what his torturer wanted to hear?”

    Exactly. The hidden problem of torture is not that it’s immoral, or that it doesn’t give any useful information that couldn’t be obtained using legal means.

    The hidden problem is this: torture allows the torturers to justify any story they want, because the person being tortured will say anything to make it stop. That’s its true benefit for the powers that be.

    • Joe Wallace
      May 4, 2016 at 3:27 pm

      Antiwar7:

      Precisely. Torture is used to elicit “confessions” to untruths that serve a purpose for the torturer.

  21. Erik
    May 3, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    I recommend that Consortium post no more articles on 9/11 unless there is actual news.

    Every time these comments are taken over by real or pretended conspiracy advocates with no evidence whatsoever. If there was evidence there would be a lot of investigation and no need for speculation.

    As it is these articles just dredge up opinions grounded on anger about other things.All reasoning on these matters is ignored amid angry speculation. This is a waste of time.

    As for the explosive demolition theories, there would be plenty of evidence if it were true. There is none.
    I have repeatedly stated what this much aircraft fuel would do in such a structure, which is what happened. This is totally ignored by these conspiracy people.A demolition would leave plenty of visible evidence of explosions elsewhere, and the collapse would be from that level, not from the airplane impact level. There would be chemical evidence. It would not occur at exactly the same time and place for each building. There would be no cause for a demolition to be linked to a complex airplane plot. Absolutely none of their theories make sense.

    These demolition people are either completely irrational, or they are hackers abusing this website to discredit it.

    It is a mistake to put aimless conspiracy articles here.

    • Mike Harris
      May 4, 2016 at 2:58 pm

      There is plenty of evidence for controlled explosive demolitions of the THREE World Trade Centre towers. There is evidence that the Pentagon was hit by something other than the alleged plane. Whether you believe that evidence sufficient to demolish the official story that young Saudis who couldn’t properly fly Cesna single engine small planes pulled off such dramatic feats of terrorism is up to you. To say there is no evidence is misinformed. Search the evidence by “architects and engineers for 9/11 truth”, “pilots for.9/11 truth”, “firefighters for 9/11 truth”, “scholars for 9/11truth” before making such blanket assertions.

    • Tyler
      May 4, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      Scientists Confirm Explosives Used to Demolish Towers on 9/11 – http://investigate911.org/.

    • JWalters
      May 4, 2016 at 5:38 pm

      Erik, why do you personally think the official 9/11 report OMITTED ALL MENTION of the third building (WTC 7) that collapsed on 9/11?

      With the report now online, you can quickly search and verify this omission. This kind of omission is why a site like Consortium News is necessary.

    • Zachary Smith
      May 5, 2016 at 12:44 am

      As for the explosive demolition theories, there would be plenty of evidence if it were true. There is none.

      That’s where I am too.

    • Dave Brunskill
      May 5, 2016 at 1:57 am

      First, my condolences to the family and friends of the victims of 9/11.

      Second, I take exception to just about everything Erik has written.

      “Every time these comments are taken over by real or pretended conspiracy advocates with no evidence whatsoever. If there was evidence there would be a lot of investigation and no need for speculation.” Are you kidding? Any real evidence gets buried as deeply and as quickly as possible, or just shipped to China. Or maybe there are people like yourself trying to make fantasy appear real. We do not need people like you shutting down discussions on this topic.

      “As for the explosive demolition theories, there would be plenty of evidence if it were true. There is none.” There certainly was evidence of explosives, namely nano thermate, present in the dust. How else do you explain the rivers of molten steel being dredged up weeks after the explosions? What else would be able to provide enough oxygen to make what was being dug up glowing hot like it had just come from a foundry? There are pictures of this. Also, how do you explain the explosions that occurred in the basements of both towers prior to either tower was hit, the people who came up from the basement with their skin blown off? See accounts from NYFD as they entered the lobbies of the Twin Towers. How do you explain the sounds of explosions coming from the building? The official report explains these noises of the floors slamming into each other, but there are not enough of these explosion sounds to tally up to enough floors. However the count does agree with the theory that explosives were loaded onto to every other floor. Last point, I have always wondered how one could accomplish the degree of destruction evidenced during the cleanup of Ground Zero. In the entire cleanup at all three sites, not a whole ‘anything’ was found, not a whole phone, desk, chair, computer, person, nothing. Fire does not do this. What else but explosives could do this?

