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Comment on The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution by Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:19:11 +0000

I’m one of the many who am popping in from Tom Woods’ video. I read the article, and watched Tom’s video, and I’ll just say this:

To the extent that you’re dismantling non-intellectual, Obama-reactionist “conservatives” that are voting for Santorum and still hate gays and minorities and would like to use the states as a way to supercede federal laws that protect their rights, I say “hurray.”

To the extent that you think you are right in your understanding of the Constitution’s creation, James Madison’s positions, the founding of the nation, the nature of social contracts vs the principles of liberty, I defer to Tom Woods’ video.

Let’s keep the discourse civil and not fall back on simple disparaging remarks. I saw it in the Feb 15 comments from pro-Parry commenters and I see it in the Feb 23 comments from pro-Woods commenters, and I’m disappointed in both. Fact: most of us aren’t drinking Kool-Aid. We’re just trying to figure out how to best bring about a decent civil society.

Patrick

Comment on Onward-Marching Christian Soldiers by Marisol

Marisol — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:59:14 +0000

A note of caution — although you assure us that “opinions from Whitehead’s book also were not pulled out of context,” you then go on to cite Chip Berlet as your source, and Berlet’s very claim to fame is his knack for “pulling opinions out of context.”

Comment on The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution by EndtheFed

EndtheFed — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:57:09 +0000

Just for the record, the civil liberty, freedom loving, realists of today are not neo-con, Fox watching, moral majority robots as so many of the responders on here seem to think. You read one article and suddenly you’re all experts, but you know there is always another side. And here’s one from historian and best selling author of 11 books, youtube Leftist Tries to Take Down Ron Paul on Constitution (Tom Woods), always good to get a different perspective before you jump on the bandwagon.

Comment on Need to Talk Sense to Netanyahu by Michael Lange

Michael Lange — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:27:33 +0000

I think we should speak of the right wing “pro whatever Israel wants is good for the United States no matter how right-wing fascist a government Israel has” media and not the “jewish” media. Indeed the intimidation Israel and its American supporters have managed to instill on the American political apparatus is truly a national catastophe. Unfortunately most non-jewish Americans are AFRAID to speak out. Indeed almost all serious critics of Israel’s apartheid state and its ethnic cleansing during the Nakhba and continuing to this day have been Jewish starting with our own Max Blumenthal, Richard falk, Nathan Finkelstein etc as well as very courageous Israelis both academics like Shlomo Sand, Neve Gordon, Uri Avnery,and Ilan Pappe as well as artists such as Gilad Atzmon whose “The wandering Who?” is a real eyeopener on what goes on inside Israel (hues of the Hitler Youth);just to mention a few.
Is there some way this courageous letter by the Veterans can initiate an American movement to liberate the American foreign policy establishment from its subservience to the pro-Israel lobby? I think that BDS is a good international movement to bring attention to the plight of the Palestinians. However this letter by the Veterans should be the shot that sets off a movement to liberate our foreign policy from the control of a foreign power and the Americans who treasonously support Israel above America’s national interests. Even if the Imperial “full spectrum dominance” is indeed the modus operandi of the US, this policy can be done intelligently or stupidly. It clearly should not be run by a foreign power.
Can we collect signatures to support this letter?

Comment on Need to Talk Sense to Netanyahu by bobzz

bobzz — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:10:07 +0000

In part, Christian Zionism is devoted to Israel because the return of Christ is contingent Israel’s return to the land (or so they think), and whoever blesses the children of Abraham (Isaac’s children, of course, not Ishmael’s) will be blessed. Craig Unger tells the story of Clinton’s having Netanyahu over a barrel and as discussions proceeded, an aid whispered something in Clinton’s ear. He turned red and abruptly left a baffled Netanyahu (damage control beckoned). Shortly after, Netanyahu would tell Jerry Falwell about it, joking that Monica Lewinski had saved Israel. Falwell told him not to worry. Had Clinton pressured him, he would have called on 200,000 evangelical ministers and their congregation to pressure Clinton to leave him alone. Yes, and about the assassination plot, one only has to recall the recent suggestion that Obama be assassinated for his anti-Jewish policies. The guy apologized, but what was he thinking in the first place? If a politician that posed a serious threat to Israel was assassinated, we would sweep it under the rug as soon as we learned Israel did it. We swept the Lavon and the USS Liberty affairs under the rug. Truly, the tail wags the dog and Christian Zionism is, not all, but a huge part of Israel’s influence.

Comment on The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution by Santorum Abuses ‘E Pluribus Unum’ | Consortiumnews

Santorum Abuses ‘E Pluribus Unum’ | Consortiumnews — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:05:46 +0000

[...] Similarly, the Right has snatched a few quotes out of context to transform James Madison and other drafters of the Constitution into people who opposed a strong central government and favored a system of states rights, when the historical reality is nearly the opposite: the framers scrapped the Articles of Confederation because that original governing structure hamstrung the new nation with a weak central government dominated by “independent” states. [For details, see Consortiumnews.com’s “The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution.”] [...]

Comment on The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution by Mike

Mike — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:13:14 +0000

“Today’s Right trumpets this essay and especially Madison’s summation – that “the powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite” – but the Right ignores what Madison was trying to accomplish with his essay. He was trying to defuse the opposition”

Mr. Perry, read what you have written… Even were I to agree with your assessment, his words matter more than his intentions. Are you claiming that he lied to them?

Your interpretation is based not on actual history, but instead on making history justify all the encroachments on liberty that ypu find desirable.

Comment on Need to Talk Sense to Netanyahu by American Aware

American Aware — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:27:55 +0000

I’m sure if Obama even came anywhere close to saying “SHUT UP” to Israel, they would see to it that he’d be minus one or both daughters, and probably his wife too. And I even suspect these threats last a lifetime, beyond presidency, otherwise former Presidents wouldn’t hesitate to come out and complain.

Comment on The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution by Gilbert Peralta

Gilbert Peralta — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:16:22 +0000

lol, what a schumck. Parry needs to go back to school. Thankfully Dr. Tom Woods sets him straight. tomwoods.com/blog/leftist-tries-to-take-down-ron-paul-on-constitution/

Nice try Parry, but you have a leftist view that was clearly formed by a late 2oth century brainwashing public education system. You like many Americans suffer from Stockholm syndrome.

Comment on The Right’s Inside-Out Constitution by JRT

JRT — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:41:20 +0000

Thomas Woods responded to this article in this video:
http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/leftist-tries-to-take-down-ron-paul-on-constitution/

So check it out!