With the war on Iran stuck in low-intensity conflict, new focus is on the U.S.-Israel relationship. Everyone has a theory, but it’s perhaps more complex than it looks. This week we try to unravel it. Watch the replay.
Guests: Peter Kuznick, historian at American University in Washington and author with Oliver Stone of The Untold History of the United States; and Ray McGovern, former C.I.A. Soviet and Russia analyst and briefer of presidents. Host: Joe Lauria. Producer: Cathy Vogan.
With the war on Iran stuck in low-intensity conflict, new focus has been put on the U.S.-Israel relationship. Everyone has a theory, but it’s perhaps more complex than it looks. Some say Israel is just an aircraft carrier in the Middle East taking orders from Washington.
Others say Israel is the tail wagging the American dog, telling the U.S. what to do. Israel defenders say it is an anti-semitic myth to talk about an influential lobby in the United States, while others may go overboard into actual anti-semitic territory to say Jews control every aspect of American finance, politics and culture.
So who is right?
Maybe the U.S.- Israel relationship is really a two-way street, with each side having its way sometimes.
In the past week or so we’ve seen high profile stories of the threat of Israeli spying on America, and leaks of frank exchanges between Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu, with Trump supposedly laying down the law. Meanwhile, Netanyahu responds to criticism at home of being subordinate to the U.S. by saying every Israeli prime minister has the duty to say no to an American president.
Israel seems to be driven by a mindset that the world is always ready to destroy the Jews, that a new Holocaust can begin at any minute, and it’s kill them before they kill us. Meanwhile Israel is building a regional empire by slaughtering huge numbers of innocent people with the approval of the United States.
Trump says the U.S. will sign a peace deal with Israel imminently. Assuming he’s not bluffing this time, will Israel be able to sabotage it? It’s been trying by continuing to attack Lebanon, which Iran demands must be part of the deal.
And on Ukraine there’s been a bombshell development as evidence of U.S. biolabs is revealed.
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Near the beginning of the video, Kuznik spreads the lie that Hamas committed atrocities. That caused one of my comrads to turn off the video.
Unwise, knee-jerk decision as an important discussion followed.
S C O R E! Peter Kuznick is right on the money, “We don’t know what they’ve agreed on!”
… BUT, the Devil, we know, the butchers, the bankers, the bomb-makers are “working tirelessly” w/an “Open” Strait To Israel, a Never-Ending $upply Chain, i.e., Operation, “Whatever It Takes.” Money. WMD’s. Boots on the land, air & sea. A BFF in the WH, NO Worries! Trump’s-Vance’s, Inc., jamm is a hand-me-down, hands-on strategy, “Use. Abuse. Abandon.” ITSA “Kill, first. Think, later” foreign & domestic policy, i.e., “We” negotiate w/bombs!”
Hence, NEEDED: “Diplomatic Solutions,” the likes rock’n through “BRICS, SCO’s, the Global South.” IMO, “Diplomatic Solutions” is Veteran Intelligence Professionals’ For Sanity, VIPS’, JAMM!!! No offense; but, FOR f/EVER!!! An entire Board of Intelligence w/heart & bones.
IMO, ENOUGH! w/Ray McGovern “briefing” POTUSES. “To serve does not prevent one from being served, one day.” If, not NOW; THEN, 2028! Let’s get ready to rumble, “Ray McGovern & VIPS for President, 2028.” We, the people, have a right to self-defense & a right to a President w/a deep bench that is all about an of, by & for the people universe!!!
TY, Gentlemen! Onward & Upwards!
Most likely the US factor in the 1953 coup in Iran was for
military bases near the USSR for U-2 spy missions among others.
The based on an oil embargo we began to weaponize religious force against communism in Afghanistan and we have hopes for it in Iran that they weren’t buying but they did deal for holding hostages for Reagan or Bush depending on a nomination and cursed the US with a Reagan era still infecting our society in culture war of all kinds. Knowledge of which may has cost GHWB as second term.
His first term came after the 7/3/88 election year downing of an Iranian commercial airline si liar to a Tonken Gulf episode in 1964 election year.