      “I have repeatedly stated what this much aircraft fuel would do in such a structure, which is what happened.” Please explain what this jet fuel did, exactly, to bring down these 3 buildings? Yes, it is true that jet fuel can burn hot enough to start changing the chemical properties of steel. This would take some time. Much more time than would have been provided by the fuel from these aircraft that hit the WTC towers. The reason for this is that most, if not all, the fuel was consumed in the big fireballs immediately following the impact with the building, as most of the fuel would have been instantly exposed to the flame. The secondary evidence there was not enough heat to change the chemical properties of steel is the colour of the smoke coming from those fires. The smoke was thick black. Black smoke is the colour of a cold fire, not hot enough to change the properties of steel. Third, the WTC buildings were hermetically sealed into 3 sections. Look at the 2 exterior bands that show where the buildings were divided into 3 separate sections. There was no shafts that went from top to bottom. This was done deliberately, so fire would be contained. Any fuel remaining would have been contained in the section of the building involved. Fourth, with the exception of the WTC complex, fire has never brought down a steel frame building anywhere, anytime. Strongest evidence for this would be the Baltimore fire where a steel frame building endured a much bigger fire that 911 for 19 hours, burning itself out. The building remained standing.

      “A demolition would leave plenty of visible evidence of explosions elsewhere, and the collapse would be from that level, not from the airplane impact level.” Visible evidence of explosions? The squibs aren’t enough? How about the 6 storey long piece of steel just casually flipped across the street and imbedded in the MetLife Building? It would take explosive energy to accomplish this. Look closer, the explosions started above the airplane entry point on the South Tower.

      “There would be chemical evidence.” Nano Thermate was found as noted above.

      “It would not occur at exactly the same time and place for each building.” I am not sure what is meant here, although this seems to support the demolition theory, as this is how a demolition would be done.

      “There would be no cause for a demolition to be linked to a complex airplane plot.” Yeah but it was so convenient. And killed a bunch of birds with several big stones. And it fits into why the WTC site was chosen in the first place. Look up New Pearl harbour event 1999. The biggest reason for choosing the WTC site is articulated by the relatively unknown dropping of the Soloman building, WTC 7. This building housed the SEC, and on 9/11, several very large, very damaging investigations died when all the evidence went up in dust.

      “It is a mistake to put aimless conspiracy articles here.” I believe it is a mistake to follow your advice.

      • Tom doss III
        May 6, 2016 at 10:51 pm

        I remember seeing a film of the debris field showing some steel beams cut in a diagonal.

    • Tim N
      May 5, 2016 at 3:15 am

      “There would be chemical evidence.”

      You speak as if the investigating authority, NIST, actually looked for chemical traces of accelerants and found none. This would indeed be a significant point to use against conspiracy theorists.

      But as anyone who has taken time to examine the forensic investigation process that was actually undertaken knows, NIST avoided the physical evidence completely and refused to test for accelerants in the residue, even though such testing is naturally demanded by fire investigation protocols when damage is severe.

      Please get your historical facts straight before announcing your views on what you believe must have happened to the three towers that collapsed, and please do not advance arguments from incredulity that take no account of the facts.

  22. Dennis Rice
    May 3, 2016 at 12:49 pm

    For David Smith; “…explain to us how the Saudi Arabian government directed the attacks.”

    Certainly we are entitled to the truth whichever the way the ball bounces. Yet is seems to me Joe Tedesky above has a point;

    “If 9/11 were an outsider attack, upon unsuspecting innocent Americans, then why is there anything to hide? Shouldn’t all of the information be available? Also, why after fifteen years is there still, “uncorroborated, unvetted information” ? Are we all not on the same side?”

    If there is no facts to hide, then why the reasons for having hidden anything?

  23. Bob Van Noy
    May 3, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    I have spent years reading about and researching the JFK Assassination and the Warren Report and I can totally understand Kristen Breitweiser’s frustration with various apologists regarding the 911 report. Exactly the same frustration is true of the Warren Report because it is a cover-up of the Truth. I see a reply above by Peter Janney; certainly he knows how maddening it is to be a lone researcher of Official Fiction. Alan Dulles was probably the very best at creating these fictions backed up by official lying, creating our current circular dilemma. Until we can have a truly open forum on these official fictions; we will probably never have real justice in our country…

  24. Dennis Rice
    May 3, 2016 at 12:05 pm

    “Tuesday, September 11, 2001, dawned temperate and nearly cloudless in the eastern United States.Millions of men and women readied themselves for work. Some made their way to the Twin Towers,the signature structures of the World Trade Center complex in New York City….For those heading to an airport, weather conditions could not have been better for a safe and pleasant journey….”

    Quoted- pg 1 of “The 9/11 Commission Report.”

    When I first read this paragraph, I thought I might be reading a love novel – it is so pathetically written.

    A question for those who understand flying a plane; How is it that with the circuitous routes the various planes took, and having little or no contact with air traffic control, and having not previously flown over, nor being familiar with, land marks of the terrain traversed, the persons flying these planes still managed to hit their targets?

    Was the flight training these guys had “that good” for such big planes?

    And for all of us, these guys took their flight training in the US, some were known terrorists and ‘still’ our defense agencies did not detect them? Just how long would this type of training be needed to be capable of flying planes like this and with such precision?

    • Realist
      May 3, 2016 at 4:52 pm

      So, you’re saying that someone reprogrammed the autopilot with the necessary vectors to crash the twin towers? Fascinating. That might have been discernable amongst the electronic communications with the planes, yet no mention of the possibility in the 9-11 report?

    • Dave Brunskill
      May 5, 2016 at 12:10 am

      Please visit http://pilotsfor911truth.org. This website will answer your questions and more.

  25. Loopp
    May 3, 2016 at 11:25 am

    Are all those mentioned accessories after the fact

  26. Joe Tedesky
    May 3, 2016 at 9:56 am

    If 9/11 were an outsider attack, upon unsuspecting innocent Americans, then why is there anything to hide? Shouldn’t all of the information be available? Also, why after fifteen years is there still, “uncorroborated, unvetted information” ? Are we all not on the same side?

    • Dennis Rice
      May 3, 2016 at 12:10 pm

      Joe Tedesky, our government officials have their behinds bent over towards Israel, but not for the purposes of insult.

      • SFOMARCO
        May 3, 2016 at 1:18 pm

        After 49 years, Israel is still enjoying a free pass on their attack of the USS Liberty during the 6-Day War.

    • L, Reichard White
      May 6, 2016 at 7:17 pm

      No, we are not on the same side. As noted historian Howard Zinn pointed out, it’s government against us. “If governments told the truth, they wouldn’t last very long.”

  27. Anthony Shaker
    May 3, 2016 at 9:29 am

    There are no words to describe the anguish felt by Kristen and all the other victims of 9-11.

    Still, we have to understand that 9-11’s are taking place all the time now in places of the world where Saudi Arabia has been given free rein, like Syria, together with the other Islamist regime, Turkey. But we also must acknowledge that Wahhabi Saudi Arabia is able to inflict so much damage because their acitivities’s potency is magnified especially by collaboration with Israel.

    And wherever Israel is involved, Congress is not far behind led by a foreign element, AIPAC. The full moral weight of Congress would not add up to a crow’s plume, but its foolishness is quite real and impenetrable.

    I don’t know if any Americans or elements of the American political establishment had anything to do with 9-11. It is possible, some say more than possible given the odd circumstances and coincidences surrounding the terrorists, not to mention the ease with which they planned and carried out their acts. But the day that the American people take cognizance that there are traitors in their midst, specifically traitors in government, is the day they stand to change their destiny. Today, the Congressmen they elect are tripping over each other on how much aid they are duty-bound to extend to Israel.

    “Aid”? After almost 70 years in existence, Israel still requires massive injections of aid, something to the tune of around $30-40 billion a year, if private (mainly American) sources are counted. Israel has deep access to credit that the US government has extended to it for much more financing. In fact, Israel is double-dipping: profiting from loans, making interest on the interest, etc., the only country in the world allowed to do this by the US.

    Where is this money going? The military and the illegal settlements, yes. Economic projects? of course. You see, Israel has no real economy. It could not survive one week without the largesse of the American taxpayer. How could it? It is now clear it could never build an independent economy, given the hard facts of its geography. It is a far-flung, Jewish-only race colony created basically by the British in a bygone age of inter-European rivalry and collective barbarism. Its state ideology, Zionism is a leftover of that age of race supremacists.