On this report’s last “bombshell”: Gabbard’s failure to release any of the financial records of these biolabs for public scrutiny (which she has no excuse not to do, given that none of it appears to have been classified) undermines her claims that something dark and sinister was going on here. These biolabs were created by Congress with the 1991 Nunn-Lugar program, ostensibly to track down and neutralize germ warfare agents developed during the cold war. There’s no good excuse for their continued existence 20 years later, but I think bureaucratic incompetence is the most likely explanation for that. Certainly, there’s plenty of it in the intelligence and defense communities — and Gabbard herself is a good example, ever bit as much as Jen Psaki.
100%! “Gabbard’s failure to release any of the financial records of these biolabs for public scrutiny (which she has no excuse not to do, given that none of it appears to have been classified) undermines her claims that something dark and sinister was going on here.” ThisOldMan. “Well said. TY, [TOM]”
Basically, all after action reviews, via “X”, MSM, CNN, local papers, say’n the muckity-mucks are f/livid! The Word Is, “Tulsi Gabbard sparks fury by going all in on Ukraine biolabs theory: ‘Loyal to the end. To Putin’.”
Concluding, imo, the “something dark and sinister was going on here,” is the DNI Tulsi “Dancing Queen” Gabbard gone “Drama Queen”, i.e., “Today, I’m releasing never before seen intelligence revealing new evidence of past US government funding for more than 120 biolabs in over 30 countries, including Ukraine.” TULSI GABBARD, Outgoing Director of National Intelligence. Is it really a NEW revelation, “US Government Funded BioLabs?”
Allegedly, Tulsi Gabbard’s rock’n Receipts. Blah, blah, blah. Yada. Yada. Nada!!! W/one (1) exception, regarding Ukraine’s BioLabs, ‘Just So You Know’, “This “$ite” uses “Cookies.” Baker-N-Chief, Victoria Nuland, $.O.$. “Your choice” is to Accept or Decline.
One thing is for certain… even if an agreement is agreed to and signed, the US and Israel cannot be trusted to uphold it… and when it is broken, the Western media will spin it, that Iran broke the agreement.
Furthermore, imo, the US (and Israel) have no intention of upholding and respecting a peace agreement.
The movers and shakers within the US government are buying time to build up their retaliatory missiles and defensive weaponry to render Iranian offensive weapons obsolete.
The Iranians are not stupid… they know this, and will continue to modernise their military.
So the question is, when will all this madness end?
I very much enjoyed Peter Kuznich’s views and comments.
Please bring him back!
The American/Zionist empire is terminally ill, and fascist elements within, are taking control in the West, notably Britain and the U.S.
To stop the cancer from spreading, the Zionist’s next target will be the forcible control of Greenland and the Canadian Arctic Archipelago.
However, it’s not sure which will collapse first, the American Empire or the biosphere.
I suspect the biosphere will collapse first, and when it does, there won’t be much left for anyone, just an increasingly uninhabitable planet.
Thoughts….
It’s hard to believe that the US doesn’t hold the Israel nuclear launch codes – like they do for UK. Consequently Israel’s nuke threat on Iran is compromised.
But Trump is compromised by Israel holding Epstein videos.
So….
Will US military allow Trump to safeguard his sociopathy by gifting Israel the opportunity to annihilate Iran?
QED:
By nuking Iran the Israel project is terminated
If Israel attempts to annihilate Iran with nuclear strike, they will be assuring their own destruction.
Mr. Kuznick is correct, Iran will target the Israeli Nuclear site Dimona with a series of hypersonic missiles rendering a large portion of Israel uninhabitable for hundreds of years.
There is something much worse, Iran could do, and that is to destroy most if not all of Israil’s desalination plants. Just think of the panic. Israil as a country will be gone in days.
It seems rather unrealistic to expect a crazed society of mass murdering, raping, torturing monsters who have been perpetrating their crimes with impunity on an enormous scale for 75 years to behave as civilized human beings.
Israel is a Stanford prison experiment gone awry that should have been halted 75 years ago and by now has so thoroughly warped the minds of Jewish Israelis it seems as impossible to reverse their insanity as to reverse years of damage to a methamphetamine addict’s brain.