    Israel lies smack in the middle of a land that has not seen a significant Jewish presence for two thousand years–since biblical times! Yet, today’s Zionists claim not only to have descended from Jews who lived more than 2,000 years ago, but from “Israelite” tribes who have nothing to do with modern Jews, since there were no Jews then in rhe first place.

    This is the childish Hollywood fantasy that Zionists have shoved down America’s throat and then accuse everyone who disputes it of being “antisemitic.” The money that Americans send to Israel perpetuates the agony of foreign occupation, which will be ended one day.

    However, it has also enriched already very wealthy individuals and institutions in both Israel and the US. They, their money and the money of Saudi Arabia have hamstrung the US into destructive and self-destructive policies that no sane American would countenance if he or she knew what they were doing.

  28. Sally Snyder
    May 3, 2016 at 7:40 am

    Here is an explanation of Wahhabism, the Saudi version of Islam, and why it is so dangerous:

    http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2016/04/wahhabism-backgrounder.html

    What is particularly appalling is, that as Hillary Clinton put it, the United States regards Saudi Arabia as a “close and strategic partner in many of the critical issues facing our world today” given that it is the source of many of these critical issues.

    • Anthony Shaker
      May 3, 2016 at 4:27 pm

      That’s complete nonsense. No one needs to “deflect” from the established fact that Wahhabi Saudi Arabia is the prime mover of terrorism in the Middle East. And it is clear that at least high-ranking Saudi elements were involved in 9-11.

      Moreover, Saudi Arabia has been collaborating with the worst Neocon militarists–led by the Zionist lobby–for no other reason than that it wants to deal a death blow to its neighbor, Iran. Instead of finding success, however, it seems to be digging itself into a deeper and deeper hole. In the opinion of German diplomats in the European Union (EU), Saudi diplomatic skills and strategy can be summarized in one word: nil.

      Moreover, Saudi Arabia has been operating “Islamic” centers, international youth organization and mosques that have been serving as conduits for wild Wahhabi fanatics infiltrating in every country for decades. These elements have caused havoc from Egypt and the Maghreb to Indonesia. Saudis and Qataris are also actively recruiting in Central Asia. A recent report from Tunisia revealed that a Qatari front company pretending to be a recruiting agency had been offering to pay young people to go fight–i.e., as terrorists.

      Saudi Arabia trains its terrorists in sabotage and demolition, skills it acquired from the CIA and now Mossad. Go back a little further and you will notice Lawrence of Arabia in the background, the British spy-saboteur par excellence. He was instrumental in the creation of a strange Wahhabi kingdom with nothing Islamic about it. That kindgom has been led by desert marauders from the wild eastern province of Najd. That’s where the Saudi clan comes from.

      Either Saudi Arabia stop its international terrorist activities or its leadership will find itself physically removed by its own handler, the United States. The international community will have to deal with this regime one way or another. The damage it is causing is spreading everywhere.

  29. Erik
    May 3, 2016 at 7:06 am

    I don’t see the object here. Obviously the KSA government did not sponsor the 9/11 attack and not take credit for it. Obviously the CIA did not do it. So what do you hope to prove?

    If there was a coverup of private parties involved, then of course that is wrong. There might be insufficient evidence to convict them, or even to state a claim fairly. Probably they were investigated if there is any evidence. It seems unlikely that the US would cover up if KSA blocked investigation of private parties for political reasons. So are you arguing that perhaps rich private sponsors bought off investigators?

    If you are arguing that the evidence ought to be public regardless, you should suggest a means. It appears that the 28 pages could be released using numbers instead of names, with the legal reasoning that each would not be charged or further investigated. The same could be true of a bungled investigation or intelligence operation. It seems unlikely that ongoing investigation would be compromised at this point. So you should identify such courses of action to clear the air, rather than appearing to accuse unlikely suspects.

    • May 6, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      Obvious?! Unlikely??
      After a zillion false flags exposed??

  30. Realist
    May 3, 2016 at 2:54 am

    Our government’s narrative on 9-11 is an expedient fiction, like the Warren Commission’s final report. Saudi Arabian money and oil are our most loyal allies, so the leadership of that country gets a pass whatever their involvement may have been. Iran is our convenient punching bag, so the American courts find them liable for damages in the 9-11 attacks. If they could invent the flimsiest of excuses, they’d try to pin it all on Putin. It’s what we do. You’ll find more truths in Grimm’s Fairy Tales.

    • dahoit
      May 3, 2016 at 10:16 am

      When people point out that putting Zelikow in charge was giving the Zionists the key to the henhouse,and the way to protect the obvious Zionist Saudi alliance,wake me up.
      All our roads of destruction emanate from Zion.

      • Albury Smith
        May 3, 2016 at 12:08 pm

        Someone definitely needs to wake you up:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW8_Zbsirdw
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWVC4JBjtEE
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6obQ5naNn0
        From OBL’s 1998 (second) fatwa: “The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies-civilians and military-is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim. This is in accordance with the words of Almighty God, ‘and fight the pagans all together as they fight you all together,’ and ‘fight them until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God [blah, blah, blah…]'”

        • Richard Braverman
          May 6, 2016 at 7:58 pm

          Albury, all that proves is that OBL was either a western stooge or a crackpot. He never had more than twenty people following him in Afghanistan. His myth was much greater than his reality. Besides, to say his words represent the thoughts of 1.5 billion people is like saying what Hillary says represents the thoughts and beliefs of 350 million Americans.

          • Stuart Davies
            May 8, 2016 at 10:17 am

            You got it right the first shot there, Richard – OBL was a western stooge – or more accurately, a CIA asset. We know this from various points of evidence, but one outstanding source is the testimony of Sibel Edmonds, the former FBI translator who blew the whistle on this subject years ago: http://www.globalresearch.ca/three-months-after-911-u-s-and-nato-worked-with-bin-laden-and-his-top-lieutenant-report/5333767

            I see this entire “secret 28 page” controversy as a deliberately planted smokescreen intended to reinforce the central falsehood in the deep state’s 9/11 narrative, i.e., the Radical Muslim Bogeymen (RMB) hijackers dunnit. We know from an ENDLESS mountain of evidence that this whole component of their story is impossible, starting with the fact that the pentagon wasn’t even struck by a plane, let alone a commercial jet flown in an impossible flight path by an inexperienced pilot.

            The head fake on the Saudi connection to 9/11 began on 9/12, when the news was allowed to “leak” that the ONLY individuals permitted to fly during the shut down of American air space were members of the bin Laden Family departing the US – as if they wouldn’t have been able to keep that one under wraps if they wanted to. As “Albury” points out above, the role of ObL and the other mysterious members of the bin Laden family all along has been to establish Saudi connections to the Radical Muslim Bogeymen that the world was meant to believe had committed this horrific act of terrorism.

      • deschutes
        May 3, 2016 at 2:44 pm

        You’re so right, I could not agree more. Not sure if there was a Zionist – Saudi alliance though. Possibly the Saudis were used as useful idiots by the Zionist intelligence agencies, who are masters at setting up Arabs to be ‘terrorists’ or masquerading as ‘Arab terrorist’, this is an Israeli specialty done countless times over the decades of the Arab-Israeli conflict. Another interesting thing Zionists are up to these days: they create multiple fake identities at progressive news websites like Common Dreams, then have these identities post the most vile, hateful anti-semitic comments you can imagine. The aim: to drive away donors from progressive websites, as well as to give the impression that progressive websites are rife with anti-semitic Jew haters. To read about how Common Dreams owner Craig Brown busted this guy google ‘Common Dreams website traps Hasbara troll spewing anti-Semitism’. Its a real eye opener.

        • Naysayer
          May 6, 2016 at 11:04 am

          Remember the USS Liberty?

      • richard vajs
        May 5, 2016 at 8:28 am

        This is not accidental – enough information is released to put out the red herring that Saudi Arabia is solely culpable, but not enough to reveal the guilt of Israel in the 9-11 attack. There will never be any information regarding the role of the “Dancing Israelis” caught red-handed filming and celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers. Any such information will always be treated as more sensitive than Top Secret.

      • William
        May 5, 2016 at 6:45 pm

        I think that dahoit is perfectly correct. Pointing to the Saudis is a diversion, nothing more. And as for Lee Hamilton, he is, and always has been, a political hack always ready to do the bidding of his superiors. There was a time about thirty years ago or more that I naively took Mr. Hamilton at his word. In the decades since, I along with many others have learned, among other things, that Mr. Hamilton is a politician, that is to say, a pathological liar and a sociopath with an absolute inability to feel shame.
        He is a disgrace, but he will never recognize that because he is incapable of it.

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