I love the music that preempts this. Wish I knew the artist.
Me too. I’ve been meaning to ask about that. Lovely piano and saxaphone.
Mr. Lauria says see you next week at 8 o’clock. But after listening to this episode, i wonder if we’ll still be here!!!!
The American media has got your attention right where they want it. It is a Trump vs Netanyahu conflict. This from the American propaganda machine that always wants to make everything about individuals. This in turn relates to Americans being trained by Hollywood to think in terms of ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’.
If both Trump and Netanyahu were to both to immediately depart the stage, nothing would change. The relationship between the two nations has been without change for decades. This is bi-partisan. The personalities don’t matter. Israel can continue their genocide in Gaza and their scorched earth in Lebanon because they have the support of America’s corporations and oligarchs. It is only the ordinary people that object, and in America, they do not count. Nothing short of an American Democracy Movement will change this.
But right now the players are Trump and Netanyahu and their interplay cannot be ignored.
Given Netanyahu is the nearest thing to Hitler today—committing genocide and believing they are the chosen of God–that makes our policies of supplying Israel all its needs, plus doing its policy should be understood better than it is. We can’t make democratic decisions if we have little viable information to go by.
Trump is the closest thing to a genuine solipsist—a human being so deranged he believes only he is an actual human being.
Point is Trump is incapable of feeling, cognitively believing in human beings, and thus is incapable of being a traditional ZioNazi, he just takes vicarious delight in rape of children, slaughter, torture, Genocide, in which he actively collaborates.
But I do think Trump is being coerced by israeli blackmail operations.
Trump would collaborate in nuclear war, if this were necessary to stop disclosure of his sick crimes.
Clarence Darrow wrote, “I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.”
Trump’s health is bad, and he is not long for this world.
israel movement knows this.
So, israel is using Trump’s last months of life to codify in U.S. federal law the abdication of sovereign America.
The U.S. Senate is considering a provision (Section 622) in the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2027 that would require the expansion of U.S. intelligence sharing with Israel. Introduced by Senator Tom Cotton, the bill strips future presidents of the authority to suspend or reduce this sharing without identifying a specific national security concern and reporting to Congress.
Will the passage of the U.S. Senates (Section 622) in the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2027; requiring the expansion of U.S. intelligence sharing with Israel also introduce a wholly new phase of “reporting to Congress” in procedural American democracy?
And section 224 of the NDAA for fiscal year 2027 to implement the US and israeli militaries integration.
I worry that Trump is being blackmailed by Netanyahu thanks to the Mossad’s Epstein/Maxwell honey pot operation. That would explain why Trump keeps giving Israel what it wants, including invading Iran. If they have a video or two of Trump with minors, then Israel can pretty much continue with its genocide to Gaza, and scorched earth on Lebanon.
Ladies & Gentlemen,
Indeed, “Stand-Up & Make Some Noise!” The World says, “give a little bit, give a little bit of your love, to me.” Inphkndeed, RESIST Zionism. TY!!!
… *“The end result in the Zionists’ [GRAND] $cheme, is the establishment of a global empire, ruled fm America, The New Jerusalem.
While the “real” Jerusalem” in the occupied land of Palestine may function as the spiritual capital of international Zionism, AMERICA will provide the money, arms, young men & women who will fight & die to make the world safe for Zionist wealth & supremacy, all in the name of “Americanism” which is now the great Jewish mask.
“Thus, in the end, the thesis put forth in “The New Jerusalem”- that the Zionists have laid claim to America as their New Jerusalem – is not some horrific, hate-filled, “anti-Jewish conspiracy theory. In fact, according to the Zionists themselves, the concept that America is The New Jerusalem is the very foundation of Zionism in the 21st Century.
That conclusion is inescapable.” The ask is “what Americans & others, worldwide, intend to do about it?” Michael Collins Piper, Author, *“Zionist Power In America-The New Jerusalem,” first published February, 2005 by American Free Press, Washington, D.C.
TY. “Keep It Lit!”